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Interview
with Kathe Koja (page 2)
by Gregg Shapiro, March 17,
2005
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AE:
The word “talk” takes on multiple meanings in the book. First,
it is the title of the novel, second it is the title of the play, and
finally, as a verb it is a central action to the book.
KK: We use much more than words when we talk: we speak
with our body language, our silences, the little nonverbal gestures that
everyone understands. We also use words to conceal what we mean; we use
words as weapons; we use words as shelters and shields. All of this went
into my idea of what constitutes "talk."
AE:
Speaking of “talk,” there is something of a turning point
at the center of the novel. At the top of page 69, Kit asks “Is
this The Talk?,” in reference to the potential coming out talk he
may be having with his parents.
KK: Any kind of serious discussion--especially with
authority figures--involves a balance of power, a sense of who gets to
say what to whom, and what response can be made (or even attempted). When
love is added to the equation, when the discussion is between parent and
child, a whole different power structure comes into being. We want our
parents' approval so atavistically because we feel at some deep level
that without it, without the protection that approval represents, we will
die. We won't--and we don't--but it can feel that way, as if our whole
self is at stake. So speaking to a parent about something as deep as coming
out--even a parent we love and trust, as Kit loves and trusts his folks
(and they him)--can be a walk through a minefield, for both sides, with
only words as stepping-stones.
AE:
At the bottom of page 69, there is more “talk”: “‘It’s
no surprise to me,’
he (Kit’s father) says to me, as if he’s saying two things
at once, the lines behind the lines.”
KK: Again, the talk they're having--and not-having, and
having non-verbally--is dependant on more than just words. And with a
dad and a son, there's the whole definition-of-masculinity subtext bubbling
underneath as well.
AE:
You raise a very powerful question at the top of p. 113, where, following
a homophobic encounter, Kit asks “What kind of world has people
like Blake in
it, people who hate me?”
KK: All I can do is ask the question along with Kit: What kind of world
harbors this hatred? Is that the kind of world we want?
AE:
There is a wonderful resolution at the end of the novel, particularly
at the bottom of page 132, where Kit says, “I wanted to lose myself
in a play, didn’t I? become someone else? And then I turned into
me, for real.”
KK: I could have imagined no sweeter success for Kit than for him to become
exactly who he always was inside. And I believe art--- art that we make,
art that we read or watch or perform, art deep enough to immerse ourselves,
lose ourselves, in--- can be a great and joyful catalyst for change: in
ourselves, and in our world.
AE:
Have you started work on your next novel?
KK: I have; I've finished it! It's another YA novel, called Are You Experienced?,
and will be published by FSG in the fall of 2006.
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