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Interview With Derek Arteta of The Apprentice
by Josh Aterovis, March 8, 2007
AfterElton.com recently spoke to Arteta about his experiences on the show and whether he feels Trump is homophobic. AfterElton.com: Well, you sure went out with a bang! Congrats on adding W.T. for white trash along with the N- and F-words to the list of banned words! AE: Let's talk about the hypocrisy of Trump firing you simply for calling yourself "white trash" when he has said nasty things about people — Rosie O'Donnell, for instance — all the time. I think, in his defense, though — he really is a nice guy, I really liked him a lot — I think he just had a really bad day. As he came in the boardroom, we sensed he was kind of cranky. I thought I could get away with saying that because we had a joking relationship. … For some reason that night, that comment must have hit too close to home for him. AE: Do you think you deserved to be fired over a joke? You didn't seem that upset when you did your exit interview. Were you surprised? Disappointed? I was pretty happy because I went out the way I wanted to go out. I didn't go out because of my work performance; no one had to stab me in the back; and I went out being a smartass, kind of who I am. They edited it out, but once he fired me, I said, "OK, I'm off to get my unemployment check now. See ya!" With Trump, though, it's no surprise to me. Just like in past seasons, you never quite know what he's going to fire you for. One week, he'll fire you for being disloyal to your friends. Another week, he'll fire you for being too loyal to your friends. It's a total crap shoot. Who are his favorites and who are not his favorites? Interestingly enough, for the first six episodes, most people felt I was on OK ground with him because he did joke around with me a lot — mostly about the gay thing, though. AE: After you were fired, Trump went on about how inappropriate it was for you to have said that in the boardroom. Yet only a few minutes before, Trump was congratulating Tim for hooking up with Nicole. Is that proper boardroom conversation to discuss employees' personal lives and to congratulate a man on scoring? I think they just take it so seriously. How can you take it seriously when you have your candidates staying in a tent in the backyard? Talk about white trash! Either play it for what it is, or play it as a job interview. If it's going to be a job interview, then everyone should stay in the house, there should be no romance and if there is, you should fire people for having a romance. AE: It reminded me of how he came out and asked Carey if he was gay in front of everyone. Again, not exactly professional. What were your thoughts on that? When I first got cast, before I went on the show, I was reading his book — I forget which book it was — because I didn't know anything about him. It was written in the early '80s, and he was talking about his lawyer/good friend who was openly gay. Trump was talking about how he loved the guy and he was his best friend, and I was like, wow! That's respectful that in the early '80s, Trump could write a book where he's talking about embracing one of his good friends who is gay. So I was like, well, he can't be homophobic. Even on the show, Trump would joke around with me about the gay issue. He seemed comfortable with it. He wasn't uncomfortable with the idea of having gay employees, I don't believe. We were at the Playboy Mansion and I was in the grotto with two half-naked girls, and he walks back there and says, "Hey ladies, you have nothing to worry about with Derek." [Laughs.] It was just that kind of joking relationship. He didn't know about me until we went to dinner at Spago and he asked about my wife or girlfriend, and I told him, "I used to have a boyfriend." It kind of threw him for a loop and I said, "I'm gay, Mr. Trump." And he said, "Oh, so Ivanka does nothing for you?" I said, "No, not really." I was about to say, "No, but Don Junior does," but I decided that wouldn't be appropriate. |
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