Ask the Flying Monkey (November 04, 2008)Q: The concept of "fanservice" and its popularity in Asian countries confuses me. I always imagined Asia being rather conservative and homophobic. Has this somehow changed? Nowadays, it seems normal to see members of popular boy bands and the like cuddling and flirting with each other in public to get responses from fans. Cross-dressing seems quite common too. Visual kei (a subgenre of Japanese rock) bands are known to have members make out on stage during concerts as well, much to the delight of their fans. - Tim A: Fanservice, for those not as knowledgeable as the Monkey, is the term they use in Japanese anime and manga animation to describe a scene of gratuitous sexuality or titillation. But Tim, you’re absolutely right when you say it also describes a phenomenon sweeping Asian music as well.
An example of Japanese anime gay fanservice And it must be an indication that Asian cultures have been radically transformed in recent years and are now much more tolerant of GLBT folks, right? Alas, while things in Asia are undoubtedly much better than in the past, the Monkey’s sources in Singapore, China, Japan, and Hong Kong report that things are still not anywhere near as tolerant as in Europe or most “blue” states in the U.S. But how can this be? What about all those cross-dressing singers and kissing band members? Weirdly, all this cross-dressing and same-sex affection is consigned almost exclusively to stages and between the pages of comic books. One Monkey friend described it thusly: “Anime is fantasy. It’s not real life. It’s not anything like real life. No one thinks it is. It’s still extremely homophobic.” Still, the Monkey believes this is an important step on the road to tolerance — a sort of unconscious cultural testing of the water on the part of the younger generation, who always lead the way in social change. Glam rock in the 70s and Boy George-like androgyny in the 80s didn’t mean that Britain and the U.S. were yet ready to fully embrace GLBT people. But they planted important seeds in demystifying gender issues and, thirty years later, here we are. Q: I saw Equus on Broadway a few weeks ago. I enjoyed my front row seats, needless to say, but I was enthralled by the entire production. The gay undertones plus the nudity reminded me of how much I enjoyed another play with gay "not so under" tones and even more nudity, Take Me Out. At one point, I thought I read that plans were underway for the movie version. Am I mistaken? What's the status? – Jerry
Broadway productions of Equus (left) & Take Me Out A: Ben Affleck, who had previously been attached to another gay baseball project called The Dreyfus Affair, optioned the property in 2003, intending to play one of the straight characters. But since then, the project has languished. It might still be in development somewhere, but the Monkey cautions you not to look for Take Me Out in theaters any time soon. Incidentally, we just published a particularly terrific article on male nudity on stage that you should totally check out. And as for those "gay undertones" you detected in Equus? Good ear! The playwright, Peter Schaffer, is an out gay man. Have a question about gay male entertainment? Ask the Monkey!
Submitted by on Mon, 2008-11-03 23:44. You May Have Something There on Family Bands. . .Submitted by
TheFabulousThomasJ (850 points) (192 posts) on Tue, 2008-11-04 06:14.. . . Lord knows for a time there in the early 1970's, I would have given my eye teeth to be in the Partridge family, and not my own. Too much drama, Mama, and not enough rock-and-roll. . . Turning JapaneseSubmitted by
David Ehrenstein (7805 points) (1725 posts) on Tue, 2008-11-04 13:03.The Japanese appetite for All Things Gay is humungous. Maurice was a monster hit in Japan. And the major part of the financing for My Own Private Idaho came from Japan -- where the film world premiered before the U.S. Yes, fans, MOPI is a Japanese film!
Hey don't forget his "James Dean"!Submitted by
David Ehrenstein (7805 points) (1725 posts) on Tue, 2008-11-04 14:22.That makes THREE gay roles for James Franco. If he wants a fourth he's FAR more than merely welcome to join the Reality Series that is my life.
Sean Griffin has a greatSubmitted by
Knickie (4010 points) (818 posts) on Tue, 2008-11-04 15:14.Sean Griffin has a great book on gayness and Disney called "Tinker Belles and Evil Queens." He covers the films -- and Pumbaa and Timon -- as well as the theme parks, television, and the role of out creative people in every area. The book predates the "Pirates" films and Capt. Jack Sparrow, so it's due for an update. This is a must book.
If anyone's gay in Pocahontas, it's ThomasSubmitted by
Mister 2 (749 points) (148 posts) on Wed, 2008-11-05 01:09.Fawning over John Smith, paralleled with Pocahontas' betrothed in the "caught in the act" scene, and (hopefully) providing a shoulder for John Smith when he gets dumped for the tobacco salesman in Poca2.Lexington from their Gargoyles tv show has been confirmed by the show's creator as gay. (I've posted links in the last couple Ryan threads)And I still think that Country Bears movie some years back was queer. Yeah, you've got Christopher Walken camping it up... the metaphor of Bears... one of the Bears rooming with Elton John... and few things point to performative gender as the sight of two bears singing a duet with only the country stars dubbing the voices really indicating who's the him and her.
The Front Runner keeps on runningSubmitted by
Insideguy (2490 points) (496 posts) on Wed, 2008-11-05 02:24.Paul Newman hired Oscar winning screenwriter and novelist, Jeremy Larner (The Candidate)to adapt the novel. Then Director Frank Perry and his then wife,screenwriter, Elanor, took on the project. When a screenplay is put into turnaround the seller has to erecoup their costs in the seller thus increasing the expense of producing a film. Next it went to out producer Howard Rosenman (Ressurection, Father of the Bride)who passed it on to another gay man, who took out full page ads in the trade papers listing all the actors who had played gay from Charlie Chaplin to, at that point, William Hurt, and included the likes of Robert Redford (Inside Daisy Clover) and Rex Harrison and Richard Burton (Staircase). Is it still a viable project or passe given the coming out of Greg Louganis and Matthew Mitchum. And who could or would take up the mantle to produce it, out producers Bruce Cohen and Dan Jenks (American Beauty)or out producer Scott Rudin (The Hours. Perhaps an out directors like Adam Shankman, or Joel Schumacher, or even the debuting director Tom Ford, if A SINGLE MAN is a success. Only time and Patricia Nell Warren can tell us.
INSIDEGUY oh pleaseSubmitted by
justme (205 points) (42 posts) on Fri, 2008-11-07 09:41.Asian countries are quite the homophobic. I should know, I live in Asia.
However, its true that some younger people are beginning to question the discrimination.
Mostly girls though. Guys here are terribly homophobic. No violence that I've heard of though, but then again school violence doesnt generally take place here, for whatever reason. Mostly i mean.
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