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Breaking: Proposition 8 upheld, rallies organize across the country


For and against (Pic: GETTY)

The California Supreme Court just announced their decision to uphold Proposition 8, although the 18,000 marriages performed before Prop 8 passed will remain valid. Not to trivialize the matter in the least, but congrats, folks: Your marriages are limited-edition.

To follow the story and further discussion of the decision, check in with our newsy sibling site 365Gay.com. And by all means feel free to vent, rant, bitch, etc. here. I know I will!

Update: Rally/March/Demonstration info being added below. If you know of one in your city, drop it in the comments and we'll add to the list.

California (various): List and Day of Decision website

NYC: Marriage Equality NY March, 6PM Village-Union Square

maskbear55's picture

How stupid!!!!

Iowa makes gay marriage legal and "liberal" California say "NO WAY".   Glad I live in Massachusetts...

When they say that liberty started here....They mean it big time!!!

GaySpouseDotCom's picture

Iowa is great...

Your comment sounds like a backhanded insult to Iowa. Our justices in Iowa unanimously and correctly stated that Equal Protection under Law is the foundational basis for the rule of law and our form of government. Our Iowa justices understand that Equal Protection under Law is the heart of democracy itself, and without Equal Protection, democracy ends. Our state, Iowa, also has the highest rate of young people who go on to higher education (even higher than Massachusetts). So please don't disrespect our great state whose motto is "Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain." Also, remember among other great advancements, Iowa allowed interracial marriage nearly 100 years before California and Iowa was the first state to let women practice law.

 

maskbear55's picture

You are reading my sarcasm wrong

I am proud of Iowa....Very proud!!  You guys there get it!   Like we do here in Massachusetts.....I don't know what's wrong with California.....It never ceases to amaze me that a state that almost always goes to the Democrat in elections, who has one very liberal senator and one liberal to moderate senator and a majority of Democratic congressman as well as a Democratic legislature still voted yes on this insane proposition funded by very conservative religious groups.

 

Liz T's picture

those in D.C.

i know there is a rally at dupont circle at 8:30 tonight.....i won't be able to make it though. drats.

this really is a shame. :-(

Dane Hill's picture

We're thieves & scoundrels

but hey, the thieves & scoundrels who've already raided the public up to now get to keep their loot.  I'm deeply disappointed in my state.

Oh, and does the state now not recognize gay divorce then?  Are these poor shlubs stuck with each other until same-sex marriage is once again recognized as legal?

Ha!  Brian, where can I buy one of these limited edition marriages???  I'm an avid collector of various things.  You should see my comic collection.  If these couples can't divorce, can they at least sell their marriage to me if they don't want it any longer?  I promise to keep it sealed and air-tight in slightly used condition.  To Ebay!

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So yeah, we have a


So yeah, we have a Mormon church on the outskirts of town.  A big one.  And for some reason the dark overlords in Utah send their trainee minions over to train here at ringing doorbells or whatever.  And most Saturdays there's usually 3 or 4 of them in the main street of the town centre, spreading the goodwill - you can spot them a mile off in their whiter-than-white shirts, the tie and the beige raincoat (what we call flasher macs). 
Sooo, feeling a little bloody-minded after all that Prop 8 bollocks, I didn't wave one off when he approached me as I went about my business, and I got the usual spiel, there must be questions I have and no one to answer them, would I like him to talk, maybe come visit and talk about the teachings of his group.  And I said it's been a troubling time for me, especially on the work front, and I explained what my work involved, I'm a writer, and how I've had trouble getting a specific film project into development.  He asked me about it, clearly believing he had me on the hook, so I told him it was a thriller: a serial killer is hunting down and murdering members of the Osmond family. 
It was as I was getting into the details of how the central character was stalking Marie whilst wearing a wedding dress made of paper roses (geddit?) that I could see Straighty McWhitebread taking that mental step back: "You mean your killer is a... homosexual?"
"Who goes round picking off members of the Osmond family, that's it - so anyway, he gets Marie in a double-bubble killing with Donnie as they're showering together, and..."
At this point I can see maybe he's got a problem with this, and as I'm arguing that if the Mormon church has got enough moolah to invest tens of millions in proping up a devisive, discriminatory and hate-filled law, they could surely spare a few mill $ to fund my film - and of course with my project they'll get a return on their investment.  They couldn't lose in the long run with my idea. 
Anyway it all went into a bit of name-calling type thing at this point.  One of us *might* have said something along the lines of, "You want a piece of me, bitch?", then the red mist descended and it all turned into something that resembled Lizzy Borden meets A Clockwork Orange.  Long story short, I haven't been so inexpertly groped since a school disco in 1977, and according to him, he's going to Hell for his sins - chief amongst them being his somewhat, er, *premature* resolution to the situation in which he found himself. 
That's the problem with evangelicals - no real stamina once they've dropped their Bibles.  And their pants. 
Sorry guys, I have no offering, nothing positive to say in the face of this moronic miscarriage except my thoughts are with you - but to meet adversity with humour is a starting point.  If you're going out to protest tonight, be safe, keep humour in your hearts, try and laugh at the stupidity of the bigots, and always remember - the next time one of your opponents is caught with their hand in the cookie jar - and you know they will, because they always are - you have the chance to hold another rally.  Let everyone know how you feel about that, too.  Not so much a gay pride march as a straight shame one. 
Katie's picture

GRRRRR

Endless, thats ALL this is ENDLESS! No matter how much fighting is done we keep losing! Why or why? I can't believe there keeping it! Makes me so mad! Get with the program people its 2009! (((sigh))) looks like its time for more protests.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

People fear what they don't understand.Thats why homophobes are so scared of gay people.

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Darrien's picture

So few ways

When you're outside of California and outside of the USA, it's so easy to come across as patronising, even when you don't mean to be. But I really do feel for all those gay and lesbian Californians who've had to face the indignity of having their neighbours actively vote to keep them second class.

And I can't imagine what it must be like to have courts rub salt into that wound today. Those judges are so caught up in that strange web of Californian constitutional law that they're incapable of establishing equal treatment without bringing down their own system. Logic and common sense both argue for equal treatment, but the law calls for discrimmination. It's an insanely stupid situation. You don't deserve to be in it.

What can I say? I suppose the most important thing is to remind you that you're American. When Stonewall happened, it was the snapping stilleto heard around the world. Those drag queens and dispossesed gay men and lesbians showed that equality wasn't something one accepted - it's something that one fights for. And then there were the White Night riots. Those were a signal that pissed off gays and lesbians were to be taken seriously.

Across the world there were different arguments and different forms of debate over gay equality, but the Americans were there to show that iniquitous treatment could cause violence and break-ups of society. It doesn't matter whether you're a gay or straight American, you take equality seriously.

I wouldn't presume to tell an American how to act in the face of this indignity heaped on your heads but whatever you do it'll be supported.

Katie's picture

Im not American Either

Im Canadian but I have American friends and its mainly the sheer injustice of this entire siuation that is making me angry. This is wrong on so so many levels that its nearly impossible not to get angry about it. The right to marry was TAKEN away after it was granted because people didn't like it for some reason. In the end its the whole situation that is sad. This should never have happened and now that Prop 8 stays, theres now a need to fight once more to GAIN  a right that was enjoyed for so little time, its not right its not fair and we all have every right to be angry, Canadian or American

 

 

 

 

People fear what they don't understand.Thats why homophobes are so scared of gay people.

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Darrien's picture

I agree, it's an obscenity

I don't think I can understand what it's like to be a gay or lesbian Californian tonight. I don't know what they're feeling but I'm furious and feeling helpless. I want to do something but I have no idea what to do. I'm angry at so many different levels, but I just don't know what I can do to help
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Katie's picture

Thats My Problem As Well

I am not gay and I am not American. Im an 18 year old Canadian who can't protest or help the Californians in anyway even though I want to so badly. I know some of my American friends are protesting tonight but darn it I want to be out there with them protesting away I have wanted to help since last year but I can't and it makes me sad. I want to vent and rant and darnit help fight! 

 

 

 

 

People fear what they don't understand.Thats why homophobes are so scared of gay people.

Darrien's picture

I'm gay and I'm British

As a gay man in my country, I know that many of the rights I have were established because Americans fought for the idea of equality. Our own activists made it work for it here, but so many of those ideas came to fruition in my country because Americans established a bench mark of equality. I think that's the same in Canada. Americans created the argument and people used it elsewhere. It's so abhorrent to see the ideas of equality that were established nearly 40 years ago in America that have been used to esablish equality in my own country so easily ignored in America today.
Katie's picture

And thats

The sad irony of it all. Americans scream about rights in other countries and then refuse to give ANY to their own! ((And please be aware that I am NOT speaking about all Americans here))

 

 

 

 

People fear what they don't understand.Thats why homophobes are so scared of gay people.

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Liz T's picture

katienate...

believe it or not, you are helping the fight. you just keep speaking up whenever you get the chance and that's better than nothing IMO.

:-)

Katie's picture

Liz

Speaking seems to be the only power I have in this situation so I refuse to keep my mouth shut, if words are all I can fight with then words are what I will use! :)

 

 

 

 

People fear what they don't understand.Thats why homophobes are so scared of gay people.

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OneWorld's picture

Canadian Rally in solidarity

Here is a link to video of a rally in Toronto in solidarity with gay Californians that I found on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqFDw6evaQ

 

We in Toronto support you! Best of luck! 

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Madeleine's picture

Here's another gay supportive Torontonian

wish I had known about this before hand, but still great to see! 

You too can be saved by the blog! www.savedbytheblog14.blogspot.com 

I may be straight, but I'm not narrow.

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