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Angry Puppy video blog 19: "Justice League", "Lost", and the 10 worst-cast characters ever

This week Marc and Lee begin by geeking out over the new Justice League animated movie (which boasts one of the best voice casts evah), which leads to a discussion of some of the worst-cast projects of all time. Needless to say, it's a fun chat.

The fellas also talk Lost, Torchwood and It's Alive!, and toss in another Mystery Geek Challenge, to boot. Check it out!

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Metabaron's picture

Wonder Twins and Gleek

HAHAHAHA!! Wonder Twin powers activate!

Justice League New Frontier would have been better if it had been twice as long and included more material from the actual comic book.

I would not even cast Hayden Christensen in a gay porn movie. Manniquin Skywalker in "Wooden Love". whatever

Yeah, Lost definitely is the best its ever been this season.

BTW, there are rumors that Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles WILL BE PICKED UP for a SECOND SEASON. To which I say AWWRIIIGHT!!! The rumors come from Hollywood Reporter. Cameron takes on the Kool Aid guy OH YEAH!!!

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Marc's picture

Yes longer is better

You are so right... I wonder now if New Frontier needed to be longer in order to finesse the story better. Ultimately I did love the cast and the art so much, and really hope there's more stories coming!
Psionycx's picture

Superfriends, it could have been much worse...

Forget the Wonder Twins and Gleek.  The absolute worst that could have happened would have been the return of Marvin, Wendy and the dog in the cape!

If you want to laugh about the old Superfriends series until you start bleeding from your nose, check out this hillarious site:

Seanbaby's Superfriends Page

jakob's picture

Well, I think the Mystery

Well, I think the Mystery Geek Challenge was comic book villains (and possibly from the couple that I picked up, ones beginning with B). I think I caught Bizarro, Blockbuster & Brainiac
Ed Kennedy's picture

Justice League

As always, I just love the blog, love you both, and the way you somehow turn t-shirts into fashion to talk about.

 

I had skipped the Justice League thing for the same reasons Lee mentioned: Superfriends. I recall the Wonder Twins on Ssaturday morning in my PJs, but being slightly older, I also recall those teenagers and dog that preceeded them, whose names I just had to look up: Wendy and Marvin. I had decided to just wait for the supposedly back-on Justice League live-action movie and the hunky stars. Maybe I'll pick this one up now though.

 

Torchwood. I just don't know what to say, even to the sci-fi fanatic fan that works for me. I keep watching it like a cartoon train wreck - I really, really want to like like it, and I'm extremely faithful to watching it, live (well, no time shifting DVR), but it's just so incredibly bad and cheesy. It's poorly written, poorly acted, half the cast I don't care about or actively dislike. It's mostly killed the true character of Captain Jack. I don't know how much longer I can force myself to pretend to enjoy it. It's honestly no better written or performed than Dante's Cove, and it's missing the hot naked guys.

 

I also would like to chime in that I agree - Keanu Reeves has truly ruined every movie he's been in since Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. Keep up the honesty.

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DC not being dark enough

I agree to some degree. Of course, I assume you aren't including their Vertigo line in this, but instead, are only referencing their super heros. I think in recent years they have tried to balance out being gritty with the too-good-to-be-interesting nature of their characters. In fact, we've seen Wonder Woman and Superman kill a villian in their respective comic books. People are less trusting of the heros after the Crisis. There are the epic stories like the Sinestro Corps War and the follow ups of Rage of the Red Lanterns and Blackest Night that suggest they may even be going darker on an epic scale. Although the heros again aren't as dark as some other super hero comic books. Part of this maybe just that their main characters are too powerful. OT: I hope you cover the Comic Book Convention coming up soon in NYC. It would be great to hear a gay perspective on it.
Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

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Torchwood the Vampire Slayers

I agree that when they try to inject an element of "black magic" into the Torchwood storyline it falls flat.  This is, after all, suppsoed to be a sci-fi show, not Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Granted, Doctor Who has gone there as well, although generally when he encountered something "magical" it was really an alien phenomenon.  Classic cases were the Third Doctor episode "The Daemons" and the Fourth Doctor episode "Image of the Fendahl".  The less said about the Seventh Doctor's time the better.  This is not to say that I didn't think that Tenth Doctor episodes "The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit" weren't good, because they were.  But then, they were playing with the notion of the Doctor's own personal beliefs about reality, and the fact that he readily accepts the existence of other timelines and other universes (having visited them) but was reluctant to accept the idea of something from before this universe came into being.

Torchwood's atheism is an odd fit, as Doctor Who is more open on the matter.  The existence of the Black and White Guardians of time suggest the possibility of a higher power.  Also, it's contradictory in Torchwood that they say that there's nothing after death, and yet everyone who's ever been dead and brought back is able to remember that "nothing", or even going further remembers there being "something" (Abaddon, Death, etc.) "in the darkness".  More rational minds might start wondering if this is something to do with the Rift and the proximity of some otherdimensional space inhabited by strange beings.

Sadly, smoky skeleton beings, a little too Buffy for me thanks.  How about we get back to busting aliens?

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Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Matt's picture

Torchwood

Have to agree with Angry Puppy, for me "Dead Man Walking" has to have been the letdown of the series, not just for the toying with the life/death of main characters, but also the inclusion of Death/Grim Reaper as an actual physical entity in what has previously established itself as a somewhat atheist ideology, and it annoys me that it was never questioned (that much) by the team, personally I would have felt a whole lot better if it turned out that the Grim Reaper/Death thingamajig was an alien released from the glove, or something slightly more science fiction. Anyway without giving away any spoilers (as a Brit, I am two episodes ahead), I can say that the next two episodes are definitely an improvement, so hopefully this was just a one-episode dip in quality.

PS: I wonder if one day, there will be a Mystery Geek Challenge that wont completely evade me, ah well, like Professor Farnsworth says "A man can dream, a man can dream".

Ben Weldon's picture

Hurray for Veoh!!

Now I can watch The Puppy with no problems. Thanks guys. :)

Ok, Mystery Geek Challenge. DC villains. Bizarro, Blockbuster, Brainiac, Mist and Queen Bee.

Psionycx's picture

Bad Casting

Great vlog as usual boys!

I just want to say a couple of points about the list.

- Keanu Reeves.  Constantine was doomed anyway.  All they did was pirate the name and then used absolutely nothing from the comics.   That said, I have no faith in his acting either.

- Nicholas Cage.  It could have been worse.  For a while there was talk of casting him in a Superman movie.  One wag commented that the subtitle could be: Hair Club for Supermen".

- Hayden Christiansen.  I'm not sure if it was him, or the appallingly bad writing in Episodes II & III.  Natalie Portman is a brilliant actress but even she was beaten down into the dirt by the corny lines they gave her to recite.  I know that criticizing George Lucas is bad karma, but I really believe that the prequel trilogy was more about showcasing how much ILM's FX technology had advanced in 20 years than about making good movies.  Because the scripts sucked.  I mean really sucked.  Then again, Jumper was so bad that I didn't even feel like resisting the nausea from the Macaroni Grill dinner I had before I went and sticking it out.  I left about 1/3 of the way in to go find Zantac and somehow don't feel like I missed out on anything.

 

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Javi's picture

Mystery geek challenge

yea i def heard marc say darkside (darkseid) and maybe even bizarro so maybe it is the villains.
Marc's picture

Mystery Geek Challenge - REVEALED!

Kudos to Ben Weldon who correctly guessed that this week's MGC was DC Villains, and he and several readers identified about half the list. We mentioned the names of fourteen DC villains in last week's vlog; here's the complete list:

Blockbuster
Bizarro
The Brain
Darkseid
Multiplex
General
Brainwave
Mist
Brainiac
Deep Six
Puppeteer
Queen Bee
Catwoman
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