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Mores for Gays video blog (103): Coming out to your boss

This week Daniel Leary tackles a topic familiar to most of us: How and when (or when not) to come out to your boss.

Since Daniel doesn't know from office politics, he enlists the help of Michael Wright, EVP and Head of Programming for TNT. Michael's one of those straight-type people, but he's got some great tips on keeping your work environment happy and healthy, and also discusses why the world of television should reflect the real world, gay folks included.

Enjoy!

joeyhegele's picture

You are so adorable Daniel

Keep up the great work!  We would be sad to lose you, but when is Logo (or some other channel) going to give you your own show?

joeyhegele's picture

Take your cue from the heteros

I am 25 now, and I have been working since I was 18.  I have worked at fast food restaurants, video rental stores (remember those), book stores (again, try to remember), and a government office building.  I came out in all those environments, but I never once made it into some important announcement.  My sexuality came up whenever my co-workers' sexual orientation came up.

If no one at work talked about their sexuality, I did not mention mine.  However, straight people usually bring up sex or sexual attraction at some point when you talk to them, so I was always honest about what gender I was attracted to.  I always treated it no differently than talking about my vegatarianism or agnosticism.  It is a very important piece of my personality, but no different than any other part of what makes me who I am.

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AddisonDewitt's picture

Sad face

Daniel I usually love your videos but this was not a good one. The best way to figure out if you should come out at work is to check and see if your company has a sexual orientation clause in the discrimination policy. The state might not back it up, but working in a company that recoginizes its gay and lesbian employees is important as a first step and is worthy of the skills we are bringing to the table. Coming out to your boss is more of a personal decision and one that should be done in terms of how comfortable you are with talking about your personal life. I have straight friends who are not as eager to talk about their personal lives with coworkers let alone their boss so it is a perogative not just localized to our community. I personally have chosen to work for gay-friendly companies and once at work be open regardless if people are comfortable or not. This is my personality and my choice. I talk about my partner and life when people talk about their lives and have no qualms about it. In fact, I get more questions then anything. But this video just seemed a little vague on how to do this more smartly. People still do get fired. We should be out to show ourselves and show people we are around, but making sure its at a place that is accepting and one deserving of your skills to make them profit is most important to start.
Nukely's picture

Policy doesn't matter

My brother worked at the HQ of a major insurance company (you'd be surprised to find out which one). He came out to his boss, who was cool, but when his boss left the job went to a christian fanatic. Who took every opportunity to remind my brother that being gay was wrong, was a sin and that he could be cured. When my brother finally reported the abuse to HR they issued a reprimand to the boss. That should have been the end of it but it wasn't. The boss became even more aggressive, leaving brochures at his desk and his comments turned from trying to save him to ridicule. When my brother reported those developments to HR they chided him not the boss. The way that HR looked at it is they had issued their warning. That was all they could do. Apparently the higher ups in the corporation where in favor of this kind of harassment even while they wanted to project that they had a policy in place to prevent it, they were unwilling to punish a boss who overstepped his bounds.

He chose to quit, which is what the boss wanted all along. He didn't want the stigma and hassle of fighting it. It is a new kind of discrimination.

Company policy isn't a guarantee that a company is actually behind that policy or even care about discrimination. For some of them it's just words on paper.

 

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did you watch the video?

Did the video offer any other solution than I did? What is yours?
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Nukely's picture

Michael Wright is cool

I should have commented on the fact that Michael Wright was thoughtful and informative. He's a true friend.

My point by illustration of experience was that having a policy in place does not mean that you will be protected by a company and that trying to enforce said policy may not be in your own best personal interest. You need to be aware of that when you come out, that the perceived protections might vanish. I know my brother would have come out regardless.

But he has learned, like we all have, that a penalty might come with comming out. We are not alone in that. Who else learns that about the penalties? The straight people like the friends he left behind at his previous place of employment. He's moved on. They also felt the sting of his dismissal, if you will, perhaps as much as he did. However, the policy wonks at that company were unfazed.

When you come out at work it's like making a stand, it shouldn't be but it is. It's like Counting Coo: you are all in. That's what I'm trying to say . Don't depend on HR to back up your life or your rights. You are gay. When we come out we say that we are willing to face the discrimination and hopefully learn and make good choices because of those lessons that we learn not in spite of them.

My suggestion is that gay folks look into themseves, and if you're ready to come out then that means that you're ready to take the joys that come with that as well as the pains society inflicts.

The fact that your boss might be accepting today doesn't matter, because your boss can and will probably change, but you will still be out at work.

 

AddisonDewitt's picture

Isn't that what I said?

Which is what I said in my original post. Frankly I though Michael Wright's comments were too light. But that is my humble opinion. I am lucky to live in an area where things are a little easier on gays and lesbians in the workplace. I realize I am lucky. But I also see it as my responsibility as a gay American to be myself in the workplace and expose straight people to a happily partnered gay man who maintains a house, is planning a wedding, and making plans to start adoption proceedings. If I was in a different part of the nation I might be more hesitant because this country is fickle. But I still maintain that the fact that your state has a discrimination statute including gays as well as a company with a discrimination policy at your place of business is a good sign that this may be a workplace deserving of your skills. There are exceptions and unfortunately your brother was one.
Nukely's picture

What you said was...

What you said was "Did the video offer any other solution than I did? What is yours?"

Please forgive me if my answer to your last question fell short or if your question was meant to be rhetorical.

 

dsc's picture

A great video about a touchy subject

I am a high school teacher in a Southern city.  I came out to my bosses last year under somewhat strange circumstances.  I thought my orientation might come up at a hearing for the suspension of one of my students.  It didn't but as the video says you can't put the jeanie back in.  Since then I have sponsered the GSA at my school and come out to my students under more reasonable circumstances by stating why I couldn't give blood.  That said, I wish I had come out in a more planned way but am glad I did itl