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Liveblogging As the World Turns: "Welcome to Abercrombie and Fitch, We Have Much to Teach You"
Okay, this is a last-minute one, granted. But we just got word that the boys are on today and there's actual gay content to be had involving other gay folks and some kind of gay getaway. So allow me to catch you up on the ep so far and get us all up to speed, eh? Real quick, thanks to those of you who, upon seeing that Luke and Noah actually appeared today, dropped me a note to let me know (Anthony and Marcella, in particular!). You complete me! Click on through and refresh for updates! 2:58PM EST: Luke is in the kitchen (there's a shocker), and Noah comes in, and they both clumsily blurt out that they don't want to go to the Plato's Teen Retreat after all. WHAT?! Luke's all, "I'm really not into that kind of party" and Noah's all, "I'm worried that they might not have the freshest fair trade coffee beans" and they decide that they'll stay home and babysit instead. Alright, that's f*cking ridiculous. Sure, skip the hot tub hootenanny, but go for the alone time! The boys decide to go on a "moonlight walk around the pond" ... and seriously, I don't think that's a euphemism. Not in the least. Preview Time! No Nuke, but then again, they've been springing the gay boys on us out of nowhere for weeks now, including today. Right at the end of the episode Holden and Lily find a day-player dead in a car trunk (is someone cribbing Captain Pervy's flavor?) and it looks like there's lots more of that coming this week. The gay orgies in the woods? Not so much. 2:48PM EST: Noah returns and Luke has gotten over his misgivings, and needles Noah about the fact that they're basically going to spend the weekend at Oakdale's only gay bathhouse. Noah isn't bothered by the fact that there will be booze and drugs there (Luke actually uses the term "Just Say No", in classic Nancy Reagan form) and says that they can leave the party boys in the hot tub and spend some alone time in their room. I say unless Noah picked up some antibiotics along with his filmmaking supplies, that's probably a good idea. Okay, on a completely unrelated note, Em just confessed to Detective Clarice Starling that she used to be "a hooker". Her words, not mine. Yesss!!! 2:40PM EST: Back outside the coffeeshop, Noah meets Luke on the bench, and Luke tells him that he just got permission from his folks to go away for the weekend. Noah's surprised because he didn't think Luke wanted to go, and Luke says he thinks a weekend away will be good for them. And for ratings! Suddenly New Gay Redge arrives, with his boyfriend, Tony ... but I think for our purposes he'll be Bride of New Gay. NG introduces BoNG to the boys, making sure to use the word "boyfriend" as frequently and loudly as possible (it's a bit after-school special, really), and Noah excuses himself to get some more supplies for filmmaking class. As soon as Noah leaves, New Gay and BoNG start making inappropriate and suggestive remarks about what shenanigans the unbridled soap teens might get up to on an unchaperoned weekend in the country. There's talk of ... A huge hot tub! No swimsuits allowed?! Alcohol? Funny-smelling cigarettes? Luke is horrified, of course. What are these circuit queens thinking - do they not realize that they're dealing with the Mother Theresa of gay teenagers? I'm surprised he didn't ask if he could bring his little sisters and hausfrau hooker mom along! Although she'd just swipe all the drugs... Predatory gay teens! Hot tubs! HOT! 2:33PM EST: When we get back to the boys Luke and Noah are still mulling over the possibility of having a hot romantic gay getaway, and Noah points out that while he loves staying on Grammemma's couch, he really wishes that they could have some more "alone time". At this point something happens that is so completely unexpected that I have to rewind to see it again: Luke says in a tortured, raspy whisper: "I want it so bad." This is downright torrid! I'm getting the vapors just thinking about it!! 2:25PM EST: K, I know this is going to sound like I'm describing another show entirely, but I swear I don't start drinking until 3 at the earliest and this is, indeed, As the World Turns. We find Luke and Noah in the spankin' new coffee shop. Luke is still hemming and hawing about the whole "my parents are being arrested like common criminals" thing, and Noah tries to smooth things over by having him drink a sip of piping hot coffee, which burns Luke's mouth. Noah, I liked you better when you solved your problems with booze, not French Roast. Suddenly ANOTHER GAY (not Alpha Gay of course, a Lesser Gay) named "Reg" (rhymes with ... um ... "ledge"? "Pledge"? "va-"... okay, not really...) enters the coffee shop and Luke introduces him as the head of the gay group on campus. WHAT!? Luke introduces Noah as his boyfriend and New Gay is all, "well that's where you've been for the past few months!" and looks at Noah like one of those Loony Tunes castaways who sees his friend as a giant hot dog. New Gay tells the boys that another group member is having a Big Gay Weekend Abercrombie and Fitch Shirtless Wrestling Fall Catalog Photoshoot Getaway at his parents' country house and that there's a spare bedroom: would the celebrity couple like to join them? Um ... YES! Submitted by on Mon, 2008-02-04 15:06. |
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I Cannot Believe What I'm Seeing Today.....
Jealousy creeps. This is
say whaaaat?
i am sitting here shocked as to what i am reading. are we sure this is ATWT?
daaaannnnng
WTF?
Nope...
I Will Say....
.... I found today's episode bizarre and eye opening. I'm still wondering what show I just watched. I don't think they've had this much sexual content since Luke and Noah met. Clearly the new writers are at work. However, in regards to Luke and Noah's decision not to go to the party, I had no problem with it. Given who these guys are, I'd be surprised if they did go. The one thing they did make clear is that these boys want to have sex and are ready for it. They're just willing to wait until the time is right. In a real life sense, it's not realisitic. But for soap teens, it is.
BTW, I do believe that at least Luke will be on tomorrow's show. Not sure about Noah, though.
luke loves the chronic!
when BONG (how on target is that nickname!) mentions that there's going to be drinking and funny cigs, luke says he doesn't drink, and noah doesn't toke up. he doesn't say "noah and me"...just noah.
i knew it. that's why he always looks like he has the munchies.
BTW, i have found something so shocking...so disturbing...that fans of atwt will never be the same after seeing it.
it's a spoiler pic from an upcoming show that will change everything.
here it is, but don't say you weren't warned...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/snicks/aswt.jpg
http://whitewingeddove.blogspot.com/
You're spot-on
What's the Name of the new Diner?
Cocktease?
Since when did this show turn into the Brady Bunch?
Oh no, we can't control ourselves around drink and drugs and dick. Ok, maybe we can't, but still, I'm sure Luke and Noah can (grumble, grumble), and we deserve a view of the never before seen Oakdale bath-house. I bet a C note (a scrap of paper with the letter C scribbled on it) that Henry is running the place.
And, Yes Luke, we want it soo bad too.
Why is CBS hiding the Luke and Noah Episodes? Wouldn't they want Afterelton to know EXACTLY When they air?
Telling ahead of time?
We seem to be inches away from a BIG GAY ORGY!
First some hot kisses, then eons of nothing and now -- HOO YAH!
All too good to be true, I'm sure.
Love Luke's slutty friends.
Oh, my men I love them so, they'll never know...
I believe I have the vapors, Mr. Butler. I was hoping for at least a liitle shirtless boy on boy necking at the lakehouse before Nuke ducked out. And BONG may be short but he can look up and down a man like a lighthouse and still be an exihibitionist.
It is terrific but I am still hoping they go bed hopping at the lake. It would be cool to have Nuke interact with other gay teens. Just like the heteros interact with each other.
Couldn't BONG turn into SON, stalker of Noah? That could be a nice arc to the gay storyline. I can almost sceaming out "Get you hands off my man, bitch," as he reaches out to rescue Noah from a hot bondage scene.
I can dream can't I?
Um, me thinks someone did
Um, me thinks someone did not give the scab writers the "Nuke must be Nuetered At All Costs" memo. And god bless them.
I liked the ending too. Moonlight walk by the pond. Makes the sap in me get all weepy and sighy.
But please ATWT...don't make this a one hit wonder. Please! I really can not take another 8 months of neuterdom. And I won't take it.
Someone who is a long
Someone who is a long time viewer of the show will have to confirm this.
I was reading some background bio on Luke and it seems our boy has already had a drinking problem which lead to a kidney transplant. Thus maybe explaining part of his reluctance to go to this party. That and his mother's example with drugs.
Must download clip. This is such a complete 180 degree turn that I can't believe it. As I was reading the recap and the video update I kept going "you are pulling my leg" and was waiting for the "gotcha / fooled you".
Will be very interesting to see if more happens in this vein or was this just some strange blip.
Wondering if the powers that be got Ground Hog Day confussed with April Fools ? ? ?
I think you are right. That
luke is an alcoholic
go to youtube and type in "luke snyder drinking" and you'll see tons of clips from 06 which deal with it (and also see van's myriad of hairstyles)
http://whitewingeddove.blogspot.com/
Someone who is a long
Someone who is a long time viewer of the show will have to confirm this.
I was reading some background bio on Luke and it seems our boy has already had a drinking problem which lead to a kidney transplant. Thus maybe explaining part of his reluctance to go to this party. That and his mother's example with drugs.
Must download clip. This is such a complete 180 degree turn that I can't believe it. As I was reading the recap and the video update I kept going "you are pulling my leg" and was waiting for the "gotcha / fooled you".
Will be very interesting to see if more happens in this vein or was this just some strange blip.
Wondering if the powers that be got Ground Hog Day confussed with April Fools ? ? ?
Oh.My.God.
Luke FINALLY snapped out of his daze long enough to realize that he and Noah have no lives whatsoever!!!!
What a groundbreaking development!
Talk about epiphany! Maybe tomorrow he'll realize that the Snyder kitchen has replaced Noah's closet. At least we finally figured out where Noah was sleeping in the midst of the swelling population out there on Green Acres. But when you're young you can sleep on a couch with little ill-effect, although the pudgy one probably likes to sneak down and stare at him in his sleep. Maybe Grandma too.
It would probably help for non-longtime viewers if Luke articulated some of his issues. It is understandable that, as someone with a prior alcohol problem, he might not be comfortable at a gay kegger. Also, the fact that Reg's not-so-committed boyfriend was so blatantly set on parting Noah's red sea probably didn't help either. Clearly in Luke's mind the weekend would involve himself drunken and unconscious somewhere whilest Tony the Tiger deflowers the virginal Noah. Kudos to Luke for realizing that this is a soap opera and that the party is a guaranteed disaster.
Of course this means they simply must go. Supercouples are made, not born. Forged in the fires of adversity, infidelty and inappropriate nookie with other people. Surely Holden and and Lily have explained this to him?
What I don't get is this: did Luke lose his keys to Lily's house or what? Because if she's now attached at the hip with Holden out on Green Acres then it seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to slip back to the (now presumably unoccupied for at least a sizeable chunk of the day) family home and boink his bf in his own bedroom. When I was a teenager all it took was 30 minutes of the parents being out of the house for 18 year-olds to get some score! Is Luke envisioning candles, champagne and himself in a Scarlett O'Hara costume?
Am I the only was who hated most of the Luke and Noah scenes?
So all of a sudden Noah is the understanding guy who's been waiting patiently for Luke to be ready for gay sex and is being such a sport about still crashing at the Snyder farm? He even got a key. Never seen before gay guy and his bf could have been Luke and Noah's respective roomies at Oakdale U and bring something to the canvas that does not feel so fake as this scary Chi Chi La Rue Rascal production in the making. So much room for hot kissing today but instead got to see Emily rubbing up against Chris as nasty Shrek Paul hid in the closet. Rewrites please!
They could have at least snuck a few hot kisses while mom and dad were playing Scarecrow and Mrs. King/Hart to Hart and even gone to third base by the Snyder pond. Maybe if they referred to having experienced some type of sexual activity this would sound less ridiculous to me. Doesn't anyone find it odd that Puppet kid gets more airtime and that we get to see his older kid friends with more periodicity than Luke and Noah combined.
George Michael has already brought Faith to Eli Stone. He may need to start singing I Want Your Sex to Luke until our guys start acting like horned up teens who apparently have feelings for one another.
Spaceballs
Hey Guillermo, you ever see the movie Spaceballs? Remember how the Joan Rivers droid Dot Matrix had a "Virgin Alarm".
"It's set to go off before you do!"
I strongly suspect that Grandma has a similar faculty.
I do remember this!!!! Yikes......
Speaking of Emma. Where is she? Daughter in Winsconsin broke her other leg? Is she locked in some type of panic room that we've yet to see? This year already brought the farm a previously unseen microwave so anything is possible. And if there is a panic room, Luke and Noah need use it! It will take less than 5 minutes and the show can move on....
getting there...
you said "He may need to start singing I Want Your Sex to Luke until our guys start acting like horned up teens who apparently have feelings for one another."
^ for the first time in like....ever, i think the show was finally getting there today with L&N. i am pretty sure this is the only and first time they've discussed sex with each other on a pretty intense scale. i mean, shit....people all over the place were like "jigga whaaaat?"
now, hopefully..the show will keep it up, because i was not buying the "oh, we're not THAAAT horny" act the show was throwing at us. nuh-uh...they're 2 teenage/nearly 20 year old guys....hell yeah they be horny. i think the show was just scared or something of controversy or whatever. eh.
Well....
That's the point
They're in a soap opera!
Normal people in soap operas have sex anytime they're left alone in a room for more than fifteen seconds!
Granted, it's adorable Nuke discussing how they want it to be "special", as if they were a couple of straight kids fresh out of a virginity until marriage seminar. However, the realist in me is forced to consider that this scenario generally only works when there's a female trying to preserve her sacred virginity involved. The boyfriend is usually cursing Jesus and trying to think of a lie that will get the girl to drop trou ("It's not sex if it's only oral honey, I swear!"). Two eighteen year-old males would have been practicing their sword-swallowing skills in the nearest vacant corner by now.
I am in awe of the fact that they haven't exploded by now. Noah especially, sleeping on that couch with no way to relieve the pent-up pressure. His blanket has to be pitched like a tent! That or Grandma is wondering about the odd depression developing in the cushions....
But these are soap teens, which is different from the adults
Whereas Slutty Emily has slept with every man in Oakdale except Chris' father, she's an adult, the "mis-understood psychotic daughter of an alcoholic"...but virginal teens are different...even Maddie waited a few years before having sex with Casey...this is a common technique...take the likable teens and have them pine for each other for a long time before the deflowering occurs...builds anticipation for the audience.
Though, I agree, I'm tired of waiting. That Nuke-lear explosion can't come soon enough!
I have to disagree about today's teens, esp. on ATWT
Casey got to boink Gwen and was boiking a few girls before he waited for Maddie, but only because she'd been raped by her psycho sister's husband.
Paul lost it to Emily when he was in high school. Em's sister Ali lost it to Aaron while also in high school. Let's not forget the love making between the at least thirtysomething Dusty and teenage Lucy. Sofie must have had sex once. Will also had sex Gwen and Jade. And I almost forgot that Noah and Maddie had sex. Even Elmo, or whatever his name was (Casey's dorky roommate) almost got closer to home plate with Cheri, Emily's madam who also who turned out to be Noah's mother.
Luke? Nothing. Not even copped a feel ever. I wish that the Stockard Channing-aged (but HOT) naughty gay druggie bf of gay who we'd never seen before had a thing for Luke and not Noah as I want Luke to get some so that they can move on to something cute but somewhat current. At this rate, Parker will be getting some before Luke and I am not talking about any misplaced sexual rage against Sam's puppet. Speaking of which...... ATWT writers need to hit the road. Puppets and puppets on fire!!!!! I am VERY scared!
The Key Difference Here Is That......
Most of the people you mentioned did not and were not in love with each other when they had sex, nor were they star crossed couples like Luke and Noah. Casey and Gwen had a one night stand. Ali and Aaron had sex while he was in love with someone else, the same with Jade and Will (Will was married to Gwen at the time). The last two teen *love* stories (Gwen/Will and Maddie/Casey) waited at least 6 months (actually Maddie/Casey waited over a year) from the time to met to when they first had sex. And Will, like Luke, was a virgin when he first had sex with Gwen. Paul/Emily and Dusty/Lucy don't count because neither of them were teen couples when they had sex as Emily and Dusty were adults.
Should they have had sex? Sure, but it doesn't surprise me that they haven't. And actually, Luke and Noah were to have already had sex, but the new writers put it off in anticipation of their new storyline. Soaps always make their teen couples wait and wait and wait. But I don't think they'll be waiting much longer. However, I do think it'll happen just once and then they'll deal with a huge obstacle in their way. It'll show up on Feb. 22nd.
It comes down to sets and actors (=money)
I often think that what happens on the show is determined by the program's budget and soundstage space. I suspected from the start of today's episode that Luke and Noah couldn't go to any gay party because that would mean building a new set (all that work for a "one-time" set that would not have any advantage of being re-used on the show) and paying a bunch of new actors to play gay guys at the party. (These two new gay faces surprised me.) It's a lot cheaper for the show to have Luke and Noah (or any other character) just talk, talk, talk than DO something in a new environment. We haven't seen the set of Lily's house for a while now. Perhaps that set has been temporarily dismantled and stored.
Are they trying to tell us
Are they trying to tell us that Luke and Noah are not The Only Gays In The Village?????
Like... There are more of them? Seriously???
OMG! Gays are taking over! And they are bringing hottubs!!!
Is Brian Kinney behind all that?
Not too new a development
That guy you speak of was
That guy you speak of was never stated as gay. So I'm not considering him as such.
Plus I disagree. Noah and Luke are not similar to their incarnations from the
Christmas episode.
Why do I think so?
Their 19th Century selves at least are getting some at that university of theirs.
Unlike Nuke.
Not too new of a development at all
I fully respect those who are looking for any reason to keep hope alive; however the show-runners are not doing charity work and I would argue that they grossly mismanaging ATWT. Luke and Noah have been embraced by the entire audience and go beyond teens that used to be showcased only in summer months to bring in the "kids." The show-runners refuse to incorporate them into the show in a way that reflects their documented popularity.
Why did these guys not move into the existing cheap dorm sets? The writers themselves thought of it. I am beating a dead horse here, but by doing so New Gay and BoNG could have been introduced to the audience over a period of a few weeks and slowly getting in on the innocents’ lack of action. No shock and awe. Luke and Noah could have been shown doing some "stuff" a bunch of times so that the sex/lack thereof would become something else in their college lives and not THE focus. To me, yesterday's QAF introduction yesterday was a drip and brought unnecessary "shock" imagery (proposed/rejected kegger/bang/bongathon) that seems counterintuitive to their fears of how it will play in Peoria. Also, has anyone else noticed how Nuke-related sagas get resolved in one episode, ergo the antithesis of the daytime pace?
I fully agree with Anthony that there is a difference between star crossed couples and some of the examples I cited in a previous post, but as was the case with Aaron and Ali (who become an accidental couple) one or both of the star crossed lovers generally wind up hitting the sheets/kissing the wrong person for a plethora of different reasons and then get the right couple gets its act together for a while. At this point I would not mind seeing BoNG and Luke hooking up if that could serve as drama for Luke and Noah to work their way back to one another instead of serving as dueling Mrs. Kravitz in all that is Oakdale. With real conflict, we’d be rooting for them like silly fools as that is what soaps are about. Not so hard to do. It won't take away from the magic of their first time as every soap super-couple gets born again virginity when they get it right.
And to hear that they were apparently already to have had sex but it was shelved for another storyline leads me to believe that they will going to miss the boat by creating non-age appropriate hurdles that take the focus off the guys yet again. The girl that they cast for the new storyline is beautiful and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but why can she not arrive in Oakdale and find her connection living in the dorms with a fully realized college scene and gay guys who are in the middle of real conflict. Ali just got her scholarship cash from Dusty. Aaron looks like he needs to go to school in a HUGE way. New-Casey could take some-post slammer clases to educate that unexpressive face of his. Heck even the show's new forced star, Parker Snyder (nee Munson), could start hanging out with even older cool kids to continue the creation of a tweener James Dean.
While Nuke unrelated, you may want to check out this link as yet newly fired principal talks openly about Goutman. It's not sour grapes as this guy is a pro and it seems that things are so bad that no one is covering up for bad management anymore.
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Soaps-News/Exclusive-Interview-Atwts/800032420
P.S. Kudos to the actors, photographer, and Brian for the livebog picture chosen for today. This is one of the best Nuke shots that I've seen.