ABC Drops Adam Lambert ... Again!
ABC just can’t get it together.
After the fallout from the AMA’s and the following cancellation of Adam Lambert’s Good Morning America concert, it finally looked like all parties were willing to move forward after scheduling Adam for an outdoor concert on Jimmy Kimmel Live!
It seemed his toned-down (and flawless) performances on the CBS Early Show and The Ellen DeGeneres Show were enough to sedate the nervous ABC execs, but that didn’t last long …
Adam just tweeted that not only is his Jimmy Kimmel performance canceled, but it appears they’ve also canceled his appearance on New Year's Rockin' Eve with Ryan Seacrest.
Adam seems to be taking it in stride though, letting everyone know he’s still scheduled to appear on The Jay Leno Show, and that he’s looking for new plans for New Year’s Eve. With any luck we’ll see him on New Year's Eve with Carson Daly or perhaps perform with fellow Idols David Cook and Daughtry on Fox’s New Year's Eve Live.
Wherever he ends up performing, I’m sure it’ll be well worth tuning in for. And as for ABC, well, you have to question a network that cancels an openly gay performer three times but has no problem with letting woman-beater Chris Brown appear on 20/20.
EDITOR'S UPDATE: A reader just sent me this pic of Pink performing "God is a DJ" at the 2004 Billboard Awards performing pretty much the exact same move that Adam did at the American Music Awards which aired on Fox. Pretty hard to deny there is a double standard at play now.
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Adam Lambert...Chris Brown.
Adam Lambert...Chris Brown....
i don't get the FCC heat.
is it because of the stupid complaints or simply because of what he did? i am assuming it is the complaints...which is stupid, but then again, this whole situation is pretty stupid only because it shouldn't even be a situation in the first place.
Chris Brown just has to clean his image up and i feel like that strangely, he has a lot of people rooting for him/or feel sorry for him
whatever. in the end, it's all about ratings. fcc be damned
Booo!
Now, there is a fantastic idea!
Everybody has a double
I just ran across this picture of Anderson and Adam rehearsing for an appearance on "My Life on the D List." No, wait, I could have sworn...
"The mountain has wings."
Fail!
ABC...mayor fail!
Does the FCC has any say over a performance of an artist and the network involved in an investigation? Or, are they just being wusses, thinking that will help them in the matter? Either way it just makes them look spineless.
Chiseling him out of every wall and monument, how egyptian.
The FCC excuse doesn't fly.
The FCC excuse doesn't fly. Esp. since Pink did a very similar thing on FOX in 2004 that barely raised an eyebrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPpSpBcs4wg
Yep, it's not Adam's fault, it's everybody else's...
Yep, it's not Adam's fault that things happen to him. It's because he's an artist or he's gay or whatever. Whatever.
He pushed the enveloped and went off-script and because of that, ABC is now getting investigated by the FCC. At least, recently, he's singing a different tune from those statements just right after the AMAs -- where he came off defiant and unapologetic. He's now acknowledging that what he did was not rehearsed and was unwise from someone just beginning his career.
Really
What exactly is your point?
The AMAs were NOT the first time Adam Lambert performed live on network television.
ABC's concern is completely unfounded.
Not only has Adam performed live on daytime television on CBS and NBC but he has, in fact, performed at a concert live for GMA previously.
He performed live on the Idols Tour for 52 dates.
ABC had no reason to think or believe that Adam Lambert would perform the same song in the same way on a morning show.
It's a bogus argument.
As for Adam "singing a different tune", he's simply acknowledging the affect his performance had, he's learning what the outcome was.
He is, in fact, still defiant that he didn't do anything wrong and he doesn't need to apologize. That doesn't mean he doesn't recognize where ABC CLAIMS it is coming from or that he doesn't understand why folks are offended.
There is stuff on network television every hour of every day that I find grossly offensive, mysoginist, homophobic, etc.
I turn the channel. I would rather there be expression I hate than censorship of expression.
EMINEM SANG ABOUT HIS "CHARACTER" SLIM SHADY RAPING WOMEN. RIHANNA HAD 12 GUNS ON STAGE.
DO YOU REALLY NOT FIND THAT MORE OFFENSIVE OR OBSCENE THAN A DANCER PRETENDING TO GIVE ADAM A BJ FOR 30 SECS?
You don't have to rely on Adam to see what was rehearsed, you can GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF at the rehearsal footage ABC released before the AMAs
The kiss was NOT offensive. It was a kiss between to men. There is NOTHING about a kiss between two men that is offensive or needs to be censored from children.
So that leaves the simulated bj move which as MANY people have pointed out is never, ever, censored when it's a woman doing it to a man (a very frequent move performed by female singer with male dancers)
EVERY SINGLE MOMENT WAS REHEARSED EXCEPT THE KISS (though grabbing Tommy's head and pulling him in WAS REHEARSED) and the simulated bj (though grabbing the dancer and pulling him toward his fly WAS rehearsed)
But again, what is your point? You think the FCC isn't affected by the homophobic bias of people who called to make complaints?
Let's leave the kiss out since no person who isn't homophobic thinks a kiss between two men is obscene (whether you want to see it or not i not related to whether or not it is obscene)
Let's just talk about the man on man faux bj move (because ABC doesn't seem to care about the fact that he did the EXACT SAME MOVE with a female dancer moments after he did it with the male dancer)
If the faux bj move was obscene because it was overly sexual (not because it was gay or homosexual) then ANYTHING on that stage that was overtly sexual should have been cited as obscene and offensive and in that case there are many other performers that night including Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Eminem and JLO who should also be deemed offensive and obscene by virtue of their performances all of which took place BEFORE 10pm central and pacific time.
You don't have to like Adam Lambert as a person.
You don't have to like Adam Lamber's music.
But if you really think that homophobia, heterosexism and bias against displays of sexuality that are overly gay isn't behind this FCC nonsence, you are willifully blind.
How you do or don't feel about Adam Lambert doesn't change the nature of the situation which is the aapplication of a hateful double-standard onto a performer and performance.
What's more, any human being who cannot incorporate new information into their knowledge base is an idiot so I would be sad if Adam didn't have a new perspective on the performance and the aftermath.
Adam SHOULD be unapologetic and he SHOULD be defiant. He has every right.
ABC HYPED HIS PERFORMANCE AS RACY AND SEXY AND OUTRAGEOUS AND OVER THE TOP and that is exactly what they got.
The moments he "went off script" were exactly that, tiny moments in an overall performance that was staged exactly as it had been in rehearsal.
If viewers managed to get through that entire AMA show and claim that the only thing they found to be over-the -top sexy or risque or "going too far" (not the overt displays of violent imagery and scantilly clad dancers and performers and the CROTCH SHOTS of Lady Gaga and Shakira) was Adam Lambert, they are lying, hypocritical bigots!
So with your logic, if
So with your logic, if someone showed his penis or let's say, a nipple for just a moment, it's okay just because everything else is rehearsed?
Yeah, let's talk to Janet Jackson about that, why don't we?
NIPPLES
I don't find nipples offensive. Expressions of sexuality don't offend me. I didn't see anything in that performance that I would have felt uncomfortable explaining to a child and in fact I know lots of fans with children who's kids saw it and asked some questions and it was all good.
Children don't see things the same way adults do. Children just thought Adam was playing with the dancers. There was no actual violence and everyone looked like they were having fun. That's what children see.
Now explaining why Rihanna had riffles on stage or why Lady Gaga was smashing whiskey bottles is a whole other kind of explanation.
But more importantly, Janet Jackson's nipple wasn't exposed. She was wearing pasties.
By law in most states, a woman is not considered to be exposing her breasts if her areola and nipple are covered.
But gain, nipples are part of breasts and men's nipples are shown on television all the time (and in the UK and other parts of Europe bare asses and penis are shown on prime time television on non-cable tv all the time)
But back to the issue a hand.
Adam performed dance moves that involved SIMULATED sexual acts. He did not, in fact, whip out his penis and shove it into the dancer's mouth.
His dance moves were NOT more provactive in nature than Shakira's in my opinion.
You have no reason (based on his past performances before Idol and during Idol and since Idol) to think that Adam Lambert intended to reveal his penis to the audience and neither does ABC. Their claim that he was an "unreliable" performer was unfounded. He had proven he could perform live without incident ON ABC DAYTIME previously. This performance was specifically associated with that song, in that context.
You cannot take an extreme example and try to use it to prove a point about something that isn't extreme.
And you still haven't answered my questions about why the other overtly sexual performances weren't censored and haven't been criticized?
Why has Shakira and Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga not ALSO been banned for displays of overt sexuality before 10pm.
Why did the moves Adam performed with his female dancers (one of which involved shoving the female dancer's face into his crotch and the other involved the APPEARANCE that he was diddling her lady parts) not also get called out as "inappropriate"?
DO YOU REALLY NOT SEE THE DOUBLE STANDARD AND HOMOPHOBIA INHERENT HERE OR ARE YOU JUST SO MAD AT ADAM THAT YOU DON'T CARE?
We should care. We should all care because once we let ABC, a network that has been tremendously gay positive on network and cable channels to relegate an unexpected kiss between to men to the area of the "obscene", then anyone can do it.
If this isn't about the FCC, then it's all about ABC and DISNEY and we should be calling them to task for it.
Have you seen the rehearsal footage because I have and it is extremely sexually provacative. The promos for his performance hyped the sexy, dirty, nasty to come.
IF ABC was indeed shocked by the 30 sec faux bj move (A DANCE MOVE THAT INVOLVED NO ACTUAL NUDITY OR SEX) it is because he is a gay man and the dancer was male.
If that wasn't the reason then Janet Jackson and Shakira would both have been punished and censored.
Personally, I think performers SHOULD push the envelope if they fee like it. It's their career, they can take the hit if they choose.
Adam will get lots of other gigs for New Years Eve and folks will have plenty of opportunities to see him perform. It is a risk that every performer has to take.
But I don't see how GAY PEOPLE cannot think that a network claiming a gay kiss (expected or unexpected) between two concentual adults or a sexy dance move that is VERY COMMON IN CURRENT POP is worthy or being censored or is inappropriate for children.
If over sexuality is wrong or dirty and not safe for prime time then all of it should be deemed so. That would be fair.
Yeah
It's not about being uppity,
And Rapping about Rapes under your belt isn't pushing the
envelope?
Have you seen the 2004 clip of Pink? What do you think about that?
And what's all this "how dare he? he's only beginning his career, he doesn't have the right to be controversial!"??? Madonna may have had one album under her belt, but she was still a relative newcomer when she writhed about onstage to Like A Virgin at MTV awards.
The FCC has nothing to do
The FCC has nothing to do with this. They can only fine/give warnings for something that has already happened. They can't control what networks choose to air before they air it, that makes no sense.
Kimmel and the NYE thing are both late night TV, also something the FCC has no control over. They only care about what airs before 10 pm.
This is all ABC. They're punishing Adam, and they're coming off as homophobic assholes because of it.
(Also - Watch this video of a Pink performance on Fox in 2004 (1:35): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPpSpBcs4wg&feature=player_embedded Exact same move, she pulled a male dancers head into her crotch. No one minded that, did they?)
ABC Blacklists Adam Lambert
I don't think there is any FCC heat yet. I doubt they've even got to it yet. And now there is video of Pink doing the same move Adam did in 2004 at the 2004 Billboard awards. I really believe this is ABC alone and I don't get it. Its Blacklisting. There is nothing else to call it. Someone at ABC has sent the word out that Adam Lambert is not to appear. The Jimmy Kimmel appearance was after when the FCC watches and there are links to that fact too. The FCC is not a factor in the cancellation of the Kimmel appearance. I think Adam was trying to keep the heat off ABC so he didn't burn any bridges that he might have in the future w/appearances.
I just think that blacklisting a performer so blatantly sucks. Its 2009 not 1950's!
"You bit the hand, Marty, You bit the hand!"
Even the Prudish Conceded that ABC Is being very OTT About Adam
Even the "offended parties" who officially complained about Adam Lambert's performance admitted that they were NOT trying to have him blacklisted or anything of the sort.
Quote from Access Hollywood interview with Parents Television Council, Dan Isett, Director of Public Policy
They said the above in response to the initial canceling of his GMA performance. I wonder what they'd have to say now...
Here's a video of pink
Here's a video of pink
Pink
This country is so stupid.
You know, in other countries they can show the actual act that Adam "simulated" on television at that same time of night.
Americans just wouldn't know what to do with ourselves if we didn't constantly have a reason to get our panties in a wad.
oops
Regardless of how you felt
Eh.
I can't get too worked up about this. I don't think they should have cancelled all of Adam's performances, but I don't get how this is a double standard. I don't understand how Pink doing something similar on Fox and getting away with it makes ABC hypoctical.
So a gay man can't simulate oral sex with another man in a performance on network television during primetime. That's unsurprising, and I'm mostly fine with it, though I agree that standards should be the same for all performers. I'm sorry, I just don't feel like this is a huge injustice.
DANCING WITH THE STARS DOES ITS FAUX BJs WITH A BOUNCE!
Dance With The Stars on ABC Primetime
Group Mambo Competition
Joanna Krupa & Derek Hough (Orange Outfits)
Simulate everything but the reverse cowgirl!
Points 2:22 and 4:34 in the video
(not EVEN counting all the stradling of faces on the floor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HlPQcUFIoM
This is out of control!
You don't know what you are talking about.
Point #!. The FCC couldn't give a rat's ass about the AMA stuff. Cite me the last time the FCC was involved in any of this stuff.
Point#2. So ABC - the network that had OLTL today have gay guys talking about sex and has Modern Family and has quite a few gay characters in both the regular network and ABC Family is suddenly aiming at a gay performer?
power struggle at ABC?
This entire situation is very strange. You make some valid points, yet the fact remains that the network's ongoing blacklisting of Adam Lambert seems way over-the-top.
Could there be some behind-the-scenes boardroom power struggle going on at ABC/Disney with Adam being just a convenient pawn?
What we need is a source from the inside to leak some information...
Yes, that is what I was thinking....
....RJ, there is something else going on behind the scenes. It's like Ellen said on her show the other day, if you are going to be offended by what Adam did, you HAVE to be offended by all the other examples of the same thing, or your argument holds no weight. ABC is shooting themselves in the foot if they continue on this path.
I think they are using Adam Lambert as a whipping boy- making an example of him. See what happens if you f**k with us? But, it is seriously going to back fire on them. In this age of the internet, nothing gets past anyone. Every example of this is going to be brought up.
And still, Adam is handling it well, and not lashing back at them. He is a class act (even if his song the other night wasn't).
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
Adam Lambert’s cancellation on ABC
Seriously who at ABC is making these decisions? Do they not know how bad this looks? All of these shows start after 10 pm in any time zone so the FCC crap does not fly. ABC is being homophobic and vindictive. Hopefully one of the other networks will pick him up for New Years Eve. Also where I live on the East Coast FOX prime time shows run from 8 pm -10 pm so the year Pink performed it well before 10 so the FCC will hard a hard time trying to fine ABC if it did not say a peep about FOX in 2004.
Again.....
I don't understand the rating of the tv show on this country.(because there are many female singer performance very very sexy and erotic dance with male dancer on many music awards and some of them are dressed in not like a singer but like............)but they no facing any problem and complain by audience.(especially the (homophobic) parents ,and they not have problem about that though their children watch it.)but because of He is gay(Adam)performance like that.everything is wrong and sick.(isn't that AMA is a adult music award and it already late for the show ?)bst,i not shock that Adam performance like that way cause everyone knew that who he is started from AI show.(if Kris Allen performance like that,i think all the us people will shock.(lol).)I think another reason they drops him was he'still new on entertainment market compare with another female singer.(ABC don't wanted to take a risk if they think that it a risk for them.).Anyway there are still strong homophobic in this country .
HOMOPHOBIC + DOUBLE STANDARD=LOSER
We will see who is the loser in the future.
..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
MOM PUT'S HER MONEY WHERE HER HEART IS FOR ADAM
This woman who is a physician and mother of a 3 sons (one gay, one straight and one bi) had decided to throw some money behind her dissatisfaction with the way Adam Lambert has been used by ABC to make some bizarre point.
http://gossipcandy.com/2009/12/wonderful-people-still-exist/
Proof that what is or isn't offensive cannot be determined by demographics alone and that it is up to fans who support freedom of expression (even expression that we don't like) to stand up and say how we feel about this kind of thing.
Thanks to Gossip Candy for the news.