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AE: No reason to ask you then to choose between Willie Ames and Gary Busey.
ANT: Oh easily. Gary Busey: he’s from planet banana cookoo puffs. I couldn’t date a crazy person-–again.

AE: What about Harvey or Daniel Baldwin?
ANT: Well Daniel Baldwin, the very first season, French kissed me. My first two minutes of meeting him he grabbed me and stuck his tongue so far down my throat he could tell what I had for breakfast.

AE: Oh my God.
ANT: Literally the only reason, Diane, that I kissed back was because it was the closest to Alec Baldwin I was ever gonna get. If you close your eyes they sound alike.

AE: Why did he do that?
ANT: I think he had seen me on TV before and my character’s kind of larger than life so he thought that he could play around like that. He didn’t realize that you just can’t invade someone’s personal space.

AE: So are you a fan of reality TV overall?
ANT: Love it!

AE: You don’t think it’s the death of scripted TV?
ANT: I hope it’s the death of bad scripted television. You don’t see the networks turning out bad sitcoms year after year any more so from that aspect I think it’s been a saving grace.

AE: It’s also a really queer friendly environment.
ANT: Oh every reality show has the obligatory one or two gay character and they let them kiss and they let them sashay or be butch and say what they want. And they always end up inevitably being the most interesting characters on that show. And, the very first mega reality show was Survivor and the winner was a gay person. We can’t forget that. We cannot forget that we have excelled in the genre before everybody else. I look at that totally seriously, Diane, don’t laugh. We excelled in the genre before anybody else. It’s the Olympics for gays.

AE: Do you think now with the boom in gay television with Logo launching--
ANT: They’re airing my standup special in September.

AE: Is that the show you have in development with them?
ANT: I have a different show in development with them an d they also bought my one-hour comedy special. That airs in September and it’s called America’s Ready. And I just shot a pilot called The ANT Project.

AE: What can you tell me about that?
ANT: Um, I can’t tell you anything other than that.

AE: Now that Logo is expanding programming, is there going to be an all-gay reality show in the works?
ANT: I hope so. God, I hope they ask me to host it.

AE: What would your ideal all-queer reality show look like?
ANT: I’d like it to be like eight gays and lesbians on a farm and they have to literally live on a farm and each week they vote one out. But they’ve got to get up and rustle cattle, pick up after the pigs, feed the chicken, run the turbine and all that stuff. Just make it fish out of water –they’d have to be eight urban gay and lesbians who live in loft spaces and stuff.

AE: SoHo gays.
ANT: Yeah. And they have weekly challenges like milking a cow. It seems simple but I tried to do it on a farm and that damn cow wouldn’t let go. It wouldn’t give me any milk whatsoever. Then I rode a horse and it threw me off.

AE: Yeah, the first time I milked a goat it took me like seven hours to get the milking down.
ANT: Because they won’t let go if they sense that you don’t know what you’re doing.

AE: Yeah, my partner grew up on a farm and she can just yank it out.
ANT: Because she walks up with that confidence. I walk up going, “If you kick me, you’re going to be a steak on my dinner plate.”

AE: It’s like the gay bar experience.
ANT: Yeah, if you walk up with confidence--you get served right away.

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