Best. Gay. Week. Ever. (January 11, 2008)

Y dear? do u have a problem with Kali? she is the most beloved divinty in India and please dont make such references again.She is at least better than that homophobic Jesus. As for Bhandarkar he is a homophobic asshole who maligned gays in his movie "Page 3" we cant expect nething else frm him

man, i thought I was the only one who saw it that way. i noticed on some of the messageboards, fans were saying stuff like "well, can you blame him? his dad is a whackjob and his mom is dead. he's so alone"

...at the same time, i still didn't see the big problem with moving in together. maybe luke is trying to put intimacy off as long as he can?? EH

Old news. Im suprised that is causing such a fuss. Memoirs of Hadrian is a really good book, I hope they do it justice.

are gay and yet that is hardly mentioned. Hadrian's wikipedia entry doesn't exactly devote much time to his relationship with Antinous either.

While I'm sure the focus of your interview with the folks at ATWT will be the affection issue, I do hope After Elton asks questions on what I consider important issues regarding this couple, such as what their new storyline is going to be, when it's going to begin and if we'll be seeing them more than we do now. There has been buzz that things will be improving on this front sooner rather than later, but I would like to hear a definitive answer from the network on this. Yes, ask about the affection issue, but please take this opportunity to ask other questions about things I (and I'm sure other viewers) would like the answers to as well.

You seemed to have missed the latest episode of Law and Order where the whole thing was about screening fetuses for the "gay gene." It was interesting.

...to Stephen Baldwin's call-in comments?

Yes, they do say the cream rises to the top. But cream well past its expiration date tends to curdle.

...I just can't stop watching the trailer over and over again. I'm a sucker for a good gay romance and there haven't been too many of those on film over the years.

Btw, I don't mind the poker ads but I wish Megavideo wouldn't insist on auto-resizing my browser every time I click on a new video.

Thanks, Michael for continuing to try to talk to CBS. Us Nuke fans get more and more nervous when we only see the guys 4 episodes a month and get censored kisses. Something is not right.

Its writer-director Andrew Fleming is openly gay. And there's a lovely shot of Stephen Baldwin's naked butt in it. Of course this was before alcohol and controlled substance absue, accompanied by a galloping ego led to a crash and burn that resulted in his "Coming to Jesus." Or is it coming all over Jesus? I forget which. And speaking of nudity, the climax of Eastern Promises involves a Stark Naked Viggo fending off two knife-wielding killers in a Turkish Bath.

Is Brad Rowe getting a double chin already? That's so sad. As to Noah from ATWT, does any one remember how "Single White Female" ended? Hmm. Seems like an easy out for any real intimacy. That boiling rabbit/hare was adorable.

when you interview cbs or whatever, i hope to the sky that they don't tell you "oh, well you know how soaps are.....they have good periods and bad periods...every soap couple goes through this"

if they say that, i will have a field day. man, oh man.

Cutaways, Cutaways, Cutaways. Ask them WTF. Tell them we aren't asking for soft-core porn with Nuke, only if they would consider it. No wait; Ask them to compare Dusty's behavior with Nuke. Also, Ask them if they have received any threats from Right wing anti-gay groups or if this comes from the board room of CBS.

For years, the Nelson Atkins Museum of Art in Kansas City has displayed busts of Hadrian and Antinous across from each other. At first, it was a private nod to those who knew about the relationship. About two years ago, they remodeled and placed a placard with the busts explaining the great love between the two.

This week, in their magazine, and on their website, Soap Opera Digest is asking the question:

Should Luke and Noah get more physical?

If you'd like to vote in this poll and show your support for the boys, here is the link:

http://soapoperadigest.com/polls/pupop/

I would imagine that the fear is not unreasonable that any historical depiction of someone like Hadrian would either be unwatchably incoherent (Alexander anyone?) or would gloss over the gay thing. Hadrian and his predecessor Trajan were both known to be into twinks, but as was typical in their day also had trophy wives for public events and political reasons (like Alexander the Great did). Gay-unfriendly directors have a way of focusing on these relationships instead. Let's hope things have changed.

Noah was a little weird this week, but reviewing the last few months the weirdness has actually been there for a while. However, it is a rare bit of realism considering that he's a 19 year-old gay man from a right-wing upbringing whose father is a psycho killer and has no other family and a limited support circle. The boy needs time on the couch badly. The unrealism comes from willingly moving into the Snyder farm. However, saying in a daytime: "Luke, if we get an apartment together we can have hot, screaming sex like three times a day." is maybe a bit more progress than we can expect from P&G.

It needs to be pointed out to Stephen "My-Career-Was-Lame" Baldwin that the Bible doesn't actually say anything about same-sex marriage period. But like many Biblical "literalists" he has an amazing ability to read between the lines and come up with new stuff.

Shelter was my favorite movie of the year. I saw it at the San Francisco GLBT Film Festival in June and have been waiting impatiently all year for it to come out in theatres. Great romance betweeen Trevor Wright and Brad Rowe (who looks hot), nice photography and a good score. This one's definitely worth seeing.

Which two gay guys went out on a date on JDMA? I might have missed that part! :(

I can't wait to see "Shelter". Does anyone know who is singing the song on the trailer. I've seen another one but you get a better feel for the content in this one. Thanks for sharing it. As for Luke and Noah I cannot really be objective about it so I have to say that I think your commentary leaves a lot to be desired and really wished you hadn't shared it.

Luke and Noah wouldn't be viable soap characters if it were all blue skies and green lights. The fact that Noah wants them to move in together is both lovely and ever-so-slightly menacing in ways that should make for a perfect soap  tusnami. I'm expecting they'll settle in together and then Noah's neediness will inspire Luke to move out -- declaring his undying love all the while. At the dorm some hot number will make a play for him, and All Melodramatic Hell will break loose when Noah finds out. On top of that there's always the prospect that Psycho Dad will break out of jail and come back to kill or kidnap and torture Luke. Doncha just love it?

I counted off forty-two seconds before Brad Rowe made it clear to everyone that he's married and straight with kids... You could almost make a contest of this I think. Before showing a clip of an interview with an actor playing a gay role, ask the viewers to send in their guesses as to how long it will take him to let everyone know he's straight. The lucky winner would get to go on a date with the actor...  He could bring along his family...

My view of the Luke & Noah storyline is that it is so contrived (granted all soap opera stories are contrived, right?), and by contrived I mean "directed," that all verisimilitude is lost - for me at any rate. I still haven't recovered from the Christmas/New Year's Luke who looked into Noah's eyes and proclaimed, "I love you, Noah...and I AM SO IN LOVE WITH YOU!" He then suggested they go somewhere more private where one has to believe he intended a more intimate, romantic moment would be enjoyed. So, what happened then? Well, there was NO romantic &/or intimate moment with our two teenage gay boys, instead, of course, Luke invited Noah to live with him at Grandma's farm - where he could be sure he wouldn't ever have to even touch Noah, let alone kiss or go to bed with him. This is of course what all the first-time romantic "straight" couples do on daytime drama, right? Hmmm, I don't think so - at least, not in any daytime drama I've ever watched. I'm sorry, but it's absolutely ludicrous in my view. There's plenty of daytime, teen "gay" dramas on European tv, I wonder when, or if, America will ever catch up? Somehow, I don't think it will happen anytime soon. Ciao guys, Amadeus

Every time I see Carson Kressley on screen I have to cringe. This must be how African-Americans felt watching Steppin' Fetchit. When he mentioned on Queer Eye that he wouldn't kick George W. Bush out of bed, then proceeded to make passes at even the ugliest straight guy on the show, I had had enough. Then I turned on Lifetime last night and saw him dressed as Carmen Miranda... I was appalled. It is just so sad that gays who do their best minstrel show routines are the ones the general public seems to embrace. How are we ever going to overcome this negative stereotype if we don't ever get anything but buffoons on American TV?

I too am over Carson Kressley, and have no interest in make-over shows; however, I have to hand it to the guy as he's stretched his time beyond his 15 minutes.

I do agree that he represents a stereotype that used to bother me when growing up, but now see it as something to embrace/accept as an integral part of the gay community. For anyone watching, it might be relevant to hear if Carson's shtick any more demeaning than that of others (think Bob Saget or Chris Harrison) doing these types of shows.

Some who are over Carson/make-over shows, will probably not like to hear that, as per Variety, the ratings for How To Look Good Naked's first show were higher than any other reality-based show in Lifetime's 24 year history. I would have thought that it would tank, but it netted 1.6 million viewers and did especially well in its reaching its prized 18-34 women demographic.

It seems like the ladies/maybe some of us (?) are liking Carson. Michael asked if anyone was watching this stuff and my answer is that I am not, but did Golden Girls/Designing Women fan needing a fix do a drive-by and has an opinion?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978568.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

 

about Mike Huckabee and Steve Baldwin phoning in to Howard Stern complaining about how the Brits spend their tax dollars right? As if it is any of their business how the British spend their own taxes. Maybe the win in Iowa has gone to Mr. Huckabee's head. It certainly has not improved his grasp on reality! Hadrian's sexual orientation has been known for some time.

Making a movie about him that is truthful is not shoving homosexuality down innocent British kids' throats (as if it is cod liver oil). It is doing something that is not done enough in the movies, assuming the audience is reasonably mature and intelligent. Perhaps Hollywood could take a lesson from their cousins across the Atlantic and portray gays more objectively in American movies.

As for Steve Baldwin being against gay marriage because of what the bible says (I am not sure where it says anything about marriage between two men), well maybe he should live a whole year adhering to the very strict laws laid out in Leviticus. After that period of time, if he lasts that long, he will probably be whistling a different tune.

It is nice to hear that Noah and Luke are moving into together (although you are right about living with the grandmother, she must be very liberal). However, they could be the first gay couple to have their first "it is your turn to do the dishes" fight before they have their first kiss!

Cheers

JBE

of how nuts some of these folks that can be that it still seems plausible! LOL.

Cammtl - your "romantic" (in the literary sense of the word) notion is fine and apparently all you require. Personally, I would prefer something more real. A scene with Luke and Noah in bed together, I do not consier "porn." It's done on European tv (England, France, Germany, and even Spain - a Catholic country...I lived in France and consider Catholocism there as "different" from other Catholic countries) more and more. However, who said anything about "porn?" Certainly not me. Two guys who obviously care about each other the way Luke and Noah do, expressing that love in a physical way I do not consider porn. After all, we see every other daytime "hetero" couple kissing and in bed together all the time - young & older couples.

Give the story time you say...well, I'm sorry, but two "real" kisses in 7 or 8 months goes beyond the pale for me. And, since we only see our two guys, who are indeed extremely easy to look at, a few minutes every 2nd or 3rd week, I admit your patience is far greater than mine.

In real life, words mean nothing without action to demonstrate the reality of the words -no matter what emotion one is dealing with...whether love, or hate, or anger, or courtesy, or anything else, it is the action that confirms the verbal emotion, for me at least. It seems pretty clear that others do not share this view and that's ok. I'm only expressing my thoughts and views here.

I too am patient with the storyline. My first reaction was that they are not being treated as equals to the straight couples. The first two kisses were hot and the slow sensual buildup made them so. The scenes where they were physically close and were almost going to kiss but didn't were exciting. I would like to see them be able to express their love physically but I can wait for now. They are such good actors and relate so well to each other that it makes the wait bearable. While it is not realistic that they would not be all over each other it is just as unrealistic to expect this from this show. Whatever has happened they are the most romantic couple on the show and I can't wait for their scenes. Maybe keeping them different from the other couples has contributed to it. The fact that they are not on more often is frustrating but I also do not want the story to end up overexposed like Gwen/Will, Paul/Meg/Craig who have reached the point where I dread seeing them. Luke's character has been through a lot in the last few years from his coming out to his infatuation with his best friend and finally to his love for Noah. All I think done in a realistic manner. Setting them up to move in together was not realistic as neither one of them even has a job. Setting up Noah to move into the farmhouse is promising. It has the potential of drawing the rest of Luke's family into the relationship. I would like to see Noah become an integral part of the family to the point where Luke become's slightly jealous of it. I would also like to see someone, maybe from Noah's past, come into the picture and loosen Luke's control of the situation. I think seeing them in bed or at least giving us a hint that they have become physical would be nice. Cutting away from kisses is ridiculous and inexplicable. This is most definitely not Europe. So for Luke and Noah's story to be told on American daytime television is a big deal. For that matter it would be a big deal for primetime tv to show the love story of a young gay couple. So for now I can wait a bit longer and hope that the story is allowed to grow and continue to be a part of the show.

I saw the film at Outfest in Los Angeles, sitting two rows back from Brad and he entourage. He was not at all a diva. When I spoke to him briefly after the screening he made sure he got my name and introduced me to his friends. But from that night I will remember the eroticism of that first kiss. Beats Nuke hands down.

Here! Films is a subsidary of Regent Films that gave us the amazing GODS AND MONSTERS. We all need to support Logo, and Here! too, they are upagainst a lot but are making headway towards greater visibility and acceptance of LGBT life.

Michael: I just found an article about the skank who sings this song, but before posting my annoyance, I did a search as I hate to pollute with new forum topics. I could not believe that a Best. Gay. Week. Ever. with her back on 1/11/08. What am I going to do with you. Just as I peg you as possibly too thin skinned sometimes, you make me feel like I have no skin. Not funny, especially these days, and not by some heterosexual female. I think that it's time that, at best, gays and only gays were able to use that word.

Here's the link an an AP article (the AP is becoming the new National Enquirer) to how this Katy Perry used a term is being less tolerated every single day to become "the buzz on the Internet." If you follow the link, would you consider giving the story a zero at the bottom of the page? Of course that assumes agreement. It's already is getting a low score, but if there is anything that I can do to push it down, I will.  Speaking of pushing it down, I think that her Britney is showing in the picture. Skank.

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