First off, thanks again for another brilliant edition of GOOL. The interview with Forbes March was terrific, and I am looking forward to Mason creating trouble for Nuke. It's about damned time that Nuke was subjected to that age old soap staple: the love triangle. I would love to see divided fan bases and factions that good love triangles are made of. March's entry may very well be the shot in the arm the Nuke story needs.
Second, thank you for pointing out the ridiculous double standards on display right now on Y&R. I hope there's a twist coming around because while I love Michael Muhney's delicious portrayal of Adam, I find it insulting that Rafe is so naive. Forget that Yani Gellman looks like he's 17 because I'll suspend my disbelief on that willingly (after all, this is the same show that has Tricia Cast, who is 42, who plays Nina as a mother to John Driscoll's, who's 28 years old, Chance). The Rafe character, however, is supposed to be an experienced lawyer, and Rafe is behaving anything but: Rafe, in violation of canons of legal ethics, is having an affair with a possible suspect that could clear his client -- his aunt! WTF all around. And for the audience not to even see the physicality of the Adam/Rafe relationship is ridiculous. I am calling BS on the notion that it's best to leave "things to the imagination" in this relationship because hetero couples have used sex as blackmail weapons since time immemorial, and those scenes are almost never done off-screen. So, why are Adam and Rafe being treated differently? BS indeed.
Third, I am pulling for Thom Bierdz to succeed in this story because I think it still has potential. It was a rocky start, it's hard to be sympathetic to Phillip right now, but things can still turn around. So, I'm hopeful on that front.
Fourth, VL really has an annoying tendency to do arcs for Ollian in short spurts, but at least with this couple, we get every bang for every second they're onscreen. And the vLog is wonderful: it's an acting exercise of sorts for Jo Weil and Thore Schoelermann, who remain so committed to their characters in these vLogs that the destruction of the fourth wall gives the audience an almost too intimate look at the relationship of the couple. I'm thankful that Das Erste, VL and the actors are doing this for the fans of the show, and that they even do their own English subtitles. Another cool thing to look forward to every Friday thanks to our friends from Germany.
Fifth, the EastEnders story is suffering from the CBS gay panic for some reason for which I can only surmise: is it the Muslim factor? I don't know, but I'm enjoying Jason Patridge's performance. I found him extremely bitchy in the beginning, but am feeling his pain right now because of his longing for Syed, who's stupidly going ahead with his marriage to Amira. (Don't like that name now after the 2008 debacle with "Ameera" on ATWT). I hope there's a happy ending for Christian. Partridge has won me over.
Finally, I hope in the future that you do a joint interview with Scott Evans and Brett Claywell, who are quickly becoming my favorite pairing on TV. Claywell indeed plays the lovelorn Kyle so authentically and those scenes where he was longing for his Fish by looking at an old college picture he carries in his wallet were so sweet! And I love the fact that Kyle is as pure as the driven snow while Fish is this bumbling, by the book guy. I cannot wait for Fish and Kyle to kiss on August 6th. That's going to be a banner day for the growing number of Kish fans.
Is in Manchester (see "Queer as Folk UK" for the proof). Soho is the gay center in London. "Coronation Street" is all about Manchester, which is a different world from London (or the East End). My landlady when I studied in Britain was a Mancunian and like a character straight out of "Coronation Street."
I really like Kyle and Fish storyline (even i think that's the easy part, and being interesting when they becoming a couple is the real test) but about what Neson said about the kiss, i believe when i see it. Nelson makes statements all the time, and then change his mind, he claims that Y&R (sort of) gay storyline will be the best since sliced bread, and right now he is only increased his criticism about it (and i really think that he would be a lot harsh if he hasn't praised it that much before). I really hope that Kishmet get the same treatment than any other couple in the show, because right now the story is goo (and i'm really liking Kyle)
About ATWT, this must be the first time that i totally agree with Anthony. Mason introduction was only a little scene, not that much, but let me guessing what will happen next. Nuke needs someone who shake their world and i think Mason could be the one. I'm not very fond of love triangles, but if the take the time and do the right thing making the conection beliable, that could be a very interesting storyline. Even with that i think it could be great if Luke has his own opportinity to cheating with some guy, because jelousy can work both ways.
About chemistry, it's really difficult to say something with so littles scenes, i hope it works, because it will be not only good for the storyline, but for Jake's own credit. Because even everybody recognize that he has great chemistry with Van, the truth is that almost everybody has great chemistry with Van, his two dads, his mother, his gradma, Brian or Casey, all have great chemistry with Van, i even think that Luke is the only opportunity for Ally to have a boyfriend that has chemistry with her. And about Van's acting, i think the last week scenes show why he is nominated to the emmys every year. There's nothing in the story that invite you to feel empathy for Luke, because the reality is that nothing that happens is such a drama, but in the rejection of the script and the last scene is almost imposible not feel pity for him
...a lady at work that watches ATWT turned to me at lunch and said "Why do older gay men who are positions of power always go for younger guys that work under them?"
It's so Greek...
younger straight women that work under them as well. Especially in real life and in soaps (AMC's Adam Chandler and Dixie from the 80's sticks in my mind).
I really enjoyed the interview with Forbes, because it's refreshing to see that he's ready for whatever TPTB/TIIC are going to do for his character and his involvement in the Noah and Luke storyline.
Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
I'm not particularly aware of that being a stereotype, unless she's referring obliquely to the priest scandal that's often played off as a gay thing. While there is a stereotype (with some truth) about a lot of May/December relationships, they aren't usually about authority. In fact, as I'm writing this, I've managed to dredge up several conflicting stereotypes of gay men, and I honestly can't picture that one up there at all.
This seems more like a good opportunity to discuss why your coworker has that view of gay people, than a reason to turn against this storyline.
Now, if she had said of Rafe "why do gay men always go for straight guys," or of Kyle "why do gay men always go for men in uniforms," or of Luke "why are gay men always drunken sluts", there would at least be an actual stereotype there, though not a reality.
I actually like the forbidden aspects of a possible Noah/Mason pairing, not just the age difference, but the student/teacher relationship. That is what intrigues me about the storyline. And as I pointed out, Noah is the type of young man, desperate for approval and attention from a father figure/mentor, who would develop romantic feelings for someone like Mason, no matter how happy he may be in his current relationship. I would have loved it if the show had of had Luke actually have an affair with his step-grandpappy Brian Wheatley. Lord knows the actors did have chemistry and Van has said he played it as if Luke were attracted to Brian. So you could say I'm a fan of May/December affairs and love matches. I guess the difference is that in those stories the age difference is actually part of the story and with Y&R bad casting and unfortunate wardrobe choices make it look as if there's a element to the story that isn't there.
...so I don't think she is familiar with the storyline.
when she said it I asked her to give some examples and she pointed to Foley, Adams and a few others. I countered with examples of straights doing the same thing...but her argument wasn't that it doesn't happen on both sides. He perception is that ATWT is doing a storyline that seems expected...older gay guy going for the younger gay guy. The gay community's stereotypical desire for youth.
i personally don't care which way the Luke and Noah relationship goes...I'm not interested beyond watching the YouTube recaps...I've long since given up on ATWT as worth Tivo space. She was hoping there would be a love triangle among students.
About EE - while some foreign countries have explicit soaps compared to us, the UK does not. Hollyoaks is a teen soap so they have a different standard. The big guns, like Eastenders and Corrie, play it safe, especially in the past few years. Emmerdale had a surprising amount of GLBT content running consistently over the past 20 years (that is all gone now -- the last gay story ended earlier this year), but that has been relatively chaste. Eastenders takes a very safe, very predictable road on all fronts now. Everything is bad comic relief, cameos by faded names of the British past, repeat stories involving women who obsess over sleazy men who can barely make a facial expression or speak above a whisper. Their gay story is about publicity more than anything else, if you ask me. They also take a safe road in saying, "This is about religion," because that's a copout. That's their way of excusing the lack of intimacy. And yet most British Muslims probably see very little of themselves in this story, or in this family. The Masood mother is a caricature, she is mostly played for laughs. Syed himself is slick and hollow, he follows few rules of his faith. If this story were about a very devout Muslim man who was fighting sexual attraction to another man, THAT would cause a firestorm. Instead, we get this guy who drinks, has lots of premarital sex, lies, cares about no one but himself. They haven't made any real effort to make viewers feel for Syed or Christian, because they just want shock value.
I miss the old days of Y&R when they explored family ties and relationships. I don't think they do now (most of Ashley's family doesn't care about her, most of the Newmans rarely have scenes together unless the story calls for it). They have steamrolled right over the potential years of fallout of Phillip's retur. He's had no scenes where he and Jill talk about everything. She's had few scenes with Cane and yet she's already totally forgiven him. He barely had scenes with Nina again before she became his chief defender. Phillip never had any one on one scenes with Billy. They also didn't discuss any of the Phillip/Nina relationship. And the writing choices for Phillip are baffling. If they want to make him a jerk, then that's up to them (I'm not sure if it's intentional or not because many of the characters on the show now act like jerks), but there's still no reason to have him tell Nina what a bad mother she is and she's doing to him what Jill and Katherine did to him. That just made him look reprehensible.
Thank you for keeping us updated on all these soaps. Many of them I never get a chance to watch so I depend on your recaps.
BTW, I really like the guy who plays the gay character on River City. I think he brings a heck of a lot to such a thankless role. What do you think of him?
1. The characters Adam and Rafe are around the same age (though the actors are about 10 years apart). 2. I never noticed the age difference. I live in Florida. Those darn Latinos usually look years younger than the rest of us! IOW, I'm used to seeing nonhispanic men in couples with much younger looking latino/hispanic men. Remind me to never introduce you to my current romantic interest who is Cuban. I guess we'll make you cringe too.
Huh. I hadn't really seen what the big deal was about the ages, either. Considering that I live in Texas, I suppose what you're talking about may be the same cause, which I hadn't considered.
It may also be not just that we're used to Latino guys looking younger than white equivalents, but that we're more used to reading through the usual signs of age to see a bit more accurately.
There's a guy I'm lusting after from afar at my gym who is quite clearly in the mid-20s range to me, but might trigger the same "chicken meat" reaction in a lot of the people on this site.
Thanks again for a great article! I have to say I really enjoy the GOOL Theater this week. I can't wait for the juicy storyline that is Axel and Roman! It's bound to be awesome! Let's just hope they don't do the same as last time over at Alles Was Zählt. I was pretty pissed when Deniz started kissing Vanessa. Besides, Roman is such a sweetheart. He deserves his own lover boy! :D
The interview with Forbes was delightful and informative, well done. I love reading stuff like this, like his thoughts about pretentious professors and calling Noah "lovely" and being best man for his friends in Toronto.
He has a lot more substance and insight than I gave him credit for when I was stroking to Mutant X!
Sounds like a title for his biography: "Stroking to Mutant X: The Forbes March Story"
also what was more annoying; was i never watch eastenders but i watched coz of them n really enjoyed it, but they seemed to be the weakest link, their scenes almost jarring against the whole of each episode.
I hadn't realized that this guy was the "Nash" I've heard so much about, but who died before I came onto the scene. I'm having a little trouble picturing him with Jessica. Tess is a little easier. :)
I have to go completely off topic with a comment about yesterday's General Hospital. I thought the ending was quite clever. As soon as there were two people on the road driving emotionally, it was clear there was going to be an accident. Instead of just milking that for false tension, like we can't see what's clearly coming, they put some tension back into it by having four separate drivers (and a pedestrian) out on the streets, leaving it unclear who was actually going to be in the accident.
Pity about the previews for today giving it away, then.
Anthony, you rock! Your weekly column is always insiteful and really gets you to pay attention to what are basically guilty pleasures! You have me clogging my DVR now every week with Y&R and OLTL. The Forbes March interview, like all your interviews, was really great! It's first nice to see actors wanting to give meaty interviews and not just the usual boring fluff.
The best part was his answer about the gay male complication of realizing you are gay and how its something we as a group will only understand:
FM: It adds a dimension to it. That's why I was looking forward to playing this character, finding out what that is. What it is is it's almost like having a secret all the time. As an actor, you're always looking for your character's secret, and you're either telling the secret or keeping it. It shouldn't be that way. It's like, you have to keep all the disclaimers in or else you'll be a homophobe. It is that way. Either a man or a woman who is gay is out or they're in at any given moment. That's really interesting. As a character, I'll pick moments to make a little inside joke to Noah. You know, we're both gay, we know this guy is and he doesn't know it, we can make an inside joke here. It adds a whole dimension. Do I touch him? Do I not touch him? How do I feel when he touches me? It's a totally different relationship. Are you in private; are you in public? There's a whole added dimension to it, which is a revelation to me.
It's nice to see an actor really trying to understand internally what he should be doing in this role. It would be great if it was a gay actor but at least he thought about it... although throwing in the wife was an interesting "ploy" lol!
I am really ready to dump the Nuke supercouple and herald the KISH! First, Oliver and Kyle are WAY better actors. And 2nd, its great to see OLTL taking time to have a backstory. I wish it wasn't a coming out story with Oliver, but we'll see how it builds. It would be great if these two would become such totems as Nuke is in the show once the good stuff starts and they settle in as a couple. I really was loving the Kyle/Roxie stuff and Roxie herself is not just a scream but she basically blows all the other actors off the map! You just want to have a drink and smoke with this woman.
The Y&R stuff is like one of the zappers to a bug. You want to love it but you also get burned in the process. The Adam/Rafe hug was lame but the Heather/Rafe scene was a fun tease. I am really loving the hilarity of the Mary Jane/Adam teaming with that stuffed cat! The actress who is Mary Jane is just carrying it off so well!!! The need to expose Adam though already, force him to admit he is bisexual, and then move Rafe on to another storyline or team he and Heather together to get back at Adam... ooo! I vote for #3!
I think that the Phillip story (and Thom) will get better over the next few weeks.
I'm NOT as hopeful for Rafe's storyline.Forget about Yani Gellman looking too young, it's just there isn't very much to his character. And it's not like they haven't had the time to develop Rafe more. At this point I'm not sure that a re-cast will help. Let's face it, there's NO story there.
Are we sure that Chance isn't gay? I'm just NOT seeing a romance between Phillip/Rafe. And it has NOTHING to do with age. More to do with how this show writes most of the love stories for the straight couples. And the fact that Rafe has very little interaction with anyone besides Adam.
BTW, loved the interview with Forbes March. And I'm hoping that he will provide some interesting distractions for Noah!
Chance definitely isn't gay--though, this is Passions Y&R, so who knows what'll come next?
On yesterday's episode, they started laying the groundwork for the long rumored romance between him and his uncle's wife, Chloe. I'm really looking forward to that triangle because I think John Driscoll, Liz Hendrickson (Chloe) and Billy Miller (Chance's uncle, Billy) are three of the most talented young actors in daytime.
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I just wanted to give you a head's up on two new soaps.
The first soap is Spanish, it's called Un golpe de suerte. It's really a great soap. The soap includes a gay teen, Alberto, but he hasn't been giving much of a love life yet. It's mostly been about his friendship with his friend Fonsi. Their friendship is VERY cute though, talk about bromance!
There's another storyline on the same soap which is kinda different. Ginés is an elderely man (not old, but you know what I mean), married to Lourdes. They have a son together, Victor. In one of the first episodes that aired of this soap Lourdes walked in on Ginés and to her surprise found him with another man. Since then it's been about Ginés and his lover (boyfriend), they've had many cute scenes together, some a bit more raunchy than the lame ones on ATWT. Anyway, Lourdes and Ginés tried to keep it a secret from Victor, to protect him, but this is a soap after all.. Victor knew something was going on between his parents, since they fought all the time. He started to spy on his mother, because he thought she was having an affair. He was in shock when he found it was his dad who's been having an affair with another man! Victor has been known as a homophobe, and he didn't exactly accept his father being gay at first, but he came around.. There was a very sweet moment between those two. Now Ginés is out to everyone, his friends and family, and Cisco (his boyfriend) is moving in! Can you say AKWARD?!?! LOL. Sorry about the long explanation, but it's definitely worth to see. Great acting from everyone.
The other one is a Colombian soap called Niños Ricos Pobres Padres. It's about rich families, and their circle of friends, including their teenage rebelious children. These kids are spoiled, and in the first episode one of the girls got raped. It's mostly about this girl, she is the main character, and the guy who drugged her (the bad guy) and the not so rich, but good guy. The typical soap love triangle. The gay characters are not main characters, and they don't get much screen time, but their storyline is definitely worth checking out. It's about Santiago and his friend Diego, all we've seen up until now is that Diego watched Santiago while he took his shirt off and Santiago freaked out after Diego touched him after they went swimming.
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First off, thanks again for another brilliant edition of GOOL. The interview with Forbes March was terrific, and I am looking forward to Mason creating trouble for Nuke. It's about damned time that Nuke was subjected to that age old soap staple: the love triangle. I would love to see divided fan bases and factions that good love triangles are made of. March's entry may very well be the shot in the arm the Nuke story needs.
Second, thank you for pointing out the ridiculous double standards on display right now on Y&R. I hope there's a twist coming around because while I love Michael Muhney's delicious portrayal of Adam, I find it insulting that Rafe is so naive. Forget that Yani Gellman looks like he's 17 because I'll suspend my disbelief on that willingly (after all, this is the same show that has Tricia Cast, who is 42, who plays Nina as a mother to John Driscoll's, who's 28 years old, Chance). The Rafe character, however, is supposed to be an experienced lawyer, and Rafe is behaving anything but: Rafe, in violation of canons of legal ethics, is having an affair with a possible suspect that could clear his client -- his aunt! WTF all around. And for the audience not to even see the physicality of the Adam/Rafe relationship is ridiculous. I am calling BS on the notion that it's best to leave "things to the imagination" in this relationship because hetero couples have used sex as blackmail weapons since time immemorial, and those scenes are almost never done off-screen. So, why are Adam and Rafe being treated differently? BS indeed.
Third, I am pulling for Thom Bierdz to succeed in this story because I think it still has potential. It was a rocky start, it's hard to be sympathetic to Phillip right now, but things can still turn around. So, I'm hopeful on that front.
Fourth, VL really has an annoying tendency to do arcs for Ollian in short spurts, but at least with this couple, we get every bang for every second they're onscreen. And the vLog is wonderful: it's an acting exercise of sorts for Jo Weil and Thore Schoelermann, who remain so committed to their characters in these vLogs that the destruction of the fourth wall gives the audience an almost too intimate look at the relationship of the couple. I'm thankful that Das Erste, VL and the actors are doing this for the fans of the show, and that they even do their own English subtitles. Another cool thing to look forward to every Friday thanks to our friends from Germany.
Fifth, the EastEnders story is suffering from the CBS gay panic for some reason for which I can only surmise: is it the Muslim factor? I don't know, but I'm enjoying Jason Patridge's performance. I found him extremely bitchy in the beginning, but am feeling his pain right now because of his longing for Syed, who's stupidly going ahead with his marriage to Amira. (Don't like that name now after the 2008 debacle with "Ameera" on ATWT). I hope there's a happy ending for Christian. Partridge has won me over.
Finally, I hope in the future that you do a joint interview with Scott Evans and Brett Claywell, who are quickly becoming my favorite pairing on TV. Claywell indeed plays the lovelorn Kyle so authentically and those scenes where he was longing for his Fish by looking at an old college picture he carries in his wallet were so sweet! And I love the fact that Kyle is as pure as the driven snow while Fish is this bumbling, by the book guy. I cannot wait for Fish and Kyle to kiss on August 6th. That's going to be a banner day for the growing number of Kish fans.
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I really like Kyle and Fish storyline (even i think that's the easy part, and being interesting when they becoming a couple is the real test) but about what Neson said about the kiss, i believe when i see it. Nelson makes statements all the time, and then change his mind, he claims that Y&R (sort of) gay storyline will be the best since sliced bread, and right now he is only increased his criticism about it (and i really think that he would be a lot harsh if he hasn't praised it that much before). I really hope that Kishmet get the same treatment than any other couple in the show, because right now the story is goo (and i'm really liking Kyle)
About ATWT, this must be the first time that i totally agree with Anthony. Mason introduction was only a little scene, not that much, but let me guessing what will happen next. Nuke needs someone who shake their world and i think Mason could be the one. I'm not very fond of love triangles, but if the take the time and do the right thing making the conection beliable, that could be a very interesting storyline. Even with that i think it could be great if Luke has his own opportinity to cheating with some guy, because jelousy can work both ways.
About chemistry, it's really difficult to say something with so littles scenes, i hope it works, because it will be not only good for the storyline, but for Jake's own credit. Because even everybody recognize that he has great chemistry with Van, the truth is that almost everybody has great chemistry with Van, his two dads, his mother, his gradma, Brian or Casey, all have great chemistry with Van, i even think that Luke is the only opportunity for Ally to have a boyfriend that has chemistry with her. And about Van's acting, i think the last week scenes show why he is nominated to the emmys every year. There's nothing in the story that invite you to feel empathy for Luke, because the reality is that nothing that happens is such a drama, but in the rejection of the script and the last scene is almost imposible not feel pity for him
I was all for a Mason road bump until...
Well, some older straight males in positions of power go after
younger straight women that work under them as well. Especially in real life and in soaps (AMC's Adam Chandler and Dixie from the 80's sticks in my mind).
I really enjoyed the interview with Forbes, because it's refreshing to see that he's ready for whatever TPTB/TIIC are going to do for his character and his involvement in the Noah and Luke storyline.
Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
Gay Men Always Go For...
This seems more like a good opportunity to discuss why your coworker has that view of gay people, than a reason to turn against this storyline.
Now, if she had said of Rafe "why do gay men always go for straight guys," or of Kyle "why do gay men always go for men in uniforms," or of Luke "why are gay men always drunken sluts", there would at least be an actual stereotype there, though not a reality.
Personally....
She doesn't watch that soap...
...so I don't think she is familiar with the storyline.
when she said it I asked her to give some examples and she pointed to Foley, Adams and a few others. I countered with examples of straights doing the same thing...but her argument wasn't that it doesn't happen on both sides. He perception is that ATWT is doing a storyline that seems expected...older gay guy going for the younger gay guy. The gay community's stereotypical desire for youth.
i personally don't care which way the Luke and Noah relationship goes...I'm not interested beyond watching the YouTube recaps...I've long since given up on ATWT as worth Tivo space. She was hoping there would be a love triangle among students.
Great work as always
About EE - while some foreign countries have explicit soaps compared to us, the UK does not. Hollyoaks is a teen soap so they have a different standard. The big guns, like Eastenders and Corrie, play it safe, especially in the past few years. Emmerdale had a surprising amount of GLBT content running consistently over the past 20 years (that is all gone now -- the last gay story ended earlier this year), but that has been relatively chaste. Eastenders takes a very safe, very predictable road on all fronts now. Everything is bad comic relief, cameos by faded names of the British past, repeat stories involving women who obsess over sleazy men who can barely make a facial expression or speak above a whisper. Their gay story is about publicity more than anything else, if you ask me. They also take a safe road in saying, "This is about religion," because that's a copout. That's their way of excusing the lack of intimacy. And yet most British Muslims probably see very little of themselves in this story, or in this family. The Masood mother is a caricature, she is mostly played for laughs. Syed himself is slick and hollow, he follows few rules of his faith. If this story were about a very devout Muslim man who was fighting sexual attraction to another man, THAT would cause a firestorm. Instead, we get this guy who drinks, has lots of premarital sex, lies, cares about no one but himself. They haven't made any real effort to make viewers feel for Syed or Christian, because they just want shock value.
I miss the old days of Y&R when they explored family ties and relationships. I don't think they do now (most of Ashley's family doesn't care about her, most of the Newmans rarely have scenes together unless the story calls for it). They have steamrolled right over the potential years of fallout of Phillip's retur. He's had no scenes where he and Jill talk about everything. She's had few scenes with Cane and yet she's already totally forgiven him. He barely had scenes with Nina again before she became his chief defender. Phillip never had any one on one scenes with Billy. They also didn't discuss any of the Phillip/Nina relationship. And the writing choices for Phillip are baffling. If they want to make him a jerk, then that's up to them (I'm not sure if it's intentional or not because many of the characters on the show now act like jerks), but there's still no reason to have him tell Nina what a bad mother she is and she's doing to him what Jill and Katherine did to him. That just made him look reprehensible.
Thank you for keeping us updated on all these soaps. Many of them I never get a chance to watch so I depend on your recaps.
BTW, I really like the guy who plays the gay character on River City. I think he brings a heck of a lot to such a thankless role. What do you think of him?
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Thanks again for a great
Great Interview Anthony and Forbes!
The interview with Forbes was delightful and informative, well done. I love reading stuff like this, like his thoughts about pretentious professors and calling Noah "lovely" and being best man for his friends in Toronto.
He has a lot more substance and insight than I gave him credit for when I was stroking to Mutant X!
Sounds like a title for his biography: "Stroking to Mutant X: The Forbes March Story"
crap writing for christian and syed
i agree.
also what was more annoying; was i never watch eastenders but i watched coz of them n really enjoyed it, but they seemed to be the weakest link, their scenes almost jarring against the whole of each episode.
Nash
I have to go completely off topic with a comment about yesterday's General Hospital. I thought the ending was quite clever. As soon as there were two people on the road driving emotionally, it was clear there was going to be an accident. Instead of just milking that for false tension, like we can't see what's clearly coming, they put some tension back into it by having four separate drivers (and a pedestrian) out on the streets, leaving it unclear who was actually going to be in the accident.
Pity about the previews for today giving it away, then.
I think I will have the KISH...
Anthony, you rock! Your weekly column is always insiteful and really gets you to pay attention to what are basically guilty pleasures! You have me clogging my DVR now every week with Y&R and OLTL. The Forbes March interview, like all your interviews, was really great! It's first nice to see actors wanting to give meaty interviews and not just the usual boring fluff.
The best part was his answer about the gay male complication of realizing you are gay and how its something we as a group will only understand:
FM: It adds a dimension to it. That's why I was looking forward to playing this character, finding out what that is. What it is is it's almost like having a secret all the time. As an actor, you're always looking for your character's secret, and you're either telling the secret or keeping it. It shouldn't be that way. It's like, you have to keep all the disclaimers in or else you'll be a homophobe. It is that way. Either a man or a woman who is gay is out or they're in at any given moment. That's really interesting. As a character, I'll pick moments to make a little inside joke to Noah. You know, we're both gay, we know this guy is and he doesn't know it, we can make an inside joke here. It adds a whole dimension. Do I touch him? Do I not touch him? How do I feel when he touches me? It's a totally different relationship. Are you in private; are you in public? There's a whole added dimension to it, which is a revelation to me.
It's nice to see an actor really trying to understand internally what he should be doing in this role. It would be great if it was a gay actor but at least he thought about it... although throwing in the wife was an interesting "ploy" lol!
I am really ready to dump the Nuke supercouple and herald the KISH! First, Oliver and Kyle are WAY better actors. And 2nd, its great to see OLTL taking time to have a backstory. I wish it wasn't a coming out story with Oliver, but we'll see how it builds. It would be great if these two would become such totems as Nuke is in the show once the good stuff starts and they settle in as a couple. I really was loving the Kyle/Roxie stuff and Roxie herself is not just a scream but she basically blows all the other actors off the map! You just want to have a drink and smoke with this woman.
The Y&R stuff is like one of the zappers to a bug. You want to love it but you also get burned in the process. The Adam/Rafe hug was lame but the Heather/Rafe scene was a fun tease. I am really loving the hilarity of the Mary Jane/Adam teaming with that stuffed cat! The actress who is Mary Jane is just carrying it off so well!!! The need to expose Adam though already, force him to admit he is bisexual, and then move Rafe on to another storyline or team he and Heather together to get back at Adam... ooo! I vote for #3!
How singularly innocent I look this morning.
Very disapointed in Y&R
I think that the Phillip story (and Thom) will get better over the next few weeks.
I'm NOT as hopeful for Rafe's storyline.Forget about Yani Gellman looking too young, it's just there isn't very much to his character. And it's not like they haven't had the time to develop Rafe more. At this point I'm not sure that a re-cast will help. Let's face it, there's NO story there.
Are we sure that Chance isn't gay? I'm just NOT seeing a romance between Phillip/Rafe. And it has NOTHING to do with age. More to do with how this show writes most of the love stories for the straight couples. And the fact that Rafe has very little interaction with anyone besides Adam.
BTW, loved the interview with Forbes March. And I'm hoping that he will provide some interesting distractions for Noah!
Chances Are
Chance definitely isn't gay--though, this is Passions Y&R, so who knows what'll come next?
On yesterday's episode, they started laying the groundwork for the long rumored romance between him and his uncle's wife, Chloe. I'm really looking forward to that triangle because I think John Driscoll, Liz Hendrickson (Chloe) and Billy Miller (Chance's uncle, Billy) are three of the most talented young actors in daytime.
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"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught inan inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment ofdestiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly." - MLK
New gay soaps
I just wanted to give you a head's up on two new soaps.
The first soap is Spanish, it's called Un golpe de suerte. It's really a great soap. The soap includes a gay teen, Alberto, but he hasn't been giving much of a love life yet. It's mostly been about his friendship with his friend Fonsi. Their friendship is VERY cute though, talk about bromance!
There's another storyline on the same soap which is kinda different. Ginés is an elderely man (not old, but you know what I mean), married to Lourdes. They have a son together, Victor. In one of the first episodes that aired of this soap Lourdes walked in on Ginés and to her surprise found him with another man. Since then it's been about Ginés and his lover (boyfriend), they've had many cute scenes together, some a bit more raunchy than the lame ones on ATWT. Anyway, Lourdes and Ginés tried to keep it a secret from Victor, to protect him, but this is a soap after all.. Victor knew something was going on between his parents, since they fought all the time. He started to spy on his mother, because he thought she was having an affair. He was in shock when he found it was his dad who's been having an affair with another man! Victor has been known as a homophobe, and he didn't exactly accept his father being gay at first, but he came around.. There was a very sweet moment between those two. Now Ginés is out to everyone, his friends and family, and Cisco (his boyfriend) is moving in! Can you say AKWARD?!?! LOL. Sorry about the long explanation, but it's definitely worth to see. Great acting from everyone.
You can see the storyline here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXJAYgvJSY
The other one is a Colombian soap called Niños Ricos Pobres Padres. It's about rich families, and their circle of friends, including their teenage rebelious children. These kids are spoiled, and in the first episode one of the girls got raped. It's mostly about this girl, she is the main character, and the guy who drugged her (the bad guy) and the not so rich, but good guy. The typical soap love triangle. The gay characters are not main characters, and they don't get much screen time, but their storyline is definitely worth checking out. It's about Santiago and his friend Diego, all we've seen up until now is that Diego watched Santiago while he took his shirt off and Santiago freaked out after Diego touched him after they went swimming.
You can see part 1 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJUx19GSMA
None of the videos are subbed. But I'm trying to find someone to help with the translation, and it will be up as soon as it's available.
Harvey Milk: You gotta give 'em hope.