Meet "Mad Men"'s new gay character
We've been talking for a while now that while we love Mad Men for more than just the gorgeous ashtrays and hilarious fashions, we wish that closeted gay Salvatore (played by out actor Bryan Batt) had more to do. Well, it looks like old Sal has had a disaster dropped in his lap, in the form of a new gay character. While the revelation isn't by any means a game-changer or a huge twist, I'll put a SPOILER warning for folks who haven't seen last night's ep and continue the discussion after the break. But I will say that it was the first time the show has tackled gay themes head-on and has bumped the series way up on our must-see list. After the jump you can watch a short scene from last night's episode featuring the gay character, and learn more about the young actor who plays him. The gay in question is the firm's handsome new up-and-coming European ad man, Kurt (Edin Gali).In last night's episode ("The Jet Set"), we learned that Kurt is gay and not terribly afraid of everyone knowing it ... in fact, he comes out to the office to squelch insinuations about his friendship with fellow Bob Dylan aficionado Peggy (Elisabeth Moss) being anything more. Needless to say, this out-and-proud new arrival is bound to send closeted Sal into a tailspin. When the other guys in the office discuss their new gay colleague someone even points out that this is the advertising industry, after all, and there are gay men all over it. And then of course there's the obligatory makeover scene (the pic at top), where Kurt gets all Bernice Bobs Her Hair on Peggy. The scene where Kurt blithely comes out over free donuts in the break room is pretty shocking, both because of his obvious lack of concern over his colleagues' responses and because of the surprisingly backward reactions of a few of the regular players. Granted, this is a period piece and it's supposed to reflect attitudes of the time, but it's still a bit of a sting to hear characters you've grown to like say things like, "Which restroom does he use?" and sneer the word "queers". Will Kurt's presence lead to heightened scrutiny of Sal's Loretta-Young-fixated ways and cause cracks in the veneer of his polished closet? Based on the way the camera lingered on Sal after Kurt came out, we can probably count on as much. Honestly, as long as Kurt doesn't cut anyone else's hair, I'm happy to have him. I mean come on ... this guy's an ad exec. Does he really need to moonlight as a hairdresser just because he's gay? Edin Gali As for Gali, he's a former model originally born in Bosnia who began working in the States in St. Louis. I found a few amusing videos of the actor discussing his ability to put on an Eastern European accent by imitating his father and discussing his modeling past, if you want to check them out. Submitted by on Mon, 2008-10-13 11:17. |
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Of the actual coming out is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqo-2k6UvI
I like Smitty's response: "Its different in Europe. More for me (smirking at Joan)."
I was wondering when the
Was this realistic?
I was far too young to understand sexuality in 1962, yet my recollections of even the 70s and 80s are that it's highly unlikely that a man would just nonchalantly declare, "I'm a homosexual. I make love to the men, not the women" at the workplace.
While there were undoubtedly closeted gays and lesbians in that time period, I don't recall these issues ever being openly discussed, especially in mixed company! Aren't we perhaps trying to address issues from a more genteel, puritanical time using the standards of today?
Television in the early 60s couldn't show a married couple in the same bed (remember The Dick Van Dyke Show's twin beds) or even utter the word "pregnant". I don't find the scene in this episode to be realistic for the period that's being portrayed -- it's taking social standards from 2008 and projecting them backwards 46 years to satisfy the expectations of today's audience.
I thought their reaction was hardly suprising
and for 1962 was quite progressive, rather than "backward". They didn't fire him, or attack him, or anything. They just made some dumb, ignorant frat-boy type comments and then let it go. It was very sad seeing Sal's reaction to someone being so nonchalant about an issue that haunts him.
And I agree, the "Queer Eye" bit with Peggy was annoying and cliched. Very beneath Mad Men's usually excellent standards.
Cliched?????
Actually this is NOT the first gay other than Sal on the show
Don't you remember the first season when the guy from "Belle Jolie" cosmetics took Sal to lunch and (very decorously) made a pass at him? Sal completely freaked out -- and got married. Kurt woul;dn't seem to be Sal's type. But the way Sal is going on and on about Loretta Young leaves a MOUNTAIN of hairpins (as we used to say in the Bad Old Days) in his wake.
Surely Sal's headed for a Gay Waterloo. But I think Kurt will only be tangentially involved.
The "some men like oysters" ep
Sure, Sal had the coded dialogue with the cosmetics exec (who returned this season briefly) but this is the first time that there has been an out gay man in (or near) the office, and the look on Sal's face when Kurt came out was evidence of what a bombshell that is. This is the most head-on they've tackled the topic and I'm really curious to see what happens now that the stakes have been jacked for Sal.
"A mountain of hairpins". Awesome. I loved Sal's disgust at how Loretta would have "strangers dropping in unannounced"...
Gay characters on Mad Men
Don't forget Carol.
Carol was Joan's roommate who declared her love for Joan in one episode last season.
With Sal, Kurt, Elliot, and Carol, that's quite a collection of gay characters right there.
Shows like Dick Van Dyke
Shows like Dick Van Dyke and I love Lucy were supposed to represent an "ideal" and in no way were supposed to be reflective of how real american couples slept. What was shown on television was more about what COULD be shown on television in the 60s, not necessarily how people actually behaved in the 60s.
Madmen is ABOUT the 60s but it's being broadcast in 2008 so what can be shown on television is different (even if the show is ABOUT the 60s)
Also, the character in question wasn't American. That was the whole point. Yes it was the 60s but even in the 60s Eurpean standards of behavior (much like now) regarding sexuality and sex in general were very different.
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