Gay-themed ads: The good, the bad, and the WTF?Happy gay kids jumping rope! Levi's scores again with this exuberant ad about having the strength to go on after difficult times. We love happy endings, so we're giving this ad four out of five Levi's.
Would we buy what it's selling? We don't do much happy jump roping anymore, but it's good to know that Levi's are the jeans to buy if we ever get a hankering. And finally, we present the ultimate in WTF! ads ... American Hot Gym American Hot Gym is based in Buenos Aries, Argentina and bills itself as a "different gym", which is code for "a gay gym". Apparently, patrons can experience state-of-the-art exercise equipment, a juice bar, ... and being raped in the shower? Because we simply don't know what to make of this, we have to give it our WTF! Championship Award.
Would we buy what it's selling? We'll stick with our thighmaster and reruns of OZ. These are just a few examples of some of the best, worst, and most outrageous ads out there. For more examples like these, check out GLAAD's Commercial Closet. Submitted by on Wed, 2009-03-11 21:41. |
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Guiness/"different gym"
I loved the first 80% of the Guinness ad, it was great. They should run it without the last fifth, it was a really nice ad, except for the end. Reminded me of Bedrooms and Hallways(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0126810/). I really liked most of the movie but the end killed it for me however.
The "different" gym was so bad. I mean how many drop the soap jokes can one person endure? For a gay gym to run the ad none the less should have earned it at least 1 snicker.
Loved'em
Guiness
Since sometimes commercials are culturally specific, I'd be interested to know if there was any explaination from Guiness regarding the "not everything in black and white makes sense" statement.
The commercial is so incredibly sweet and lovely overall that I find it hard to believe that it is actually trying to say that "being gay" doesn't make sense.
Maybe I'm in denial.
But if that was the goal, then whats the point of making such a statement about how some Men are slobs even when they are Gay and there's always someone who has to pick up after one of them and you have to "stand by" them anyway?
Also, the quoted statement about how men and women shouldn't live together because they are such different "animals" seems to say the opposite of "gay doesn't make sense".
So to me, it's not clearly offensive, just very confusing.
Has anyone ever interviewed anyone from Guiness about it?
I guess I'm thinking back to how all the Americans missed the whole commentary about American men being made by the Pepsi Max UK commercial which the Brits seem to take for granted as being obvious.
"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." (Dorothy Parker)
Actually, It makes Perfect Sense
The point of the commercial was that it was contradicting itself. First of all, the alcoholic drink known as Guinness, in real life, looks black, so with the foam on top, the drink is "black and white". With this information...
The commercial starts with the brunnette being a very messy guy living with a blonde neat-freak, shall we say. The quote comes up "Men and women aren't meant to live together, two different animals", etc. They contradict themselves. A man and a woman are not living together in this commercial.
Further along in the commercial, we see they are actually a loving gay couple. The new statement is "Not everything in black and white makes sense." To me this has three meanings, and thus, three contradictions. One, Guinness is black and white and it "makes sense" to those who like to drink it. Two, even though the relationship is between a neat-freak and a messy person, it "makes sense" to them because they are in love. Thirdly, the couple are literally in black and white (versus a color commercial), and even though they are gay, they are just like everybody else, and they "make sense" to each other. Three contradictions.
While some might say they don't like the commercial, don't argue that it's because of the last 5 seconds. Guinness knew what they were doing, it just takes some thinking on the viewer's part.
Kitty
Well That Was My Point
I understand that the point of the spot is that it contradicts itself several times (as I indicated above) and I love that aspect of the commercial and I thought it was sweet and lovely.
I don't think the statement about "black and white" ruined it at all.
But obviously it rubbed folks the wrong way here, in this context.
It don't think its a question of the author above not "thinking" about it but it is more about frame of reference.
US and other viewers here on A.E. did not get the implication you've indicated and that's why I asked if anyone had actually spoken to Guiness to get a better understanding of the intent of the piece.
Not everone was clear about the meaning (despite how carefully you've articulated it) and the "black and white" phrase created the most discomfort so the commercial obviously doesn't work for every audience.
For better or for worse folks didn't immediately get the many layers of meaning you've ascribed to the commercial which I think speaks to my question about cultural context.
I think some commercials just immediately make more sense (or convey a particular meaning) to folks in a particular cultural context and are less clear when viewerd by folks outside of that cultural context.
The point of my initial post was about giving the benefit of the doubt to the commercial because I felt and still feel that assuming the statement was meant to be homobobic doesn't really make sense given the overall message of the commercial.
"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." (Dorothy Parker)
Well, when you put it that way...
I could see how one would be asking WTF if they didn't "get" the black & white reference. I guess I'm just a little ruffled that SNICKS didn't do two seconds of research to understand what was trying to be sold, more than anything. No harm, no foul.
BTW, SNICKS, this is still an A+ article!! It was interesting and informative, though I didn't like the way you handled the Guinness ad, obviously.
Kitty
Another Positive View
I actually saw it differently, though no less positive. Still riffing on the "Guinness is black and white" bit, which I admittedly did get, I saw the "not everything in black in white" to refer to things in print, sometimes taken as nigh-gospel. (Even when it's He Who Must Not Be Named Here!) I see the whole thing being in black-and-white as something of a tribute/throwback to Diana Dors's earlier movies, as would (I suppose) the blond househusband, but that part has nothing to do with "making sense". The men/women quote itself--obviously in print at one point--doesn't necessarily make sense, and is shown to make less sense with two very different men.
The commercial as a whole might have been more approachable to US audiences if (a) we knew the Guinness-black/white connection (though the commerical itself helps that, with the pint at the end), and (b) we knew who Diana Dors was (for ignoring the black-and-white of the commercial itself as part of the "makes sense" bit). Think Jayne Mansfield or Marilyn Monroe, really. Though at this point, I dunno how many people in the UK know who Diana Dors was....
Anyway, I saw the "black and white" that didn't "make sense" to be things appearing in print, the famous "black and white and re(a)d all over." Guinness, on the other hand, makes perfect sense. :)
Gar vethed e-chunen; go hon bedithon na meth.
You would have to bring out
I'm surprised
It's never quite as black and white as you think
afhickman
I still find it hard to be offended by the Snickers ad; to me, it's just saying that gay panic is idiotic--the subtext is that these two actors take kissing one another in stride. It's just another day on the set to them. But the Guiness ad is priceless, especially the look on the house-husband's face when his man sets the coffee cup on his car. You can just tell this has happened before. By the way, Kitty and others, this is another black and white reference, perhaps suggesting the superiority of Guiness over coffee as a pick-me-up in the morning."The mountain has wings."
No Ikea?
Why shouldn't sofas come in flavors, just like families?"
I love this one.
"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." (Dorothy Parker)
Degree Ad...
The ultimate in WTF ads indeed...
Jawbone
The "Da Da Da" Clip