Is America Ready for a Gay "Idol"?

Unfortunately, O'Reilly will be weighing in on this very subject Monday night (great timing, huh?), with a segment on how Christianity influences American Idol. The ad for it showed a clip of Adam singing. So this will likely be a double whammy. Don't vote for him because he's gay AND Jewish. Ick. I can only hope that this backfires big time.

Can he please win and get the heck OUT OF MY SIGHT! I'm so sick of seeing his ugly face every freaking where!

We're down to the final voting. If you're a fan of Adam-VOTE -VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN. (The Kris Allan folks in Arkansas are mounting a major effort noted below. ) Adam Lambert fans can encourage all their friends to vote and some of the Adam Fan sites offer suggestions on "power voting"

http://adam-lambert.org/hardcore-voting-guide/

Please -do NOT assume that Adam has this won already -remember Brokeback Mountain !

 

The Kris Allen Kick Awesome Task Force has announced the locations of the "American Idol" watch and vote party Tuesday and results show watch party on Wednesday. Tuesday's event will be at Estes Stadium at the University of Central Arkansas from 6 p.m. to midnight. Those attending will sit on the home (west) side of the stadium and watch the show on the scoreboard on the south end of the stadium. The show is from 7 to 8 p.m., and the voting period has been extended to midnight. ..... During the voting period after the show, Chick-Fil-A will give free food coupons to those who stay to vote. Also, a prize drawing will be held, and those who participate in the voting will be eligible for the drawings. Prizes will include a high-definition TV courtesy of Conway Corp. and two gift certificates for a spa treatment courtesy of Cosmetic Laser Solutions. Those attending are encouraged to bring their cellular phone chargers, according to information from the task force. http://www.thecabin.net/stories/051709/loc_0517090014.shtml

Where is this going? Ya think this is another Prop 8 vote that all gays should rise up and smite the foe if Adam loses? Quite frankly my dears - I don't give a damn. Holy shit - you got two guys who I think are both talented and a vote mechanism that is worse than the chads in FL. So - the most people who vote the most times determine the best? Crappy politics and totally meaningless if Adam wins.

. . .I think he's a pretty good singer. . .

. . . but until he says the 1-2-3 words, he's heterosexual, as far as I'm concerned.

And, BTW, as far as him winning: don't count your chickens before they're hatched.

Remember Brokeback Mountain.

That's a really difficult question to answer. Why you ask. There are just way too many variables (i.e. voters ) out there. I am in the camp that leans to the side that say's he won't win ( I hope I'm wrong ) just because I have heard first hand from some "Christians" are voting against him not because he is a better singer but because they perceive him to be gay. People are going to vote in large numbers this year on that perception and forget that this is a singing contest.

 

That being said, will it be good for Adam if he doesn't win. That's a bit easier to answer. Absolutely. Adam will have a bigger career than probably any of the others. How big will be determined by his choices on where to put his talents. What type of career does he want. Does he just want to be a singer (doubtful as we know he's done some theater).

Here is my prediction, he will put out an album that will have pretty good numbers. He'll then hit up Broadway or find a movie roll that will fit him to a T. Adam will be around for a long time. (Longer than most idol winners... Ruben who?, Fantasia ?, The Soul Man Hicks. you get the picture.)

 

Adam is like Chris Daughtry and knows his strengths (Chris never wanted to be just a singer, he enjoyed the band experience and it fits perfectly for his genre.) Whatever happens on Wed. We know a few things. A star was Discovered. Simon will say I told you so. And we'll wonder what TV we'll gravitate to til the next season begins.

Give it to America, whenever something or someone becomes a major media coverage, it becomes political. Regardless if Adam is gay or not, he is in the eyes of the public! He is the representation of the gay community, he is the focal point of same sex marriage and prop 8. This is how the right wings fight their fight. Any which way they can to defeat any kind of civil rights movement. The right wings real political representatives were soundly beaten in the last election. States after states legalized same sex marriage.That's why we have the miss California fiasco, a beauty pageant become the tool for the like of religious right used against the gay communities. Yes, I enjoy nothing but an amateur competition. New talents that entertain me for a few months and nothing more. But guess what? These people manage to turn Mighty Mouse to a cocaine addict and hand bag carrying Teletubbies and Sponge Bob into gay characters. It would be fine if they are speaking from a mental institute and are heavily medicated and guarded from society, but they are not . These people have the power and organization skills to regularly sabotage and erode basic human rights in the country. No it's not about Adam and Kris any more, their pure intention of making a career in the entertainment industry has been hijacked by these unscrupulous Neanderthals. Evolution obviously did not happen to certain species of human kind. So are we voting for Adam because we truly believe he has the most talent between the two or we are voting for Adam to make a political statement?

Queries by journalists have been met with vague answers such as ‘I know who I am … and I’m just going to keep on singing. ’

This is actually very misleading - you guys should know better! At a press event before the Top 13 even started, he was asked, on camera, about those pictures of him kissing a guy, and that's when he gave the above response, which has sadly been regurgitated time and again as if he keeps saying it, when he only said it once. 

The contestants and their families (all of them - not just Adam) are not allowed to conduct any interviews while they are still on the show. Period. 

He has not even had the opportunity to be asked any of these ridiculous questions, so how is it that he is supposedly hiding anything? To say he is being coy is fundamentally unfair.

If there is the vast conspiracy against Adam, how has he made it further than eleven other people? Yes, there are some people who are voting against Adam because they think he is gay, but this is not a big group. Most people don't know or care about his sexuality, and if he loses, it will be because they like Kris' voice over his. Despite what some people have said, Kris does have a big fan base, and he has millions of people voting for him, because they like him. It has nothing to do with wanting to hurt Adam. If this wasn't the case, then people would have followed the judges' leads, and not voted for Kris, who hasn't received the amount of pimping that others have. As far as people mobilizing in Arkansas, that happens every year on Idol, the people in a contestants home town always form viewing and voting parties, their fan bases across the country do the same thing. Again, how does this indicaate homophobia? For goodness sake, it's just a tv show, get over it. People are going to vote for whoever they want, and for what ever reason they want. BTW, I can't get over the fact that the only reason that this site is covering this season, and the only reason some are supporting and voting for Adam, is because you all think he is gay.  Which is your right, just like it's other people's right to vote for whoever they want for whatever reason they want. 

Do you know what I like about this season's finale? It's Kris and Adam - two people of different musical styles, two different backgrounds, just two completely different people who got into the finale, both of whom I felt have already won. American Idol is just a "title" and nothing more.

And do you know what I like better about this season's finale? It's Kris and Adam - despite all those things that I've stated in the above paragraph, they are best friends. This competition has brought these two wonderful human beings together and bonded them and led them to become best friends. Hopefully that friendship will last even after Idol.

And do you know what I like best about this season's finale? It's Kris and Adam - they went beyond people's expectation. People would just assume that a devout Christian like Kris would not be friends with someone like Adam, who is gay. But no, they are friends. Best friends even, who silently supported each other, helped each other whenever possible and however they could. During interviews, you can sense how much they respect each other, love each other. Kris has many a times put his foot down if someone said something untrue about Adam or was just quick to judge Adam. Adam has many a times said how much he respects Kris, "loves that guy", how he's so mellow and nice and cool.

We can all learn from their bromance or friendship or whatever you want to call it. Their friendship makes whatever that's happening right now really immature and ridiculous.

And finally, I just wanna say that Adam has been true to himself throughout the time. I feel that he has been very honest throughout the whole time. If someone who is not fearful of what Fox would do asked Adam outright: "Are you gay?", I'm really sure that Adam would actually answer truthfully. He would never lie unless it was to protect someone he loves. And if you have not realized by now, he never sang "a guy to a girl" songs. Even if he did, he changed the lyrics to fit him. And he's always chosen something really neutral with hidden messages behind. For example, after the photos were leaked out, he sang Black Or White and he enunciated "And I told them about equality, and it's true you're either wrong or you're right" clearly. That's the message he's sending out out there. He doesn't give a damn what you said about him. He's being who he is, without shouting out loud to the rest of the world that he's "gay gay gay gay gayyyyy".

"Adam Lambert shouldn't be held responsible for what people write about him or how they write about him or what they call him when they write about him. He's always seemed humble and kind and not cocky or overly confident during the judging, the backstage videos and when talking to Ryan Seacrest."

 

This is exactly how you can describe Clay Aiken yet people not only voted against him for seeming to be gay (he wasn't talking any more than Adam is now and there were no pictures or video to go by), they publicly crucified him for years. He was mocked for not coming out and despite his enormous talent all the gossips cared about was making fun of him. They essentially destroyed his career. Is this Adam's future? Since most of the gossips are gay, it depends on whether they will endorse him or crucify him in the press.

Whether Adam wins or not I think he has far more potential than most of the contestants that come on this show. He reminds me of Freddie Mercury or David Bowie (though he's not imitative of either one) with his charisma, amazing vocals and sense of theatricality I think he has the potential of not just being popular or successful but influential. I don't usually care that much about the winners of this show but I'm definitely interested in what he does next whether he wins or not.

I don't know if this is going to come down to a gay vs straight thing. I'm more worried about the consistent pimping of Adam Lambert by all of the judges and producers who have given him prime time performance slots all season. They've been touting him every where they go, on every talk show and in every radio interview. If Adam loses, it may very well be the fault of Simon, Paula and those other two idiots. Kris' has sustained a fan base throughout the competition who voted for him until their fingers bled. He's had little help from the judges who've often given him muted praise even on the best of his nights. If he's so close without the Danny supporters and without the judges' help, he could potentially destroy Adam in the finale if the majority of Danny supporters vote for him tomorrow night. I've been voting for Kris all season merely because I wanted him to make it to the finale(and I truly love his voice), but my votes will go to Adam tomorrow, even if he's outperformed by Kris, as I think crowning him would be a great thing for the show and for, well, us.

is how supportive he is of the other contestents and how much they like him. To me that say it all. He's a Class Act.

Just in time for the finale, a big oops from third placer Danny Gokey, clarifying that he loves fellow contestant Michael Sarver in the "right, er Godly" way. Why he thought Godly would be better than right, oy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMxxSuyp_uc

This video was removed from Sarver's page, and an apology issued (see comments on youtube), which didn't quite make sense either, but at least they get it was a screwup.

...is a HUGE heterosexual! All that ungodly manly love that was posted on the Internet is photoshopped tongue.

 I know this is true because someone in New York saw him at the Olive Garden in Burbank, and he was sitting next to a woman that he introduced as his "hag." Now, HOW would Adam know if the girl was attractive or not if he wasn't heterosexual?

Gosh, I hope his heterosexuality doesn't cost him the Broadway vote!

 

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My,my. Such serious pontification over something that is ultimately trivial. Name three AI winners that have become successful. Several, like Jennifer Hudson, have managed to manipulate their exposure into very good things. Everybody who's seen People magazine can probably identify rooster-headed Clay Aiken; who remembers what Reuben or Fantasia look like? I stopped watching AI way back when Constantine Maroulis was voted off (or he might have escaped, I couldn't tell), but I'm looking forward to seeing him on the Tony's in a few weeks. If Adam wins, cool. Who knows what lurks in the hearts of any sort of mobilized voters? Will it matter? Probably not so much.

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Comparisons to a political election crack me up. People forget one person can (and does) vote several hundred times. So an AI show getting more votes than a presidential election isn't much of a surprise. And when was the last time a presidential candidate campaigned for the text-happy 10- to 17-year-old vote? Conservative Christians not voting for Adam aside, we all know a huge majority of the votes are coming from people who are barely aware of their religious morals still being brainwashed into them by their parents, and/or are unaware that boys can even like other boys "that way". "Let go of my ears, I know what I'm doing."

Then again, it's so not the reason why I want Adam Lambert to win! I think he is beyond talented!! What he does technically with a song and how he transforms it and how innovative a song sounds, even though it's a song heard over and over and over again, is just phenomenal!!

Where I often speculate and stupidly wonder whether such and so actor is gay or not, in Adam Lambert's case it SO DOESN'T change anything at all - in my point of view. I want to hear him sing and buy his CD, go to his concerts etc etc because I think he is a crazy awesome singer! Man!

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I'm having this rather schmaltzy fantasy for Wednesday evening. Being an old poof, and very much into Broadway (whut Adam brought with him).

Adam's won or even lost.  And as his finale for winning (or losing, god forbid), he chooses "Somewhere" from "West Side Story" from fellow LGBT alumni, Leonard Bernstein.

He performs a devastatingly emotional rendition of the piece (albeit shortened), and at the end, with the roar of applause, he calls his (apparently long-time) partner on the stage and they hug vigorously.

By god, if he wins, they even kiss!!

Wow, what a vision!!

The_FNG

What I find intriguing more than whether a gay man can win Idol is whether one of the least pimped Finalists can topple the Godzilla of pimpees. In all honesty, he's hit a plateau (One wasn't all that great) while Kris is probably peaking at the right time. Adam will probably win the title, but then another battle begins. I can see Kris in today's musical landscape. Adam, not so much, unless he wants to battle it out with Katy Perry and Lady Haha.

Does it really matter who wins? Clay Aiken didn't win, but he's had a pretty good career anyway, better than the actual winner. Either way, Adam is going to be a star and good for him. 

Perez Hilton wrote about Adam's new BF today.. I'm pissed, he couldn't have waited two more days until AFTER he had won? This could hurt Adam's chanses of winning. Having an openly gay AI winner would he HUGE, considering this would be the first time..

 

Harvey Milk: You gotta give 'em hope.

Isn't this taking it a little too far, I mean, this is a singing competition and I don't think all the people voting tonight is gonna think hard about what exactly they're voting for and what that vote might mean. You vote for the one you like, the one which music you will most likely by, and for me that person is Adam Lambert. He is the most talented person I have ever seen on American Idol, by far. I just hate that it has to turn to this when we talk about Adam, I don't think he wants to be known as the gay AI contestant, he just wants to be known as Adam. And not at all b/c he doesn't want it to come out, but b/c he just wants to do music. He is so open and I hate when people say he needs to come out. He doesn't need to say those words. What he has done on AI is so brave, and I have mad respect for him. He is an inspiration to all of us - gay or not. He tells us to embrace each other's differences and that it's cool to be different. He shows us every week that he is confident with who he is and that he is not trying to hide his true self. He proves that in the end, it's worth staying true to yourself if you want to suceed. He gives me hope. And I am addicted to his voice, listen to his songs 24/7. I love Adam Lambert and I hope he wins. But either way, he'll have a great career after. PLEASE VOTE FOR ADAM!!! ALL 4 HOURS!!

Adam is like a great thoroughbred and he has so far run the race wire to wire for me. The primary audience for American Idol is tweeners, most of them who could careless what Adam's sexuality is all about. He fun to look at and amazingly talented to them, lets hope that carries the day and not a voting blockade by the Christian Right. Why aren’t these God fear people and their children reading the Bible around the kitchen table instead of that heathen TV show? It is a singing competition a takeover by the gay community. Have these people not heard of Johnny Mathis, Johnnie Ray, Van Cliburn, Leonard Bernstein, Billy Strayhorn, Elton John, George Michael? They were and are huge stars that have made incredible contributions to the world through their music. Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh have huge platforms from which to speak, but do they speak truth and reality--not always. Between gay bashing and encouraging the war effort these two men have caused the death of far more men and women in this country. Neither as far as I am aware has ever served in the armed forces. if terrorist ever came to their door they would mostly likely use their guns and fail miserably while cowering in terror. Instead they use innocent men and women as shields before they can get to them. But, let a gay man win a singing competition is the most unholy of the unholies. Remember that is their job, to show the world how bad things have gotten when two people of the same sex love each. Other countries accept gay rights, other countries have gays in the military, other countries let same-sex couples marry, and other countries have had gay winners of their versions of Idol. Yes, America is leading the way in the fight for freedom; accept if you are gay and a brilliantly talented singer.

 

That's all I am saying... 

INSIDEGUY

Why can't he just be!

The evening newsreader last night, while commenting on the final of AI, said that he thought that Kris should win and told the viewers to "think of the children" while voting. I didn't DVR it, so don't have a record of his exact words unfortunately. It was during the readers' banter back and forth and an off-the-cuff remark, but I thought that it was offensive.