How Gay-Friendly Is FX? Not VeryIt's Always Sunny, if Not Very Gay, in Philadelphia The very first episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, a half-hour comedy that debuted in 2005, deals with the show's setting, an Irish bar, being transformed into a gay bar to improve revenue. In order to get the bar changed back, two characters get another male character drunk and convince him he had gay sex while blacked out. Naturally, he's so horrified that he immediately de-gays the bar again. Further episodes deal with a character falling for a transsexual as well as a false accusation of child molestation. This show is a twisted version of Cheers complete with swearing, and is meant to be politically incorrect. Dirt's Gay Dirt
The sexually confused Leo falls for Jack Dawson (Grant Show), a closeted, married action movie star, but later allows himself to be manipulated by Lucy into outing his lover. Angry with his sister, Leo leaves only to be revealed later as the person stalking and terrorizing Lucy. Despite the negative portrayal of both of Dirt's gay male characters, Seomin argues their presence is a good thing. "Frankly, on a show like Dirt and what it deals with, if we didn't do [this] story, we would have done a disservice," he said. "This happens. Hollywood on screen, it's still one of the last bastions — it's where out gays are still lacking … movie screens and in the locker room." The Riches Is Rich With Tolerance This hour-long comedy-drama hybrid, having just finished its first season, is about a family of "Travellers" (modern Irish-descended nomads) who hijack a dead family's opulent suburban lifestyle. Star Eddie Izzard identifies in life as a straight transvestite, and coincidentally the youngest son of the family in the show is a transvestite as well. In one subplot, the husband of a long-married neighbor couple is revealed to be a closeted gay man, and their situation is treated with a minimum of finger-pointing. Another episode dealt with the rights of a lesbian couple and their child to buy property in a conservative community. The point was clearly made that homophobia — although entirely legal — is wrong. 30 Days Gets It Right
30 Days' fourth episode, "Straight Man in a Gay World," placed Ryan, a 24 year-old Christian from Michigan, in San Francisco, where he lived for a month with Ed, a gay man. By the end of the month, Ryan's views on homosexuality had grown considerably more positive. The Verdict FX has a reputation for edgy, violent shows aimed at a younger, male audience which Seomin says is a factor. "Rescue Me, Over There, Thief, The Shield … these are overwhelmingly male shows," he said. "By putting gay and lesbian characters and story lines on them … there's still, and it's a sad fact, such homophobia in this country, we could easily be turning off viewers. The fact that we're putting these on, we're taking a huge risk." Seomin also feels that these characters' actions need to be looked at within a context, not as standalone acts. "Positive and negative, I don't think that's fair," he argued. "Everything needs to be taken in context." Indeed, FX characters are usually complicated and often deeply flawed, which does make for good television. As any good writer will say, conflict is drama, and saintly characters are usually boring. Much like the murderous yet sympathetic Soprano patriarch Tony Soprano, The Shield's Vic Mackey (Michael Chiklis) is a cop-murdering liar, but audiences are nonetheless asked to pity and even root for him — and they often do (likewise Rescue Me's troubled lead Tommy Gavin, played by Denis Leary). But looking back over FX's track record, it's hard to find much for gay viewers to root for, and for gay men, the pickings are especially slim. The Shield gave us a closet case who appears to have undergone successful reparative therapy to cure his "gayness," which moves beyond "complicated" to "insulting." Rescue Me's Probie can't seem to figure out who he is, and his "gay" relationship was rarely little more than violent and abusive. (Additionally, two female characters on Rescue Me were involved with women, only to eventually return to heterosexuality.) Nip/Tuck's highest profile gay or bisexual male turned out to be a serial killer, and while the show is to be commended for an interesting exploration of love between straight men, it was, in the end, about straight men. And while Dirt's bisexual character wasn't a killer, he did terrorize his own sister. Secondary characters fare somewhat better on the network. The chief's gay son on Rescue Me and the gay neighbor on The Riches were both portrayed sympathetically, but they are only secondary characters (if that) and only appeared briefly. It's doubtful they made much of an impression on viewers. None of these characters are in and of themselves necessarily a problem. Gay people are every bit as complicated as their straight counterparts, often behaving in selfish, stupid and even murderous ways. Indeed, gay people want to see the whole range of gay life when we turn on our television. But that is where FX falls short. To balance out the self-hatred of Julien Lowe, there needs to be a Kevin Walker (played by Matthew Rhys on ABC's Brothers & Sisters), himself a complicated character. And if FX is content to show the sexual confusion of someone like Probie, then why can't there also be a well-adjusted character like The Class' Kyle Lendo (Sean Maguire)? Obviously, no one expects FX (or any network) to institute a quota for positive gay characters, but diversity means more than just having gay characters. It means having all sorts of gay characters — good and bad, heroes and villains — who are organic to the shows and not used for shock value or as jokes, something FX resorts to far too often. If FX does not want to be labeled as unfriendly toward gays, they need someone to rescue them before it's too late. Submitted by on Wed, 2007-06-13 20:36. |
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A recent addition to FX's lineup, Dirt is a "salacious prime-time soap" set in the underbelly of Hollywood. The show received mostly negative reviews due to its sensational plots, including one involving Leo Spiller (Will McCormack), the bisexual brother of the show's main character, tabloid editor Lucy Spiller (producer Courteney Cox). 

Those quotes are quite bizarre
Excellent article & overview of problematic FX
They really need to understand just how insulting their portrayals have been, on the average. And as Jon's great post highlights, the excuses given to the shameful portrayals simply don't hold water.
Personally I consider Rescue Me & its creators as deeply homophobic as anything on television today--and I am more than sophisticated enough to understand that homophobia still rules the typical firehouse. There are plenty of ways to portray that which don't involve blaming the victims and adding additional hatred to the fire. These producers and writers smear us openly use homophobia as a selling point for the show.
If FX as a whole is problematic, Rescue Me is downright hateful and bigotted. And I don't mean its characters.
Something else
Sorry...
I don't think Sunny in Philadelphia belongs on this list. It is similar to Southpark in that nothing is held sacred. They make fun of everybody, the homeless, the elderly, the poor, but i think that its ok because we know all the characters are unredeemable a**holes. It is just funny.
I don't watch any of the other shows except the Riches (I cannot get enough Minnie Driver - she is fabulous as Dahlia) These shows, Rescue Me, Nip/Tuck, etc., are supposed to be cutting edge dramas, but I just find them over the edge and mostly incomprehensible. Watching the second season of Nip/Tuck made me feel like I wasted hours of my life - like i could have been doing laundry instead.
it is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice
I agree...
The general point of Always Sunny in Philadelphia is that these characters are incredibly shallow, selfish and self-involved. The guys determine their stance on abortion by which side has hotter women at the protest, when one of their former teachers is accused of child molestation Mac can only think about how he wasn't good-looking enough to be a victim. For the most part, the humor is about how these characters' prejudices make them pitiful, usually ending in some karmic payback.
I really liked the episode where Mac dates a transsexual because I never felt like I should be laughing at her, either I was laughing at Mac's vanity overpowering his homophobia or the rest of the gang's ignorance in how they reacted to her.
Agreed, as well, about The Riches. It's so nice seeing Minnie Driver in a role worthy of her talent.
What do you expect from a
What do you expect from a network owned by the Antichrist, Rupert Murdoch?
But what is more sad is a gay man selling out. For Seomin to say that we should be grateful b/c they took a "huge risk" to have any gay characters at all is disingenuous. How "risky" is it to have despicable gay characters for the other characters & the shows' target audience (straight white guys with delusions of machismo) to despise?
In addition, Seomin blames the poor treatment these gay characters encounter are due to "reality." As I stated in another thread, that may be so, but you don't have to make the abusers the heroes. Plus, who's to say there aren't tolerant straight firefighters, police officers, etc.?
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We should've specifically quoted some of the critics
Is This THAT Scott Seomin?
Uhhhh... is this the same Scott Seomin who worked for GLAAD a few years ago? Maybe it's just a coincidence and there's more than one Scott Seomin who is openly gay and works as a publicist. However, if this is the SAME Scott Seomin, then, wow, has he ever changed his tune, and in a very short period of time.
You might remember GLAAD's Scott Seomin as the man at the forefront of extremely forceful criticism of Eminem. He was also a vocal critic of what he saw as homophobic content in movies like Kevin Smith's "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back." Keep in mind, this was just a few years ago, and Seomin was definitely NOT arguing "it's all just context" and "these are complicated characters" back then. He was blunt about calling homophobia and negative images of gays for what they were, and took a lot of flack for it at the time. The Scott Seomin in the above article, though, the one who works for FX, strangely enough, echoes precisely Eminem's supporters' response to the GLAAD Scott Seomin's criticism: hey, it's all about "context" and Eminem's just play-acting as these complicated characters. Seomin sure didn't seem to buy those kinds of arguments back then.
If this is the same Scott Seomin, then to see him pulling out this same style of defense of the kind of thing he used to stand so bluntly against is, to say the least, enough to make your head spin. Who knows, maybe it's true that some people become the very thing they used to oppose? Or, if we're feeling more cynical, maybe money changes everything? The best option here is that this is just an odd coincidence and there's more than one Scott Seomin.
Isn't Seomin also the guy who
defended that awful Boat Trip movie?
Many gays sell out when they get into Hollywood's power circle.This was apparently no exception.