Best. Gay. Week. Ever. (July 18, 2008)Next Week's Television On Sunday, ABC kicks off High School Musical: Get in the Picture. The affable Nick Lachey and a panel of talent scouts host open casting calls for 16-22 year olds with a theatrical bent to discover the next Zac Efron or Ashley Tisdale. Or something like that. Anyway, once they get through the casting calls and whittle things down a bit, finalists will participate in a summer music program to hone their skills, all on location at the same Utah high school where the first High School Musical movie was filmed. Oh joy. This one's gonna be as gay as your high school drama club. Count on Efron himself to put in a guest appearance on the show at some point.
Nick Lachey hosts High School Musical: Get in the Picture On Wednesday, Sordid Lives: The Series premieres on the Logo network. If, like me, you were a fan of the original film, then you're gonna love this adaptation, which assembles most of the original film's cast, with the exception of Delta Burke (who is here ably replaced by Caroline Rhea). And coming aboard for the series is former Golden Girl Rue McLanahan. This one is definitely worth checking out. We'll have a full review next week.
The cast of Sordid Lives: The Series Well folks, that's about for this edition. Brent Hartinger will be handling the column next Friday. In the meantime, have yourself the BEST. GAY. WEEK. EVER! Submitted by on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:49. Am I Blue?Submitted by
afhickman (3762 points) (779 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 05:10.afhickman "It takes a village (to make Village People)" One of my favorite hustler films is 1992's "Die Blaue Stunde" ("The Blue Hour"), which features Andreas Hereder as Theo, a call boy who finds love in an unexpected place. Sixteen years later, a 40-ish Herder looks like this:
Broken Link?Submitted by
duckiestoy (1340 points) (296 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 05:45.I clicked the link to read about the 2007 coming out of one of the History Boys but it was broken.
WesleySubmitted by
Cecily (105 points) (25 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 06:14.I can't believe the guys at AE don't like Wesley! I think he's absolutely charming, and what are you talking about? He can definitely pull off those shorts, I think they look great on him. :)
only speaking for myselfSubmitted by
Hey Cecily!
Oh I like Wesley fine, but the shorts? It's hard to take him seriously. But that's just me. The guys of AE often disagree on things though. I don't speak for Michael or Brian or anyone else
Of course. :) I wasSubmitted by
Cecily (105 points) (25 posts) on Sat, 2008-07-19 04:22.Of course. :) I was referring to the recap of the first ep, where Brian seemed, well, not so impressed by him.
"Before I Forget"Submitted by
afhickman (3762 points) (779 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 09:10.afhickman "It takes a village (to make Village People)" Stephanie Zacharek has written a lovely tribute to this film on Salon.com. I have the link: http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2008/07/18/forget/index.html I adore "Before I Forget"! It's The "Feel Bad" movie of the yearSubmitted by
David Ehrenstein (7805 points) (1725 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:06.And you don't have to be a hustler, or HIV+ to appreciate it, or realize that what Nolot is showing you is what y'all have to expect as Tim'es Wing-ed wastebasket (As Gore Vidal calls it) hovers ever-closer. Besides, the Dish alone is FABULOUS! Nolot was Roland Barthes' boyfriend before Roland dumped him for a younger model named Andre Techine. As for NPHSubmitted by
David Ehrenstein (7805 points) (1725 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:08.He doesn't just rule the web. HE RULES THE WORLD!
Mikey V and the Mincing DancersSubmitted by
wagville (865 points) (179 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:33.Sounds like a new Sid and Marty Krofft show, doesn't it? I'm surprised that the link you gave "outing" Mikey V didn't go for the juicier gayness in his past. That was what made the story so amusing to me -- it ROPED me in! I understand your point about closeted male dancers, but unfortunately they are in a similar spot to leading-man movie stars; they have to be perceived as interested in their female lead, or their work doesn't go over. Unless the partner work you're choreographing is boy-boy (and believe me, a lot of boys would sign on for that number), the boy-girl partnership is very delineated in its gender roles -- more specifically, how men dance and how women dance. As a dancer and a choreographer, I didn't have a problem with it . . . it just doesn't read right in a male-female dance if the guy is dancing soft. Male dancers have heard this since the beginning of time: "I don't care what you do offstage. Just dance strong when you're on it." I don't we're gonna stop hearing it anytime soon. The tricky part -- which only becomes an issue when there's a show like SYTYCD where the dancers are given individual visibility -- is that the gay boys fear losing votes if the tween girls dialing the numbers don't think they're "available." It then becomes a question of whether Tom Cruise or Cheyenne Jackson would get more votes on the show. If you follow my drift.
Follow my drift to the blog. The blog dances like a boy but sleeps with them too. Nigel Lythgow--Waqville, while I agree with you as far asSubmitted by
db (3185 points) (662 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 14:58.this particular competition and the partnering it entails. There are a lot of gay male dancers who partner very well and though for the competition it may help them get votes to keep it a secret it also maintains the status quo of homophobia in public perception. My real problem with Nigel is his humiliation of certain dancers especially in the early auditions. He actually seemed to blame one of the dancers for the phobic reaction of fathers (like his own) to their son's dancing. There are dance companies where male dancers can be more flamboyant--he could tell these dancers that this competition might not be right for them (like they sometimes do on American Idol when the auditioner is talented but not quite right for this specific competition). He, in essense, blames flamboyant gay men for the homophobia of people like his father rather than his father and those who are similarly bigoted. That's the real problem I have with Nigel. Interestingly, I was just watching "Hear My Voice" a documentary about the making of a tribute album for "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" which was a benefit for Harvey Milk High School in which GLBT teens talk about their lives and the abuse they face. I think Nigel's attitude perpetuates some of this. I wish he could get away from his own experience a bit and offer a bit more understanding. Why on earth aren't you lotSubmitted by
Jane (160 points) (32 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:36.Why on earth aren't you lot covering Dr. Horrible's Sing-a-long blog??? www.drhorrible.com
NPH is seriously rocking every single scene, not to mention the songs. So he's out, proud, in a relationship, starring in a tvshow, does musicals and has a great voice for it. Reminds you of anyone? LOL
Maybe Americans really got themselves their very own John Barrowman... If only NPH was equally slutty :P And I say it with all the affection. I love how Barrowman snogs everyone around :P
Oh but we are!Submitted by
Brian Juergens (1205 points) (6471 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 10:43.Dennis covers Dr. Horrible in this very column and we've mentioned numerous times on the blog as well. We love us some NPH!
Gay DancersSubmitted by
Sir Andrew (62 points) (9 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 11:49.There was, at the very least, one out gay guy on SYTYCD, Thane, who was dropped last week, admitted to being gay in an interview with Us Weekly's James Vituscka. The rest said they were straight or didn't answer at all.
Thanks for bringing this bit of news to the site. A+Submitted by
Guillermo Serri... (3151 points) (817 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 17:43.Maybe it will be a sign of things to come as being able to deliver and sexual orientation are not mutually exclusive. These dancers are constantly being asked to play characters, but to address them from "honest" place, I assume that gay contestant will do his best if he does not have to hide an integral part of who he is.
Great get! Guillermo's Media Guillotine: Entertainment, journalism, politics, and popular culture. Thayne did?Submitted by
wagville (865 points) (179 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 12:46.OMG! I Just Watched Mysterious SkinSubmitted by
Dean (15 points) (6 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 13:14.Newby here and I was just checking out what has happened this week when I read about this movie Mysterious Skin, looked it up and it's available online. I was not at all prepared for what the movie was but am so grateful for the experience. It was phenomenal! The writing, the acting save for Michelle Trachtenberg and the story, all great. It was funny, heartbreaking and I hate to even admit it but even erotic. Wow! I was just blown away. Thanks afterelton for leading me to this film. Now I'm going to check out the author of the book that inspired it. Also, can't wait to go see the Dark Knight this weekend!
SYTYCD AustraliaSubmitted by
Alfred (445 points) (95 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 19:19.We got an openly gay dancer who made it to the grand final (I voted too). His name is Rhys and he's fabulous! He was totally himself on stage - even though he didn't say he was gay, but his outfit and appearance during result nights just gave it all away. And when asked if he was being himself, his answer was, "How much more of myself could I be?". Go Rhys!
Lythgoe is just plain patheticSubmitted by
Cinematt01 (172 points) (32 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 20:55.He has made it virtually impossible for me to watch. I loathe this expression but the best way I can describe him is a total douche. He spends the majority of his time trying to convince everyone he's straight but seriously, is there any gay man out there who would want him to be gay? The very thought of it made me throw up a little bit.
R. ToveySubmitted by
bugchicklv (80 points) (16 posts) on Fri, 2008-07-18 20:57.He was also in the Being Human pilot--a Vampire, a Werewolf and a Ghost become roommates (and doesn't that sound like the first line of a joke?)--he's the Werewolf.
Supposedly the BBC picked it up. With any luck, he's still starring. He's the reason I fell in love with it!
The gloves are offSubmitted by
afhickman (3762 points) (779 posts) on Sat, 2008-07-19 04:58.afhickman "It takes a village (to make Village People)" Well apart from Captain Hammer's gay groupie and Dr. Horrible's wardrobe (which is straight out of James Whale), this really wasn't very innovative. I can't see where Whedon could possibly take the story. It's more like an attenuated SNL sketch. That being said, Neil Patrick Harris is letter-perfect as the Doc; his double takes and dead-pan facial expressions are the funniest thing in the film. Fillion's Captain Hammer is a one-joke character, and the point about his hypocrisy is "hammered" home early on. Episode 3 was a major yawn. Of course, I felt the same way about "Serenity." Whedon's audience had good reason to root for Buffy, especially with the charismatic Sarah Michelle Geller in the lead. "Dr. Horrible," by contrast, is one joke stretched terribly thin. NPH can do little to save it. Anyone else?NIgel LithgoweSubmitted by
David E is a Fraud! (315 points) (162 posts) on Sat, 2008-07-19 12:56.I think Dennis Ayers was too harsh in his personal attacks on Nigel Lythgoe. Mr. Ayers was so persistent in emphasizing his personal agenda that there be "out" contestants on the show, that he blinded himself to Lythgoe's attitude that sexual preference didn't matter in the slightest. It is a very rare occasion when a male dancer is called upon to be 'mincy' onstage. Lythgoe is simply stating what he (and *many* other choreographers) need to see in a male dancer's performance. Very much like a director would do when casting a male leading actor. I doubt very much that Mr. Ayers would find Chris Crocker to be a convincing 'Indiana Jones', yet I also doubt he would be so insulting to Spielberg for not casting Crocker in the role. Stating that male dancers should be masculine appearing does not in any way indicate that Lythgoe is fearful of homosexuals or 'prissy' dancers. Those male dancers who can't portray masculinity onstage (or a variety of other characteristics) *should* be weeded out of the competition, IMO. Note, too that Lythgoe never indicated that any dancer should stay in the closet or hide their 'offstage' personna. He was never asked about that by Ayers. He was simply bludgeoned with Mr. Ayers' personal agenda for outing any gay contestants. IMO, Nigel's responses were completely professional and protective of the contestants' personal choices to 'out' themselves or not. He only indicated what he expected at a *performance* level and indicated *very* clearly that any contestant's sexual preference was of no importance whatsoever to him. It's one thing to speak up (as an individual) and say, "I'm gay" to offer oneself as a role model (if it can be helpful). It's very different (and IMO childishly insecure) to *insist* that all people announce their sexuality to the world. What purpose does that serve other than to emphasize a ridiculously false message that an individual's sexual practices define who they are? To my mind, Lythgoe is the greater role model in this situation for not allowing himself to be bullied by Mr. Ayers' personal agenda and for insisting that sexual preference was not an issue. "It's curtains for you, Dr. Horrible. Lacy, wafting curtains..." <a href="http://www.drhorrible.com"><img src="http://www.drhorrible.com/images/banners/banner.gif" border="0">&l Harsh maybe. Bully? No.Submitted by
Hey Sibelius, While it is certainly fair to decide that I was too harsh on Nigel Lythgoe, please be assured I have NO personal agenda for outing anyone. Ever. I'm really bummed if that was your takeaway from my column. I simply would not do that. Of course people should be able to come out (or not) in their own time and in their own manner. I just think it's regrettable if certain contestants on SYTYCD feel like their success on the show depends upon their staying in the closet. Harsh--I don't think soSubmitted by
db (3185 points) (662 posts) on Sun, 2008-07-20 01:35.I don't think you're too harsh on this Mr. Ayers. Though Nigel can claim that the sexual orientation of the dancers doesn't matter, history disproves him. While we know that Gev supposedly wanted his partner (as Nigel kept insisting) we don't get to hear about any gay male attaction that might be going on (and I see signs that look a little bit like attraction to me at the end of the show or when the dancers are standing being judged). Nigel and the show seem to be actively keeping any information about any gay dancers out of the show--we only find out in later interviews that Thayne is gay, but we get to find out when the dancers are supposedly straight, and Nigel makes really creepy comments to prove he's straight. Apologies...Submitted by
David E is a Fraud! (315 points) (162 posts) on Wed, 2008-07-23 12:42....for the "personal agenda for outing any gay contestants" line. That was not well thought out on my part and an incorrect statement to make.
-Sibelius "It's curtains for you, Dr. Horrible. Lacy, wafting curtains..." Thanks SibeliusSubmitted by
Apology definitely accepted and really appreciate you making it. As for your other point about being too harsh on Lythgoe- I've been thinking about that a lot this past week and maybe I was. I do think his seeming preoccupation with male dancers' masculinity (much more so than any of the other judges) makes the show itself seem inhospitable to gays. It would be great if the occasional gay male contestant came out of the closet while competing on the show - if only to see whether it helps or hurts them in the public voting process. I'd like to believe it wouldn't hurt them - but of course that's their judgment call to make. WordsSubmitted by
netogeno (3127 points) (859 posts) on Sun, 2008-07-20 16:16.Whether a man is masculine or not for a performance is not the point. Words are a dime a dozen. You can say them and not mean them or you can say them believing you mean them, even if you dont. But actions speak louder than words. An in this case Mr. Lithgoes actions dont entirely support his statement of not caring one way or the other about someones sexuality. There are different levels and manifestations of homophobia and Mr. Lithgoe seems to present some. And I think its absolutetly right to be called on them and have an opinion about it, even where they could come from. And if I remember correctly, the question he was answering was about featuring out gay men (and that means already out gay men), which is a valid question for a judge of one of these shows that are suggested to supress any gay connection among its contestants. There is a very big difference between coming out , or not, for yourself and not being allowed to. As I understand it, nobody was asking anybody to come out, so where is this "agenda" of outing you speak of? Midnight CowboySubmitted by
David E is a Fraud! (315 points) (162 posts) on Sat, 2008-07-19 13:38.In your section on Midnight Cowboy, you wrote: "Okay, so Cowboy doesn't make the gay relationship bewtween Voight's Joe Buck and Hoffman's Ratso Rizzo completely explicit, but it drops a hell of a lot of hints." It's been a while (decades, in fact), so I'll have to go back and re-watch but as I remember it, the movie wasn't explicit because there was no explicit, gay relationship between Buck and Ratso. In the film version, Buck was a very naive, heterosexual man who attempts sex with another male character in the movie for the money only. It is clear in the movie that Joe is not getting pleasure from the encounter and that he is thinking of a woman the whole time. In the movie, his character turns out to be a compassionate, heterosexual male. Not necessarily in love with, or desirous of Ratso - he just ends up showing love and compassion towards him because of the platonic relationship that develops between a straight man and a gay man.
-Sibelius "It's curtains for you, Dr. Horrible. Lacy, wafting curtains..." ![]() More Midnight CowboySubmitted by
nordic balance (not verified) on Sat, 2008-07-19 16:39.Sibelius - I agree with you about the relationship of Buck and Rizzo. Just because one guy is compassionate towards another, even in a close, really caring way, it says nothing about the sexual relationship, whether overt or not, between them. I think we as gay people make a huge mistake if we read underlying sexuality into things like that. A lot of straight guys go out of their way to avoid emotional connections with other guys, or expressions of caring, simply because they don't want their sexuality questioned. Fortunately, that sort of thing is slowly changing in some parts of the younger generation, but it's still very prevalent. I don't think we help matters much if we read latent homosexuality into things like that.
Wow, have u even watched SYTYCD Sibelious?Submitted by
Cinematt01 (172 points) (32 posts) on Sat, 2008-07-19 19:56.It's not that Lythgoe feels a male dancer should be masculine that makes him a homophobic a$$ - it's the way he treats gay people on his shows. He constantly makes fun of gays (both directly and indirectly) and has been known to enforce an atmosphere of intolerance behind the scenes of both of his shows. Then has the nerve to blatantly lie about it when he's confronted. We need more people willing to hold homophobes accountable for their actions. Making excuses for them or turning a blind eye certainly doesn't help.
Hustler FIlmsSubmitted by
frenchjr25 (35 points) (7 posts) on Tue, 2008-07-22 13:43.There was a made for TV movie called "The Children of Times Square" about a couple of runaways, one a male and one female, and what they had to do for money. I thought it was pretty ground-breaking for its day even though it does not hold up today.
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I caught a screening of "Before I Forget" at Outfest on Sunday, and depressing is a very apt description. I found Jacques Nolot's previous film "Porn Theater" to be challenging and involving, but "Before I Forget" is mainly focused on how materialistic and hollow the hustler life is, with nothing but loneliness and degradation to look forward to once you're past your prime. It may be true, but it doesn't make for a terribly uplifting or entertaining movie, IMO.
Off the top of my head, other films focused on hustlers which I have previously found interesting include the documentary "101 Rent Boys," Bruce La Bruce's "Hustler White," and "Sugar," starring Brendan Fehr. They also demonstrate the pitfalls of hustling, but manage to include some moments of human connection, levity and/or hope.
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