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"Newsweek" makes a religious case for gay marriage

 

The cover story for the December 15 issue of Newsweek, "Our Mutual Joy" (by Lisa Miller), takes a close look at religious arguments against gay marriage and what the Good Book actually says (or, sometimes more importantly, does not say) about the idea.

Much like the excellent documentary For the Bible Tells Me So, the Newsweek piece takes a hard look at exactly what the Bible says about marriage, homosexuality, and the place where the two meet. Not surprisingly, the fundamental text is not as anti-gay as many Prop 8 supporters would like us to think it is:

"First, while the Bible and Jesus say many important things about love and family, neither explicitly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And second, as the examples above illustrate, no sensible modern person wants marriage—theirs or anyone else's —to look in its particulars anything like what the Bible describes."
 

Ultimately Miller concludes that not only would conservatives be batty to use the Bible's commentary about marriage as a model for contemporary relationships (unless you want your husband to sleep with servants if you are infertile or marry several people at once, as several of the founding fathers of the Judeo-Christian tradition have done) but that ultimately the Good Book argues in favor of the stability and promotion of love that gay marriage provides.

 

 

It's an interesting piece, and a photo gallery of images like the ones above accompanies it. Check it out and discuss in the comments! 

joeyhegele's picture

At Least We Have Newsweek

Time magazine may be publishing anti-gay articles, but at least we can always count on Newsweek to be supportive.
Dean's picture

THANK GOD FOR NEWSWEEK!

It's nice to see and read where the news is clearly exploring, reporting and supporting the bible and the way it was meant to be inturrprited, and supporting the rights we should all have with out question.  Good for NewsWeek!  I just found another reason to renew my subscription!
Javi's picture

Great article

This article was very good, now if only fundies understood a coherent argument. Many people don't actually invest time to see what is actually in the bible and just take the word of religous zealots for fact. However, I wish there was a way to debunk these myths in a more visible way. The article is great and all but it can't reach those who really need to read it. I wish there was a some sort of live national televised debate on this issue in which the fundies arguments would be torn to pieces. The right's arguments hold no water.

History will remember these hate mongers as the fools they truly are. 

Luke's picture

The Bible can't be the source of morality

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It's all very well that a 'biblical' case has been made for gay marriage but I can't help thinking- why does such a case need to be made? There are false statements in the Bible. Therefore, one can't uncritically accept what the Bible says to be true. Even if Jesus had said unequivocally that '1 + 1 = 5', that wouldn't make it true. So, likewise, even if we assume the Bible says unequivocally, 'gay marriage is wrong', that wouldn't make it wrong. There need to be independent arguments for the moral conclusions one reaches, and these might not chime with the Bible. I can't help think that the article could have been better directed trying to convince people not to fall for the fallacy that, because the Bible says it, it's true.

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seanb's picture

Theoretically, you're

Theoretically, you're exactly right, of course.  But the article was written primarily for an American audience, and a huge proportion of Americans get their moral authority from the Bible.  And more importantly, a huge proportion get their anti-gay opinions from the Bible.  So to argue against the fallacy you describe would be pointless for all of those people.  Since they will continue to seek their morality from the Bible, it then becomes worthwhile to address the issue on a Biblical level.

I've believed since I was a kid that it makes no sense to believe that the Bible could be the literal word of God.  But that's how even very intelligent people continue to view it.  There are two people I know well at work who have advanced degrees, but believe that the earth was created 8000 years ago because of literal Bible chronology.  Pointing out the obvious impossibility of that does no good.  If the Bible says it, it has to be true since it's the literal Word of God.  So if a case for gay equality and gay marriage can be made within the context of the Bible, then it's worth it to give those people an opportunity to think of gay issues in a new way.

Luke's picture

But the fact that people

But the fact that people can't see that one can't uncritically source their morality from the Bible is the most important issue. Yes, pragmatically speaking, to convert people to the gay marriage cause it might be necessary to pander to incorrect beliefs. But this is far from ideal.

Ask the people who justify their position that the Bible is 100% truth, how do you know this? If they say, the Bible says so, then their argument is circular. If they say, God told me so, ask them how they know, and whether the confirming experience could be verified. It couldn't, therefore it is false. To accept that the Bible is 100% true because it is the literal word of God cannot be confirmed by any experience or non-circular argument.

I see the pragmatic case, but it should always be made with a proviso- that, even were the Bible to say that 'Homosexuality is wrong', that wouldn't make it so.

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Mister 2's picture

I highly recommend "The

I highly recommend "The Bible: A Biography" by Karen Armstrong. It's a quick, accessible read that goes into the formation of the Bible and major interpretative traditions throughout its history. There are traditions in Judaism and Christianity that clearly lean in our favor, such as those of Hillel and Augustine. 
Jackson's picture

WTH! Why would anyone want

WTH! Why would anyone want to be married? Fifty percent of American marriages fail. What's the gain?  Giving up one half of your income/assets when someone decides to take off, usually with someone else. I just don't get it. Commitment is the key, not the legalities of a marriage. And yes, I suspect I'm in the minority here .... go ahead work all your life and give up half of all you have worked for for some nebulous "advantage" of respectability. Anyone who really thinks legalized marriage is going to bring any kind of acceptance or respectability is smoking something. Be committed, be happy. To hell with legalities.
db's picture

Jackson, You don't want to get married?

Don't. But allow those who do to have the right.
Distingué Traces's picture

Accepted? Respectable?

Now those are goals that I don't give a crap about. It's nice to be respected, sure - but only by people I respect myself. And that's their choice and mine.

Equal treatment under the law, on the other hand, is absolutely non-negotiable.

No, not "distant gay traces" -- it's distingué traces!

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