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Kevin and Julia sittin' in a tree: The "Brothers & Sisters" kiss you didn't want to see

 
(All photos: ABC/SCOTT GARFIELD)

Not being terribly well-versed on Brothers & Sisters myself these days, I'm having a hard time figuring out what the hizzie is going on in this brand new batch of advance stills from the January 4th episode (wait, is that the Smoke Monster?). But hopefully the mention of "dream" in the ep's title indicates that this is all just some awful nightmare:

"A Father Dreams" - Elizabeth's illness and her uncle's sacrifice cause a volatile and emotional confrontation between Kevin and Tommy that could make or break their relationship as brothers. Meanwhile, Saul reintroduces a high school crush (guest starring Nigel Havers as Roger Grant) to Nora, and Justin finally decides to leave the nest.
 

More steamy pics after the break ... if you're into that kind of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

Metabaron's picture

So Matthew Rhys demanded a straight kiss...

hmm.

Either that or the higher ups at ABC has sent down a de-gaying order.

FilmBuff1822's picture

Jumping the Shark

I really hate storylines like this.  All gays have to try it once, right?  Well, Kevin's in his thirties and already married to a man, so it's a little late for experimentation.

One or some of the following will happen:

1. She'll become pregnant.

2. It will turn out to be a dream sequence.

3. He'll try to hide it from Scotty but someone will blurt it out at yet another family gathering.

4. He'll have an "Am I really gay?" crisis.

5. Etc., etc., etc.

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kevinfan's picture

Kevin

There's been no "de-gaying order." 

The title of the episode should be clue enough as to what is going on here.  Kevin's subconscious is just working through the knowledge that he and Julia "conceived" a child. 

It's part of a storyline about Kevin's feelings about fatherhood coming to the fore, not an "Am I gay?" storyline.

(And even putting aside the absurdity of Kevin really kissing a woman, the fact it's his sister in law should tell you enough it's a dream.)

 

 

Dean's picture

Dream no, nightmare YES!.....

This can't be anything less than a nightmare sequence for Kevin and he'll end up waking up in a cold sweat screaming, or it will end up being one in the next few episodes when the whole thing gets blurted out in front of Scotty and then the whole you "cheated on me with that will ensue".....  the most intelligent response I can at this very moment come up with after seeing this is EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW!  LOL!

jjose712's picture

As i know

it's a dream secuence. And i don't think Kevin is experimenting, because in fact he experiment in his teens, i remeber an episode when he tells Scotty that he lost his virginity twice in a tree hous, one with a girl and other with a guy (the same guy who have sex wiht his sisters and smoke joints with Justin)
Anthony D. Langford's picture

Well.....

It IS a dream, but the pics are undeniably hot.  And I'm not into that sort of thing.
Rajah's picture

Great stills...

I agree with you whole-heartedly! There is a chemistry and passion in these stills there that is often lacking in most of Kevin (Matthew's) portrayal of his relations with Scotty. I understand the apparent need to downplay the passion of Kevin and Scotty's physical relationship (for whatever reason, more than likely to appease more 'sensitive' audiences), but in reality - seeing this side of Kevin makes me wish, ever so greatly - to see if he (Matthew) has the depth to undertake such a passionate scene with Scotty (Luke). To be honest, had the same passion been undertaken in a scene of this nature with Scotty (Luke) then I very much doubt that there would be much debate on next year's Afterelton.com's Visibility Awards...
db's picture

Obviously

It's either a nightmare for Kevin or Tommy relating to Kevin being the father of Tommy & Juliea's child. There is no way this show would de-gay Kevin.
Channing Capwell Jr.'s picture

Another thought ...

 

Could this actually be insecure (impotent) Tommy's fantasy, dream (nightmare) sequence knowing that his gay brother can father a chilld, but he can't - and therefore, his wife and Kevin share something, and in Tommy's confused and angry subconscious this somehow equates to sex?   Probably overanalyzing .. lol! 

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MoJo's picture

I think I prefer your theory

I think I prefer your theory the most! It fits the characters and storylines the best, considering Tommy's past emotional woes over not being able to be The Man and fathering a child himself and how he wanted the kid to at least have Walker genes. He's just that insecure of a guy. Despite Kevin's own personal insecurities, he's always been sure about his sexuality, plus, the preview shows him as more interested in the baby than in the mother, lol.
Psionycx's picture

Tommy's Insecurities

I'm in agreement here, and part of it is just that they are way overdue for some serious examination of Tommy's personal issues.

He's always been a little neurotic, being the eldest Walker son, but not the eldest child (Sarah and Kitty being older). Thus on the one hand he saw himself as "William Jr." but on the other it was really Sarah who William saw as his heir in a business sense.

Tommy has three major issues on a personal level.

1) He's basically lost the family business. It has become very clear that Holly, his late father's mistress, has completely usurped control of the company. She's managed to drive off Sarah, Saul and Kevin and demonstrated to Tommy that she is in charge, not him.  They are not "partners" as they were at Walker Landing, he works for her.

2) William managed to father at least six children (five of them with his actual wife!). Tommy on the other hand is shooting blanks. He was forced to turn to his gay brother, who would never father a child through any means except artificial ones, for a shot of good semen. It's been a little iffy at times and this doesn't help. For a while he was able to pretend that Elizabeth was his and Julia's natural daughter, especially since Kevin wasn't very interested in being involved in any way, and neither he nor Justin had any enthusiasm for settling the "whose sperm won the race" question. But you could see how painful it was for him to admit to the doctor that he wasn't the biological father. That he had to turn to Kevin for a slice of liver, because Kevin's the bio-dad, is rather emasculating and a bitter pill to swallow, especially as it brings us to...

3) His relationship with Julia. When she had post-partum depression she left him to seek emotional solace with her parents and sexual solace from some ex-boyfriend. Now it's been reiterated that one of the things binding them together, Elizabeth, is only partially his. In the back of his mind he has to be questioning their relationship.

So Tommy's got enough angst to justify an episode worth of dark fantasies.  Which is just as well. He's come across as a bit of a prick this season and actually showing his insecurities would help humanize him a bit.

Michael 's picture

better be a dream..

oh my god.... this better be a dream sequence.... welll i think it is anyways. I saw from another After Elton article and it spoiled that in a DREAM SEQUENCE, they were to make out... i just didnt know that the pics woudl be up so fast...
Kyle's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if

I wouldn't be surprised if it the one having a nightmare was Tommy, seeing as how they always try so hard to make us like him and look at him like he's the victim.
Jon's picture

My thoughts

#1 I don't believe this is degaying or that Matthew Rhys asked for a straight kiss. He kisses women in real life, he doesn't care about whether it happens on the show. Few straight actors on TV have ever been as supportive of gay affection as he has been.

#2 B&S has been better about showing affection between men than most other shows, but I still can't help being annoyed we get more here than we ever got with Kevin and Scotty, or Kevin and Jason, or Kevin and Chad.

#3 Tommy sucks, and blows. I'm sick of the show's constant attempts to make us side with him.

#4  Matthew Rhys has a HOT HOT HOT ass. If I were the actress who plays Julia I might ask if I could grab it during one of the scenes...just for realism, you know. 

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Liz T's picture

oh no...

WTF, THEY'RE MAKING KEVIN STRAIGHT?  THIS IS AN OUTRAAAGE!

 

 

...haha, i can't believe some people have fallen for these photos. like ABC would really be that stupid.

Psionycx's picture

Julia looks a little too into it

My bet is that this is a dream sequence.  Or a nightmare sequence as the case may be.

My reasoning being that Julia looks just a tad too enthusiastic about these goings-on for it to a be just an hiccup in Kevin's homosexuality.  While I'm sure the poor dear would do almost anything to get more air time at this point, I somehow think that this stretches it. While we know Julia is not above a little adultery I would expect that she has the sense not to do it within the boundaries of the No Secrets Walker Family. So even disallowing Kevin having had his Gay Gland accidentally removed during the surgery, I see one of two options here:

1) This is Kevin's dream/nightmare(?) about what it would be like if he were the hetero son William would have wanted.

2) This is Tommy's nightmare. In this last episode it was really drilled into him that Kevin is Elizabeth's bio-daddy and not him. Tommy has a fragile ego to begin with (trying to be William II and largely failing, especially in the sperm count department). If post-operative Kevin started to express an interest in having a greater role in Elizabeth's life I could easily see Tommy freaking out. The result could be a nightmare in which Kevin steals everything from him, his daughter and his wife.

Thus my bet is on #2. While Kevin has a big enough ego to imagine that Julia would be totally into getting busy, I have a hard time imagining him having a dream about doing her on the sofa in Robert's office. If he did have such a dream I would expect he'd wake up screaming (I know I would!). Also, we've seen in the past how Kevin gets nervous even at a little flirting in his workplace. So it would be a major character shift for him to suddenly be willing to try and score his sister-in-law in an office full of Republican senatorial staffers.

I'm thinking this is Tommy's nightmare. Because the worst thing he could imagine would not only be Julia cheating with his (gay) brother (talk about emasculating!), but that she would be really into it (as appears to be the case in the pics).

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kevinfan's picture

Kevin

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So it would be a major character shift for him to suddenly be willing to try and score his sister-in-law in an office full of Republican senatorial staffers.

But this is likely Kevin's dream, not real life.  Dreams by their nature are often wildly exaggerated and "out of character."  They are rarely a reflection of reality, but rather are ways our subconscious works out difficult emotions.

My guess is that it's as simple as Kevin's psyche going into overdrive (since finding out he is Elizabeth's bio father) and translating that fact into the above scenario.  After all, Kevin "conceived" a child with Julia, and what's the most typical way of achieving conception?  Sex. 

And, yeah, I'd bet Kevin does wake up pretty freaked out. ;)

Psionycx's picture

That's why we know it's a dream

In the waking world Kevin probably wouldn't even consider making out with Scotty at work, much less in Robert's office! To do so with Julia would be just way too far out of character.

Add in the fact that, as I noted above, Julia looks really into it. In the pics this doesn't look like a case of accidental spark.  She looks really pleased to be making out.

So this is pretty obviously a dream sequence, the only question is whose dream.  I'm still betting it's Tommy's.  Obviously though it's an attention grabber from a teaser perspective which is exactly why ABC is showing it off in the trailer and pics.  They want to make sure viewers are eagerly awaiting the show's return after several weeks off.  That certainly would not be accomplished with clips of "Nora fusses over something", "Kitty obsesses over her adoption" or "Sarah continues her downward spiral into becoming neurotic".

Gabrielle's picture

I dont get why people are

I dont get why people are already freaking out! Judging by the title of the episode, this is obviously a dream sequence, though I'm interested to find out WHOSE dream this is actually, LOL. ;)

Anyways, the pics are really hot!

 

Bobbyjoe's picture

ABC, a Little Less GLBT Every Week These Days...

Well, after the network went along with killing the single transgender character actually historically played by a real transgendered person this month on "Dirty Sexy Money" in yet another pointless, brutal murder of a GLBT character and after the weird gay purge that seems to be going on over at "Grey's Anatomy," I wouldn't put anything past 'em at this point.

Still, it's obviously a dream sequence, as it fits exactly with the last episode's discovery that Kevin's the baby's actual father, and if Tommy is dreaming, as the title implies, then that's what's gonna be on his mind.

LgH's picture

Has anyone realized that

Has anyone realized that this whole controversy is exactly what ABC wanted to happen? The show is off air for three weeks so there needed to be something to keep it on people's minds for that time. I'd say this will do it..

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Rajah's picture

Quite perceptive!!!

I was waiting to see if I was alone in this thought process. You are certainly correct - this is one way to keep fans salivating for a new episode, especially through a season where their minds are sure to wander. Now, these stills are sure to create an interest in our community - I wonder if other stills have been released. I, for one, have grown interested in the show to the point of actually following the sub-plots of other characters. I wonder whose dream this is - and more importantly - what the others are dreaming of/for. I can only hope that Kitty is dreaming for a hairbrush, and Sarah for a makeover!!! 
Marea67's picture

Kevin

I doubt that Matthew demanded a straight kiss, he doesn't seem to care too much about that. Quite to the contrary, when he speaks of the K/S marriage, he seems very genuinely proud of being allowed to portray Kevin.

I also doubt that he would object to steamier scenes between Kevin/Scotty. And I believe that those scenes could be hotter then anyone else's, because Luke and Matthew have a chemistry between them.

I am curious how this scene will play out. The pictures are nice though.

Michael 's picture

OO chemistry?

ooo you said they have chemistry between them? Oh please tell me the details :)
Cat's picture

Doesn't Scotty get to have "issues?"

I know if I were in his situation I would. So maybe - wild thought - it's not Kevin or Tommy or Julia's but Scotty's dream/nightmare. Probably unlikely, but a boy can hope for more Scotty, right?
Psionycx's picture

It's the title

It's something like "A Father's Dream" or such.  That rules out Scotty and narrows the field to Tommy and Kevin.

Scotty's nightmare would probably revolve around Kevin dying from his already much-abused liver finally exploding after having a piece of it carved off.