I can't get that song out of my head now . .damn you.

I can't even remember the melody of the song; as soon as I'd hear it come on the radio, I'd flip the station in a nano-second.

This Parker/Liberty stuff is awful!  The writing is so bad.

Since when did Lucinda so obviously pursue a man?    She's coming off as a desperate woman and that is NOT Lucinda.  And why can't she see through this guy!? 

Oh and about Brian.  I don't think he's a homophobe.  I think he's closeted and using Lucinda as a beard.  Luke and Noah do make him uncomfortable, but not because he has issues about gay people.   He just doens't like being reminded of what he's desperately trying to hide.

did he lose his footing when he saw Lucinda picking out her "i'm gonna get laid tonight!" outfit?

One usually does not tell a total stranger about you losing your virginity to a 15 year old boy.

Who is writing this crap!?  So suddenly Parker is the hero and everyone should be grateful to him?  Talk about manipulative writing!  The fact that he stalked Liberty, lied to his parents and got J.J. to lie is completely forgotten!

 

And did Brian trot out every stereotype he could think of?  Yuck!

Brian before I start actually reading your liveblog, for future posts could you always include the roster of characters and their names (as you have included in this one)? It makes reading them easier and even more enjoyable.

As for the headline of the day, it appears the producers or writers or whoever-the-hell-is-responsible has successfully instituted another cockblock to prevent our lovely couple from hooking up in time (scratch that, too late) for their one-year anniversary.

I suppose it's nice that a daytime soap opera originating from homophobic USA still has gay characters that kiss on TV, but their lack of screentime of late combined with the pathetic excuses of storylines they had a few months ago (we all know how THAT went) just leaves me... bored and annoyed. YAWN.

I LOVE how Lucinda struck up for Luke.  That was fantastic!   The best moment of the day!

ROFLMAO!.... quote of the day XD

What a terrible, awful, badly written and nonsensical episode.   Lucinda acting like a schoolgirl.  Parker behaving poorly but getting everything he wants.  All the adults in the storyline acting like idiots.  And I'm still unclear on what exactly Luke and Noah are going to do?  Ugh, just plain bad.  Whoever wrote this episode should have all their pencils taken away.

 

I loved Lucinda telling Brian off though.  That was classic Lucinda.  And Brian knew he screwed up big.

Gang, I am somewhat embarassed that you are actually sitting thru this mess called ATWT. I have totally given up on it. I stop by here periodically just to see what's going on. Watch the actual broadcast? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This trainwreck from what I read, is even more ridiculous than when I finally stopped watching back in early July. I can't believe that AfterElton is even wasting time with the live blogs. Why give publicity to such a waste of good airtime?

They pretty much sealed their fate with me when they got rid of Martha Bryne and hired that psycho bitch; NuLily, who I HATE! Then to add insult to injury, they got Holden-A-Grudge involved with Sister Carliar of the Lying Bitches! TOTALLY STUPID!

No, I'm not even gonna bring up Loretta Luke and the Dimwit. Two of the saddest, neutered gays on daytime TV! Wait a minute...  They are the ONLY saddest, neutered gays on daytime TV!  Thank your lucky stars for that!

1) I would like to officially declare this the week that we all STOP SAYING NUKE ISN'T A COUPLE.

They are both gay, in love and want to be together.

Anyone who is STILL saying they aren't sure how they feel about each other is just choosing to be A BIG SCREAMING MEANY!

AS FOR THE TEENS

I know that the actress who plays Libtery is 20 (which is not uncommon for actor/actresses playing a teen) but aren't their characters supposed to be the same age? Aren't Liberty and Parker both 15?

 

 

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" tells Noah that Wheats suggested that the boys not be as open about their relationship and when he says that maybe that's not a bad idea.."

^ WTF? Noah still acting like an idiot, i see.

you know...I'd rather be with a character like Brian Kinney, who can be an ass, yet takes pride in himself and who he is than Noah who...well, will most likely never recover from his daddy issues and is constantly not sure where he wants to be with luke. out...not out...out...not out....GOD, GIVE ME A BREAK.

The show left the question of what Luke and Noah would do in the air or unanswered.   But I don't think the boys will be going back in the closet.  We just did that story.  And there's really no reason to do it now because the potential loss isn't concrete.  If Noah and Luke's relationshp had of been exposed during the Ameera storyline, Ameera would've been sent back to Iraq and Noah off to the slammer.  There were real stakes.  Here there are none.  Someone may or may not do business with them?  It's pointless.  I think it's just a minor thing to put Luke and Brian at odds.   Besides, Luke going into the closet would be against everything he is.  His reaction to Brian's suggestion told how he felt about that and he could never do it.  So I think when we see the boys again next week, it'll be resolved because Luke will refuse to hide his relationship with Noah.

But in terms of Brian, his reaction to Luke and Noah was not one of a homophobe.  It made him uncomfortable for reasons other than his being a bigot.  At least that's how it played to me.  I think he's a closet case and his being around Luke and Noah reminds him of that.

Not to be off the point -- whatever that was in this ep -- but there was an item on the NY Daily News gossip page the other day about our Casey, which I thought was interesting. He's in a play called "Paper Dolls" at the Player's Theater: "On opening night, hunk Billy Magnussen (also seen on "ATWT") drew gasps when he peeled off his shirt. And no, not just from us. Though we contributed." Sounds like that "Sex in the City" moment with Smith!

to put on the show and having to see Noah tell Luke is OK to go back into the closet. And then I read this.Just the idea of contemplating it.

For the sake of storytelling and drama, I get the back in the closet thing, but that exchange about kids and gays was really uncalled for. Did someone actually used the word pedophile? Or was that Brian trying to convey the intent of the conversation? Either way, not good, not good at all.

 

 

Time-traveling dollhouse? Do I need to start watching this now?

 

No, not "distant gay traces" -- it's distingué traces!

How Luke should respond to Wheatables:

"It's YOUR job to find people to donate to the foundation, so find some progressive people who don't care that I kiss my boyfriend in public periodically."

Seriously! What kind of foundation requires Luke to be straight-acting in public? It's HIS foundation. It's HIS money that's starting it. He can run it any way he wants! If philanthropists really are conservative (I think they're meeting the wrong philanthropists because I know many liberal ones) then either accept the fact that you might pull in fewer donations OR hook up with liberal musicians/artists to raise money. He can call up Cyndi Lauper!

First, the big thing.  Luke is the one putting up the money.  He doesn't have to care about what other people think because they will be applying to his foundation for grants.  If they were soliciting donations from others, it would be slightly different (although, have been in the non-profit arena for many years, I can tell you that it is full of out gay men and no one cares).

Secondly, I feel like James Coburn in the deleted scene from "The President's Analyst."  You know, where they're in the theatre and he's not paying attention to the plot of the movie because he's too busy looking at all the little details in the background.

Anyway, it bugged me for the whole episode that multi-millionaire Lily has a 2-dollar corkscrew.  The kind that breaks on the third use.  Stupid producers could make some money by contacting Screwpull and doing some serious product placement.

I'm really hoping that the Luke/Brian conflict is just a time filler, and that Brian's real purpose on the show will reveal itself with the return of James Stenbeck next week. It doesn't seem like a coincidence that Lucinda finds a love interest just one week before her ex-lover--who is also the biggest supervillian atwt has ever seen--returns to the show.  I would LOVE to see Nuke get wrapped up in the Stenbeck story, however unlikely it may be.  If they aren't going to hit the sheets, it would be the next best thing!

It is so clear that the writers of this show have no sense of a gay reality.  They won't even let the boys kiss when Noah leaves the set.  But, worst of all, today was the Foundations are unaccepting of gays line from Whatables.  First off, have they never heard of David Geffen, Tim Gill, or David Bohnett, who are openly gay and have foundations with astronomical funding.  There are many more but  not on that level of funding..  Also,  I have yet to attend any high-end charitable fundraiser where there aren't a least two dozen elbow benders, gay men who escort wealthy women to charity events.  A great many party planners (Colin Cowie, for example) and proferssional fundraisers (David Mixner, for this categoy) are openly gay.

This has to be one of the worst oversights ever.  Apparently one of the female writers had a college firend who knew a guy who was a theater major before he became a closeted stockbroker who restored a farm house with his gay decorater boyfriend bck in 1955. Yeah that's it.

ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.

INSIDEGUY

I kept thinking it must be some really stupid straight guy (like Chris Goutman probably) planning this story. Only an idiot thinks any major fund-raising organization exists without gay men bringing in cash (and usually planning the parties). Since this whole ridiculous Luke-the-instant-billionaire story started, all I can think of is why isn't Luke starting a charitable foundation for gay teens if he's so damn out and proud?

The one bright spot on the show for me this past week was realizing that Luke and Noah ARE being treated like another straight couple on the show: poor clueless, deluded, neutered Aaron and his crush, Allison. Seriously, how creepy is it that these 2 gorgeous, young and in-love brothers aren't getting any while their 50ish mother and father are humping everyone in town like rabbits? 

When Wheatly suggest that Luke goes back into the closet, is that an aside to the AFA. Or at least a echoing of their beliefs. Everything he is saying is what the AFA has said in one way or another. "You don't want the Luke Snyder foundation to be labeled a gay foundation, especially when children are involved." He could be arguing that "You don't want ATWT to be labeled the gay soap." Not only does Luke reject him but Lucinda is quick to stand up for Luke. Saying that if Wheatly proves to be homophobic they will cut him loose. Hers is the voice of experience and reason. They used the terms "Homophobic" and "Closed Minded." A common attack from the wing nuts directed at Nuke, is that this is day time television is watched by children, Luke's pedophile comment seems to relate to that.

Noah's turn around is annoying, but shouldn't be surprising. He had no problem marrying a woman, that didn't work out. Or joining the army, that didn't work out either. So why does he seem to cling to the closet? It's like ATWT's gay story must be told with at least one character who feels shame. One character who is a "Good Gay" in the eyes of bigots. The gay who knows that he's a sinner and shouldn't be exposing himself to children. Luke and Noah are two representative points of view. I've met gay men who would be closeted if it weren't for an out partner, and men who have sadly gone back into the closet.

As upsetting as it is to see the Good Gay, this is a chance for them to discuss the issue. If certain members of the audience are able to empathize with Noah because he represents the Good Gay that their pastor preachs for them to love, but are also able to see the misery that that brand of hatred imposes on our lives and ability to love, perhaps their hearts will grow a few sizes. But considering P&G's track record, I know not to hold my breath.

In the leaked script, it comes out that Wheatly had known Lucinda in the past. Had observed her own philanthropy first hand, and had remained impressed. That exchange seems to be dropped, perhaps they will bring it up later. I think that his current creepiness is a red haring. That they want us to mistrust him, so he can turn around and prove himself at a later date. It could be foreshadowing something, but I hope the "closet" suggestion was made in order to stir up the pot for Luke and Noah, so they can resolve all the b.s. and start acting like a grown up couple.

As far as Luke and Noah having sex together? It would seem creepy to me at this point, after all the stalling, internalized homophobia, platonic head bumps, etc. etc. etc. Like watching two mentally retarded adults do it. I don't know if I could believe or be able to stand to see a Henry and Vienna going-at-it scene with them, right now. They need to grow up.