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Liveblogging "As the World Turns": Stand by me
Okay, I know snagging a tender moment from the beloved coming-of-age movie is a bit sappy. But honestly whenever the dunderheaded, emotionally schizophrenic Noah actually does his boyfriend a solid and looks out for his feelings, it's a reason to celebrate. Yes, today Luke's broken home gets even ... brokener? ... when Gilded Lily finds out that Holden shtupped the Quaker Oats Lady on the camping trip mere feet away from their brood of sullen children. (This one time ... at Adultery Camp...) With Luke's family falling apart, Noah steps up to the plate and is actually there for his boyfriend to lean on ... which I'm sure has nothing to do with the fact that the Snyders are currently feeding Noah and putting a roof over his head. Naaah, couldn't be. How will the parental dramatics play out, and what will Noah's solution be? Click on through the jump and refresh often to find out, as it happens! When the night .... has come. And the land is dark... 2:56PM EDT: Ooh, Beefy Barista's doing things to me that he shouldn't. Parker shows up and sees that DJ isn't there. Meanwhile, Austin From Days is driving her out to an Amish farm or something and throws her phone out the window. Preview Time: No Nuke, but Ghost Sophie, suicidal Allison, and Emily and Butters getting married?! 2:52PM EDT: Noah intercepts Luke and Stormcloud in the porch and tells them that Magic just had a foal, and Stormcloud reluctantly goes out to see it. Luke tells Noah that he'd love to move in with Noah but not right now, and says that one day they'll have a place that's all their own, and they kiss. Rawr! 2:50PM EDT: Holden plays the Dusty card with Lily. Snap! She asks if this is all payback. Double-snap! Quaker Oats Lady tells Matthew Perry 2.0 about Lily's wolf-out at the BBQ and mourns the fact that trouble follows her everywhere she goes. But honey, that's why we love you! Diet Juno goes to Java to meet up with Parker and Beefy Barista is still working. But before she has a chance to deflower him Austin From Days shows up, literally throws her over his shoulder, and carries her off. Funny, when I see him do that to me in my dreams he's wearing nothing but a dance belt... 2:44PM EDT: Little Miss wails and runs off and Luke follows her to Whore Lake, where she says that she hates their parents and he holds her. Meanwhile Lily accuses Holden of inviting QAF and he's all "helllll no." He points out that she's out of her ever-lovin' mind lately. BTW, can anyone see Martha Byrne doing any of this crazy stuff? Dammit! gets all Not Without My Daughter and then they realize that she's gone anyway. Oops! Stormcloud and Luke have a heart-to-heart and she's actually not totally annoying for like the first time ever. I don't hear that Debbie Downer "wah-waaaah" noise after every line! In fact, I kind of like her! 2:33PM EDT: Meanwhile, Dammit! and Austin From Days get into their own parent fight and AFD asks Security Bear to go "hang out in his car awhile". Ha! Anyone thinking of The Soup? Diet Juno of course scrambles the moment their backs are turned. Luke gives Noah a keychain that his sister made for him at camp, and Noah says that maybe one day they can use it to carry keys to their own place. Luke tells him that it's not the right time for that but that coming to the barbecue would be a real solid. Noah thanks his beefy barista friend for covering for him and he tells the couple to have a nice time. Aw! Meanwhile, Stormcloud and The Other One have made napkin rings for Holden and Gilded Lily, but Stormcloud picks up right away that they're fighting again and she pulls a Jerri Blank cry-and-run (sans overturned candy dish) out of the room just as Luke and Noah show up. Oh boy - Quaker Oats Lady drops off Parsley at the barbecue and all of a sudden Gilded Lily lunges out at her from a cornfield. "Malachi! He wants you, too!" No, she asks QAL how she dare show up and Holden pops up and tries to break up the fight (although he seems like he might be just a teensy bit turned on, am I wrong?) and Lily's all, "you can't just boink Holden and think things are just hunky-dory!" and they all turn around and Luke, Little Miss Stormcloud, The Other One, Emma, the Dalai Lama, and the ghost of Mother Teresa are standing there. Awkward! 2:20PM EDT: Quaker Oats Lady and MP2.0 are in the middle of a white hot parent fight that would put Ordinary People to shame. Please tell me Parker is going to show up and start barking at them. Dammit! tells "Liberty Lou" that they're moving out of Oakdale. Yeah, right. Meanwhile over at the Pity-Me Pancake Breakfast, Luke tries to cheer up Stormcloud by telling her to "chillax" and then forcing them to do the dishes. I love how he turns into such a dork around them. When are they going to teach him "holla at ya boy"? Emma calls Gilded Lily and invites her to a big family barbecue at the farm and GL tries to beg off, saying that she was just about to make tuna salad. Nice excuse, girl! Luke convinces her to accept and tells her that he's bringing a date. Over at Java, Noah is working with another guy and Luke shows up and asks him if he has a second. It's like No Limits in here! I do love that Noah has no discomfort with his boyfriend popping in at work and the guy he works with couldn't care less. Luke talks Noah into attending the most awkward barbecue since Joan of Arc. 2:10PM EDT: Dammit! was whore-blocked by the Security Bear, whom Diet Juno refers to as "Lurch". Try sleeping your way through this one, sweets! Meanwhile, Matthew Perry 2.0 lets slip to Quaker Oats Lady that their son had sex with his cousin, and her reaction is of course genius. I think she threw up in her mouth a little. 2:05PM EDT: Bed-headed Holden shuffles into the kitchen, where Emma makes him some coffee and gets the latest scoop in the Irreconcilable Differences drama. Meanwhile, over at the Lily Pad, Luke is browsing through Celibate Gay's Life when Little Miss Stormcloud and her The Other One rush in and hug him. He welcomes them back from summer camp and asks if it was "totally tubular". Yes, if it were 1984. Stormcloud's first question is if, now that gay marriage is legal in California, Luke is moving away. Nice to see that they get The Advocate at Camp Rolling Hills. Luke assures them that no, he's not getting married because marriage sucks, as his parents are proving quite nicely. He offers to make pancakes and they're all, "eh ...". Fine, have a Toaster Strudel, you ungrateful nits! Meanwhile, Diet Juno is under house arrest and has a daddy bear security guard that just stepped out of a Raging Stallion video. I'm liking this episode! 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A little bit of fun before the show starts
Somebody with too much time on their hands mashed together ATWT and Falcon Crest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWH8Lzh7FDQ
Kangaroo comercial
Where is Noah living?
I am getting confused as to where Noah is living....last week Luke and Noah were living at the farm...now it seems that Luke is living at Lily's....so where's Noah living now?
This show is driving me crazy!!!
Where Luke Lives
But where is Noah living/
Isn't Noah living at the farm?
That was the impression I got.
Normally I'm not a fan of
Normally I'm not a fan of direct comparisons between ATWT and VL, but since undesired celibary was the theme of the VL episode too, here are the 5 stages of Olli reacting to unwanted lack of sex:
1.) Try to change bf's mind
2.) Bitch to your really hot brother in law about the lack of sex
3.) Have a beer
4.) Take off and spend night chatting to newly found acquaintances (said acquaintance does not have to be hot in order to inspire jealousy)
5.) Inspire Jealousy + Reap public reward
(sadly the last pic is actually from a conversation of Christian with is brother)
Also...
How did I miss the kiss?
It was pretty quick. Nice,
it was natural
This was one of the tighest episodes I've seen. The lead up to Carly driving Sage to the farm, and the melt down afterward. Poor, poor Carly never gets a break. Soap opera heaven. I loved it. But I loved Dennis' Live blog more. I guffawed at every other line.
I think it was...
...Brian's blog, but I loved it, too. Hilarious! I like to watch the show first and then read the blog and I remember stuff I didn't pay attention while watching. Too funny.
I say we take the warning labels off everything and let nature take it's course.
Thanks Janet
Nicer kiss today....
Not quite so hard jawed with little smacky noises. And very casual. Why haven't they been letting them do this all along? It was just so *normal* for a kiss at that moment sitting on the porch talking about when they get a place together.
I say we take the warning labels off everything and let nature take it's course.
The Kiss....
Moving to Lily's McMansion?
Perhaps they are planning to move the kids and Luke to the Lily pad? (Maybe they have been waiting for it to be built, which would be a sorry excuse.) If so, Noah can move in, too. In the lily pad they don't have to live by Emmas rule and can share a room. And I would write Faith with a full on crush for her older
sister'sbrothers boyfriend. Really, has that scene ever been written?Luke/Van is great as a big brother. How often do we see that on a soap? I also dug Juicy Janet today! Except for the fact that she's a prude, it reminded my of my own mother.
As always
Stop it!
OMG Stop it Brian! it is 3:30 am and I'll wake the rest of the house up LOL at your recap.
Quote "Luke talks Noah into attending the most awkward barbecue since Joan of Arc."
Noah Definitely Lives on the Farm
Both Luke and Noah...
I'll be the only wet blanket regarding the latest Nukesode
Noah has been the hold-out in every respect (except moment of literal paralysis) of any physicality, much less living together in any place except in watchful eyes of even the ghost of Emma. He only lived in the dorm for five minutes to run away, and refused to do so when Luke brought it up months ago, demands room in every respect, looks ambivalent at best as Luke has been throwing himself at him, but now ....
horny, loving, doormat Luke is now made to be the blocker of intimacy and actually having a conversation about it not being a good time to move in together. WHAT? This was barely a Nukisode but more of Luke acting like the stereotype "good gay" of the Melrose era as it's all about a gay life being put on ice until things settle down. They never do. And then the insightful Little Miss Sunshine actually talks about gay marriage? Nice in principle as a PSA, but has she not noticed that they have been bf's mostly in name only? It would be like this writing team to actually have a civil ceremony for a gay couple that has never seen the other naked nor even knows enough about one another as they are never together to really know what they are about.
How about borrowing the key to Lucinda's carriage house, lighting some candles over a romantic meal and sharing time talking about sappy romantic stuff with more kissing, laying next to one another, and taking it slow instead of not taking it at all. They could even spend the night in each others' mostly dressed arms, recognizing that they both get wood when they do this, but the know that unlike Liberty and Parker's PSA, they need to be on the same boat emotionally before they go all Bel Ami. Not my cup of tea after all this time, BUT it would reflect their past by proceeding slowly by taking ownership of the speed rather than engage in dialogue that does not reflect the soap genre, life, nor cartoons. Did anyone check if Dr. Death did not send Noah a watch or jewelry as he was not acting like himself. <----- I am kidding and beating a dead horse
It's not just Nuke as the entire show is having all sorts of craziness. I also hate all this focus on the children of the corn. Little Miss Stormcloud acts like she's younger than Ethan. Every time I see her I want to choke her and tell her to get over herself. Over 50% of all marriages end in divorce and the girl has a great extended family. Being born does not guarantee stability anymore than she should be shunned for being a little on the voluptuous side or being such a grey cloud all the time. The same applies all other kids who seem to rule the show. Parker porks Liberty and it's all Carly's fault? Send that kid to lock down band camp. I am more harsh on Nuke because they are so easy to write for if they were really going for the old-fashioned courting route all it takes is using any cliche setting and having them verbalize that they'll move at their pace and no one else's.
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You hit the nail on the head Guillermo...
How about borrowing the key to Lucinda's carriage house, lighting some candles over a romantic meal and sharing time talking about sappy romantic stuff with more kissing, laying next to one another, and taking it slow instead of not taking it at all. They could even spend the night in each others' mostly dressed arms, recognizing that they both get wood when they do this,
That is exactly the way they should be handling this story. If they want to show how much more responsible and thoughtful these guys are than the other nutty characters, that is precisely what they could be doing. Showing a much more realistic portrayal of love, giving the viewers some serious romance, giving the actors *something* to do, and keeping it accurate to the character's personalities.
After all these months of the fans asking for this, why aren't they coming through?
I say we take the warning labels off everything and let nature take it's course.
Another Wet Blanket
I know my problems is rather minor compared to others, but having watched this show for a year, I feel that it's pretty obvious when Van is really engaged and using those acting chops that we know he has, and when he's phoning that sucker in.
And this last episode, Van was defintely ripping through those long-distance minutes.
I know that ATWT has a rep for mistreating it's female characters, but what they are doing to Lily is just wrong. Apparently it would be impossible for both Carly and Lily to be sympathetic in the current s/l. I like that they are showing Carly as someone who is desparately trying to do the right thing and failing, but why is Lily suddenly the biggest Harpy on the planet. It's not just NuLily's acting. I really think they've changed the tone of her character and she is just so thoroughly unpleasent.
But maybe it's me, because none of the characters except Holden seem to think she's a raging irrational witch. Everyone thinks she's perfectly normal.
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Um, I SOOOO Beg to Differ on the Noah not wanting some...
Have you forotten the sandwich sublimating "thinking about sex all the time" Noah (pre deadly daddy dearest kidnapping Ameera and diving himself to fake death).
I just recently rewatched the whole blasted thing from Luke and Noah story part 1 (unfortunately) and I gotta say I'm not buying Noah not wanting to get busy. In every possible way except for the last 3 weeks, Noah has been Mr. "I can't be in a room without touching you".
He was so into Luke that he couldn't stop himself from kissing him (tie incident) even though he was supposed to be straight and about to move in with his beloved Maddie. Further, the second he thought his father was gone, he was all "kiss me your fool" (2nd kiss) which got them caught out there (as it were). Then, in the farm house while Deadly Daddy Dearest was taking a walk (on the day of the Very Special Snyder Family Dinner) Noah was practically chasing Luke around the dining room table trying to cop a feel (Luke blocked him with hands, dishes, his invisible shield, like he had cooties).
Then on the Fishing Trip From Hell, Noah tried to makeout with Luke twice (within feet of DDD, again, Luke was all "Hand off you horny cad" ) Twice while Luke was in the wheel chair Noah was the one to subtly point out should he remain there, SEX was still an option.
Then when Luke was all walking around like a happy co-ed, Noah must have mentioned "being alone" 7000 times esp when the Gay Boys Who Have Sex hot tub party came up.
Then let's skip to the Ameera Vortex, in addition to the "I can't keep my hands off you" related comment, The first day he moved in with Ameera Noah was all "look at the bed Luke, Look at the bed in the bedroom Luke" and when Luke moved in for 5 minutes he's all "let's go to the bedroom and have some sex while my wife hovers outside the door"
Not to mention grabbing Luke in THE PLAZA (or whatever Old Town is supposed to be) and planting a big one on him despite the lurking Immigration folks (to prove that he was still into him and not falling for Ameera's womanly wiles).
I'm just saying, if anyone's been cock blocking it's been Luke. Noah has no money and no family and has kinda been playing by Luke's "I Must Stay On The Farm Come Hell or High Water" rules. Other than the crazy NYC and "In The Army Now" periods, I'd say it's Noah who's suffering most from the lack of shagging (at least as the characters have been presented so far).
We don't know if Noah's slept with a boy but we know he's been naked with at least one girl so it makes sense that he would want his first time with Luke to be , extra special, special (at least in tvland it does )
OF COURSE THE EXTRA SPECIAL FIRST TIME SHOULD HAVE BEEN LAST JANUARY DURING HOT TUB WEEKEND WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE DECIDED TO AWAY ALONE OR RENTED A ROOM IN MISS LILY'S HOUSE OF HORNY AND DID IT DUSTY/LILY STYLE (croissants and all) But...
Frankly, when Luke was all "Why aren't we having sex and Why haven't you touched me all day?!" I wanted Noah to say
"Because you're obsessed with your family and you're always smacking my hand away from your ass and I'm trying to respect YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S rules after you begged me to move back to the farm. And while we're on the subject of grandmothers, Why can't we stay at Granny Lucinda's where we can have the sex and still not have to pay rent and yet be close enough by for you to muck things out, babysit, take your mother for her weekly hospital emergency room visit and berate your father on a regular basis with just as much ease!"
You have many valid points with proof to back them up
With regard to Lucinda's cottage, it was Luke who again suggested that they live there post Ameera, but Noah was too busy needing a break, moving to the dorms, and the one wanting to move back into the warmth of that lousy farm.
It seems to me that Noah only has shown lustiness when in the most of inappropriate moments, senses that Luke is playing doormat to someone other than him, or the writers decide in advance will be interrupted by immigration agents or something like that. In that regard the writers have let Noah down as he indeed has had his comments of wanting a frisky summer.
Noah seems to love that farm more than Luke, but at the end of the day it's all the about writers creating characters who have 1,000 ways to be together with absolutely nothing standing in their way. The writers' direct correlation with deeper physical affection and penetrative sex is as flawed as the c*ck blocks that have two young adults not getting closer because they can't live together. Lucinda would cater their love-ins as she rocks.
But your perception is as appropriate as mine as you do point out some compelling examples of Noah having some moments of desire. One that HAD to be that way was the initial kiss as if Luke had initiated that kiss it would have come across as gay conversion at its worst as Luke kept pestering his "friend" to come out when he had a vested interest as he wanted him. Nothing as hot as the towel dance!!!
Differences aside about who is less interested in their bf, I feel strongly that these two guys should be allowed to own their physicality as a choice rather than by self-imposed road blocks as Luke can sneak a few hours away from his messy family to get some loving. No marriage, moving together, hospital visitation rights, hand pleasuring needs to be addressed.
As such even those of us who think that they should have made love about 100 times by now, would have to limit our critique to how different these two are to most people in real life and on the show, but not feel like we are being suckered into sticking around the stars line up just to see some continuity of the growth of young gay love.
Liberty and Parker can sneak even the most complicated sex and touching/kissing by climbing windows, running, listening to music. They call/text one another and have managed to look like they are in like with a circus that surrounds them that makes most Nuke stuff seem tame. And we're talking about kids who in principle have less freedom than the guys. I want to see romance. Yesterday was not bad, but Luke needs to get a back bone to run with what looks to me like Noah might be feeling the positive effects of the Paxil that I am assuming someone gave him. I just hope that their next storyline line does not reflect what are very real side effects of some anti-depressants as that would be cringe inducing, but more likely than their previous hurdles.
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Thanks for not making me feel totally crazy for paying
so much attention to fictional characters. I totally agree with you about everthing except the who's hornier part (obviously will have to agree to disagree) but I do think in general that folks aren't giving the character of Noah enough props for having gone through 87 traumas of his own or maybe the writers just aren't making it clear. It felt like everyone expected Noah to just come back from NYC and be all, "Phew glad that's over, now let's have some SEX!"
As for the dorms, he hated the dorms. That part seemed reasonable to me. Remember the dorms? I do. He wanted to get an apartment with Luke (luke said no cuz of the whole "you wanted to move in with Maddie too" reasoning) but Luke's (grandson of the wealthiest woman in Oakdale) solution was "the farm of no sex where my parents fight all the time".
Seems like Noah just wanted a "home" that was a bit more permanent than the dorms which made sense for his character (seriously, have you ever been the only student who's ony home is the school dorms cuz it ain't cute!). I would think the writers could have come up with something like, oh, say Noah's having his own suite in LILY's FRICKING HOTEL THAT SHE OWNS?!!! where Luke could escape to whenever he wanted.
After the whole Ameera/NYC thing (NONE OF WHICH SHOULD EVER HAVE HAPPENED) i gotta say, I would have wanted to run anywhere I didn't have to be reminded of my dead murderous father, my dead whoring mother and my WIFE?!!. Seriously, over all, could someone have a worse after coming out period? The whole time I think I was the only person going "Damn, Luke, give the dude some space and maybe he'll stop yelling at you..."
I still say the writers coped out the second that NUKE couldn't figure out that they could do it a the Lily's INN?! Easy, breezy, macNcheesy.
I think the biggest crime in not having the character have sex ealier on (before the whole Ameera thing) is that now there's so much pressure on them kissing and having sex that they aren't really allowed to have any other story line of their own. Everyone's just waiting for the next kiss or the sex to happen and given they they are such iconic characters (in tvland) that's kind of sad. Sex is very important and integral but there's so much more to coming out and having your first boyfriend that they could be exploring if they'd just get the sex thing out of the way and allow them to be affectionate like normal human beings.
Okay, I'll stop now. I totally love what you wrote and in general I love the exchange of ideas on A.E. and the way folks are breaking things down in this discourse.
Back at you! The characters are now in a lose/lose and .....
Following your perspective about Noah truly wanting Luke, I would strongly suggest that the writers have Noah be the one making the suggestion that Luke can escape being mother's little helper for just a few hours so that they can swim in Lucinda's pool and spend some private alone time so that they can get closer. He could be given dialogue to recognize that he's feeling better about all the junk that they've allowed themselves to stand in their way (as they both break the 4th wall) and the he cares and wants him to much to let more time pass without making a conscious effort not to always allow other people..... Dead horse is beaten. They can have all sorts of sexy talk and be all silly about their future, school in the fall, and thee writers can wink at the audience as much as they want as the boys promise to be there for one another and try and deal with challenges together rather than fighting one another. Cheesy and I would love it!!!!
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