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Interview
with Craig Lucas (page 2)
by Gregg Shapiro, April 21,
2005
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GS:
Another interesting aspect of the play is the take on how refreshing young
love can be. Can you please comment on the combination of young love matched
with the element of musical theater?
CL: Adam (Guettel)’s feeling, which I think is
very interesting, is that in the blossoming of new love, the feeling contains
within it, the loss of that love; so that the feeling is intensely painful
because one is always facing the immediate loss of it. The musical isn’t
so much about young love as it is about what young love opens up for everyone;
those watching it, those who are living through it, those who are looking
forward to it, those who are regretting never having had it, and also
those who are experiencing it. The story is told through four couples
who are at different places in that continuum; from first falling in love
to falling out of love to reinventing love to ending a relationship. The
catalyst, as it were, are the lovers. But it’s as if we wrote Romeo
And Juliet about their parents (laughs) as well as Romeo and
Juliet, as if it were also really about the Capulets and the Montagues
and how their lives were unsettled and rearranged by the young lovers.
GS:
The play also deals with the subject of mothers and daughters. Is that
a subject you like to explore?
CL: I was thrilled to be asked to be part of the piece
because I felt that it addressed letting go of our children and letting
go of your parents in a way that was not clichéd and that I had
not seen dramatized before. Because Clara is both an adult and ready to
be released and also not an adult and not ready to be released, it gets
at that paradigm of that moment when your children are not going to stick
around anymore, but you know that they’re not ready. They’re
going to make terrible mistakes and they may in fact be destroyed. When
you have to let them go to college or go to work or get married or have
sex at whatever age they’re having sex now, (there is) that terrible
fear of “I won’t be able to be there to spare them that hurt.”
And in our world the hurt could actually be fatal. That, I think, is what
it’s about.
GS:
During the rehearsal that I attended, some of the actresses were wearing
these very slim, below the knee skirts and the high heels from the 1950s.
CL: They’re hard to walk in (laughs).
GS:
One actress commented on that. Do you enjoy writing about that period?
CL: It was a time when Americans cared about how they
looked and what the world thought about them. Now, of course, we don’t
care because we just bomb them, is it doesn’t matter what they think
of us because they are already dead. I did enjoy writing about it. I was
too young to experience it as an adult or even a conscious child, but
returning to it, it says so much about the war and those men who went
off to fight and how they all came back. I love the way Elizabeth has
written the husband. There’s no there there. All those men, and
my father was one of them, came back and never spoke of it. They always
did their job and went to work. I think they all made a secret pact that
if they got to their graves without anyone knowing about what they were
feeling then they had succeeded. I find that tragic.
Whereas in
Italy, you can’t be in a room for five minutes without knowing what
everybody’s feeling (laughs), because they’re all shouting.
It’s not the awful Oprah-fication of feelings we are now witnessing.
It’s a cultural respect for passion, which is epitomized in Verdi,
Bocaccio, (Di Lampedusa’s) The Leopard. Italian literature and music
has purified that which is ennobling, as well as that which is debasing
in human emotion.
GS: How does the subject matter of The Light In The Piazza compare
to some of your other recent work?
CL: I am able to steep myself in what I am doing and
I can only do one thing at a time. I wrote The Secret Lives of Dentists
and then I put it away. I just directed the movie of my play The Dying
Gaul, which is, in a sense, the opposite of The Light In The
Piazza, because it is about people whose desire and ambition for
themselves basically destroys everyone around them and also themselves.
It’s a tragedy about people flailing about in quicksand. It’s
so heartening to come to Chicago (laughs) and see something that is kind
of beautiful. Even though I think the ending is ambiguous and not meant
to be purely a release, I think it has some foreboding in it as well;
it’s largely a gratifying experience emotionally. I never saw the
movie. I hear it’s terrible. Even though I hear it’s terrible
I also know people who say it’s their favorite movie (laughs).
GS:
What was the experience of directing your first movie, The Dying Gaul,
like for you?
CL: It was the best experience I’ve ever had, largely
because I had a producer who believed in the project and was willing to
fund it. I had a cinematographer, a gay colleague, who totally got it
and was a full collaborator with me. And I had three of the finest actors
I’ve ever worked with: Campbell Scott, Patty Clarkson and Peter
Sarsgaard, who I believe is going to be the Brando of our generation.
He’s so remarkable in this movie – so completely naked, both
physically and emotionally, and spiritually, it’s going to be profoundly
upsetting to people to see what happens to him in this movie.
GS:
All three of those actors have connections to the world of queer film.
Patricia was in High Art and Far From Heaven, Peter
was in Boys Don’t Cry and Kinsey, and, of course,
Campbell was in Longtime Companion. It’s interesting that
you would be working with those three.
CL: Yes. It’s very much about bisexuality in America
now. It’s about materialism and this desire to have more. Always
more – that there is never enough. As Americans, we are both entitled
and permitted, almost obligated to take more as we see it, to grab it.
Of course, that’s a tragic prospect. It can only create tragedy
as it is proving to create internationally.
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