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Ask the Flying Monkey! (April 15, 2008)

Chenoweth was raised Southern Baptist, but now describes herself as a “liberal Christian” and attends a non-denominational church in Malibu. That said, she has been very clear about the importance of her faith and did, in fact, appear on Pat Robertson’s TV show The 700 Club to promote a Christian-themed CD.

“I wasn’t thinking about what it represents,” Chenoweth later told the New York Times, describing the appearance as a mistake. “I guess I was living in a little bit of a bubble, and I was surprised that it upset so many people. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn’t go, because I don’t agree with that antigay stuff. I don’t understand what the big deal is with gay marriage. Get over it, people.”

Truthfully, Terry, the same way Chenoweth doesn’t understand the opposition to same-sex marriage, I’ve never understood religion. When I was a kid at Catholic grade school, the nuns would talk about this guy called Jesus who “spoke” to them, and they’d say all these patently ridiculous things like, “It’s really important that Mary was a mother and a virgin.”

And I’d think to myself, “Are you people all nuts?”

But in college, I got in a long argument with my then-best friend about the existence of God, saying belief in God was both (a) completely illogical, and (b) didn’t answer any of the questions of the universe anyway, just pushed them back onto a supposedly argument-ending “God.” (“Okay, God created the universe,” I’d allow. “Who created God?”)

I eventually “won” the argument with my friend, and I felt proud of myself…for about a day. Then I watched as she had a crisis of faith. Belief in God and being a Christian was important to her; it was a fundamental part of her being, at least as much as my being gay was a fundamental part of me. And I realized that I’d been a real horse’s ass to assume that what was right for me, the way I saw the universe, was necessarily right for everyone else. None of us is ruled by pure reason; we all live with illogical, inconsistent beliefs and wild leaps of faith. And I realized that what people believe does not concern me and is none of my business anyway. What might concern me, and what I can have an opinion about, is how they behave, especially toward me.

The delightful and enormously talented Chenoweth is a friend of gays, and I’m a big fan. Her religious beliefs make no sense to me whatever, but they seem to work for her, so more power to her!

P.S. I was kidding about Keanu Reeves, above. Will that mean more flames?

Q: I recently heard about a new documentary called A Jihad for Love [2007], which is about how gay and lesbians reconcile, or not, their sexuality and their Muslim faith. I have always been interested in how other cultures, religion, etc., deal with homosexuality. Have you heard about it? Seen it? If so, what’s your take on it? And is it going to have a wider release? — Erick, Guatemala City, Guatemala

A: First, why does every “Eric” insist on spelling his name differently? Wouldn’t it confuse you if I suddenly decided to spell my name “Brentt”? Let’s find some consistency, shall we? Talk to “Erik” up in question #2, figure out a standard, and get back to me, okay?

As for Jihad, I haven’t seen it, and I confess I find Islam only slightly more interesting than Christianity. But I agree the movie sounds worthwhile. In the coming months, it will be playing at a number of film festivals and at New York’s IFC Film Center on May 21st.

Basically, a wide release depends on how these initial screenings are received, but the producers tell me that a 2009 DVD release is likely.

Have a question about gay male entertainment? Ask the Monkey!

 

afhickman's picture

Klaatu barada nicto! (or, in the demotic, Keanu Rules!)

afhickman

"It takes a village (to make Village People)"

You admit to being a "horse's ass" for telling your friend that there is no Jesus (unless this whole argument was about a pool boy, in which case you can disregard the following post), but you fail to see how hurtful it is when you deny Keanu to your blog-mates. Whether he is playing Buddha or The One (or Klaatu, in a blockbuster remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" that will NOT be ruined by the stunt-casting of scene-stealing imp Jaden Smith) or a host of other Messiahs, he is real, and if you invite him into your life, you will be born again. I am not speaking only in the spiritual sense (wink, nudge). And I don't think I need remind you what those "flames" are really all about. Now, say two "Whoa! Marys" and call me in the morning.
Brent Hartinger's picture

This is hilarious: "Now, say

This is hilarious: "Now, say two "Whoa! Marys" and call me in the morning." Read my books! Explore "Brent's Brain" at http://www.brenthartinger.com
Terence Steiner's picture

Thank you, Brent, for answering my question.

It's good to know I can now be best friends with Kristin Chenoweth, have lunch and make plans to work together in the near future. What offends me is that Christian whose attitude is that they can love me (the sinner), but hate my sins (what I do with my penis). I not only want to be one with my sins - I want to relish in them. But I digress - your story about leading your friend to have a crisis in her faith is one to always remember. Thanks again!
Brent Hartinger's picture

You're very welcome!

Read my books! Explore "Brent's Brain" at http://www.brenthartinger.com
db's picture

Kristin Chenoweth

Terence, I'm glad you asked about her too.  I actually met her when she sang at a friend's birthday party.  She is definitely not homophobic.  She's very gay positive.  If I'm not mistaken she even stopped singing at the Eagle Forum (which she had done since she was a child) because of their anti-gay policies.
Aloe's picture

Leo

Actually Leo was outed by Craig Chester back in the day who said that Leo wanted to come out of the closet but that his management wouldn't let him.
BobbyBaby's picture

Thanks for the Xena love!

I am so happy that you showed the love for Xena's "The Bitter Suite" which I always felt was vastly superior to "Once More with Feeling" and predated it by 3 years! I think the acclaim for "Once More" is due to Joss Wheedon worship (and he is truly awesome), but Xena, Gabrielle and Co. deserve the credit for the revived interest in musical episodes, which I have to agree are now a little too frequent. It only works for certain shows.
nordic balance's picture

Put on your flame-retardant knickers there BRENT!

Actually I'm not that pissed, but here we go....

Once More With Feeling is indeed the gold standard for musical epsiodes of shows. Not that musical episodes number that many, but there you go.

And no, some of the actors weren't great singers. But that's not what the episode was about. It was about the characters revealing some of their deepest held secrets to each others as themselves -- not as pop ready singers in the latest Lloyd-Webber extravaganza.

Also, contrary to what you seem to believe, the episode DID advance (through song) some very important story lines along -- Buffy's true feelings about "being back", Xander and Anya's marriage doubts, Spike's depth of feeling for Buffy, and Gile's worries that he'd somehow failed Buffy.  Finally, the last few moments launched Buffy and Spike into their tumultuous sexual relationship.

Add to the above some of the wittiest and yet dramatic moments of the show's run and you have one of television's finest and most original hours.

Ok, off my soap-box now.

Don't trouble yourself Doctor -- I'm a celebrity, I'll write my own prescription.

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Brent Hartinger's picture

Eh...

It's Joss Whedan, and all he can come up with is a demon who makes people sing show-tunes? For the record, Buffy had long since shown her true feelings about being back, they'd covered Xander's marriage doubts AD NASEUM, and Buffy and Spike's sexual relationship had been building for episodes. It was reheated Buffy from the back of the refrigerator, lesser Whedan at best. (Sorry, I can't resist poking the hornet's nest!) ;-) Read my books! Explore "Brent's Brain" at http://www.brenthartinger.com
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Mike Wong's picture

Being called out...

Am I ever glad that someone put down words so elegantly that were so similar to my thoughts. It's one thing to not like something due to personal taste, but it's another for misinformation, which this writer/site has be incessently doing recently. And frankly, getting kinda bored of it. I do love what the site has to offer and what it stands for. But come on, the incessent misinformation is seriously turning me off.

By the way, "Once More With Feeling" was not *just* a gimmick (if you INSIST on calling it that). It moves storylines forward, show character motivations/thoughts/depths. And it ultimately led to the giant reveal of where Buffy *really* was before she was brought back. Before then, she confided that sort of information only to Spike. This was the first big reveal to the group which changes the dynamic of the whole group and their relationships. This episode was one way for Buffy to reveal her inner feelings for otherwise, she wouldn't have.

That sort of exposition/reveal was bound to happen one way or another. Instead of making it melodramatic or clichéd, Joss did something different. So no, this episode was not a gimmick to me. As for the singing, they are actors, not singers. Sarah Michelle Gellar was going to get a voice double for the songs, but she CHOSE to sing them as the episode was so emotionally rich. And mind you, for not being a singer, she did a very good job. As for the songs, that comes down to personal taste, obviously. I personally loved them, and Brent didn't, and that's okay. But please do not misinform readers by simply calling it a "gimmick". Thank you.

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nordic balance's picture

One more go (with feeling) and we'll call it a day

Brent Hartinger wrote:
Buffy had long since shown her true feelings about being back
Buffy had only told Spike her feelings about being back, not to the group as a whole.
Brent Hartinger wrote:
they'd covered Xander's marriage doubts AD NASEUM
But not Anya's.
Brent Hartinger wrote:
Buffy and Spike's sexual relationship had been building for episode
But Once More... was where they stopped talking and started acting on it.

But I forgive you since you're dripping in tasty pop-culture knowledge and take the time to share it with others.

Cheers. 

Don't trouble yourself Doctor -- I'm a celebrity, I'll write my own prescription.

j U d E's picture

P.S. I was kidding about Keanu Reeves, above.

I knew it! Something just looked completely wrong in this sentence:

Quote:
A: There are certain celebrities — Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler, Keanu Reeves — that are so talented and cast such a large presence that it seems literally impossible to imagine them not becoming huge stars.

*LOL*

  • R.I.P. - Heath Ledger [1979 - 2008] - beautiful Matilda!
Knickie's picture

Why do they insist on

Why do they insist on remaking movies that are already PERFECT? "Day the Earth Stood Still"??? WTF? Back in the day I went to a screening Robert Wise gave at my college and he talked about making "Day" and all that. Of course, I had to go up to him afterwards and GUSH about "Star!" But he was very gracious anyway!
afhickman's picture

Pass the popcorn, Gort

afhickman

"It takes a village (to make Village People)"

I too met the ubiquitous (and now late) Mr. Wise, at a news conference in Bangkok.  We talked about "Star Trek" and "The Set-Up."  Neither "The Day" nor "Sound of Music" came up.  But I don't understand.  Can you honestly look around at the state the world today and claim we DON'T need a visit from superior beings from outer space warning us to clean up our act?  It might help put a few things in perspective.  Hello?  Dying planet.  Rampant consumerism.  Religious fanatics run amok (I'm talking about YOU, Texas).  Bill and Ted hitching a ride on the Tardis (that's an anagram for Astrid, by the way) isn't going to cut it this time.  We need a hero (and he's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast and he's gotta be fresh from the fight).  Who better than Keanu/Klaatu to mount that fiery steed (not to mention revive Bonnie Tyler's moriibund career)?  If ever there was a movie that begged to be remade, this is it.

Pantzini's picture

On religion

I liked your take on religion.

However, you have to admit that homophobia mostly come from religious people (but not all religious people are homophobic) and that almost every religious doctrine speaks against homosexuality (even buddhism, which is quite a godless philophical religion, considers it as a "sexual misconduct").

When homophobia is based on pseudo-scientific assumptions, it can eventually be dismissed by science; but when the prejudice is based on faith, everything seems justified.

So we're entitled to question a person's faith as much as our behaviour is questioned on a daily basis. If a person has a crisis of faith just beacause he/she talks to a nonbeliever, it means that faith is pretty much a lie. It can make you happy when you conform to its standards (or it conforms to yours), but it's still a lie.