Asshat Smackdown! for June 10, 2009
You might be familiar with our regular Friday feature, Battle of the Network Gays, where we ask you to crown the Gay of the Week. You folks seem to enjoy crowning people a lot. Hence our new feature: Asshat Smackdown! Every Wednesday we'll ask you to select from a current crop of schmucks, jerks, demagogues and harpies to see who is most deserving of the week's coveted Asshat Crown! We'll announce the results right here on the blog on Friday, and that asshat will reign supreme until a new challenger is crowned the following week. Curious to know more about the challengers this week!? Check them out after the break, and vote for your favorite! This week's contenders: 1. Pat Robertson. The 700 Club's grand poobah pontificated on the origins of "so-called homosexuals" and placed the blame on abusive coaches and guidance counselors...
3. Those pro-Rob & Arnie trolls who registered here at AfterElton.com to defend their favorite talk show hosts on First Amendment grounds. Nothing wrong with that in itself, but then they proceeded to make ridiculously juvenile ad hominem attacks against regular readers who disagreed with them. Stick around guys, your asshat-ish company is a joy!
4. Jon Voight. True, he hasn't done anything in particular to the gay community, but his recent, rambling turn as master of ceremonies at a Republican fundraising dinner (their biggest of the year) was so batsh*t crazy that we felt he merited a mention. In jaw-dropping hyperbole, Voight blamed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd, billionaire George Soros, and senior White House aide David Axelrod “and their ilk for the downfall of the country,” and called Obama a "false prophet.” Last time we checked these were politicians, not the Anti-Christ and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Midnight Cowboy needs to get a grip.
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"I am not at all persuaded that so-called homosexuals are homosexuals
because of biological problems. There may be a very few, but there are
so many that have been made homosexuals because of a coach or a
guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them and
they think there's something wrong with their sexuality. So you need to
get deep into why he is what he is, instead of just saying, 'Well, he's
a homosexual so how do I handle him, and how do I be Christian?' Well,
I think you ought to tell him, 'Listen, son, you know, here's what the
Bible says about this, and it's called an abomination before God, so
I've got to tell you the truth because I love you'...I mean, if
somebody's on their way to hell, they'll -- I mean, you've got to love
them to rescue them."

Not Pedro Espada
I'd hold those Asshat votes on Pedro, he's announced he's a supporter of same-sex marriage and wants to get the Senate to vote and Monserrate claims he's undecided.
Their coup may actually deliver same-sex marriage since the Democratic leader seemed to have made a deal with Diaz to hold it up.
In the end Republicans may deliver same-sex marriage for NY. Now that'll be ironic!!
Pat neglected to add...
Youth ministers and priests to his list of potential abusers. I'm sure it slipped his mind. He is becoming senile.
I can't find a link for it at this moment, but, back in the 1980's, Robertson publicly said that it was perfectly acceptable to kill homosexuals. So I'm certain anything he has to say with regards to LGBT folk ain't worth shit.
I hope whoever called him for advice got a second opinion afterward.
Espada may turn out better than Malcolm
Espada may turn out better than Malcolm for the Gay marriage bill. According to the NYTimes Espada, wants a vote on the gay marriage bill, even if he doesn't have 32 guareenteed votes like Malcolm Smith wanted.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/new-senate-president-wants-vote-on-same-sex-marriage/
Weird world
I'm going to take the admitedly strange position of defending some (though not all) the Pro-Rob & Arnie trolls. Even though I didn't agree with them at any level and loved the arguments and wit (Liz - your posts made me laugh like a hyena sitting on an anthill) used by the regulars of this site against them, at least the Rob & Arnie lot came here.
Granted, most of them didn't undersand why were pissed off and most of them didn't understand the philosophy of free speech, but at least they weren't afraid to defend their position. And they weren't afraid of gays - they didn't just sit outside and snipe: they actually got engaged with us. They weren't just a bunch of homo-haters. OK, some of them were obnoxious, but some of them genuinely wanted to explain why they believed what they believed.
Yep, it's a weird world when I'd start defending trolls (for so many years I'd just toss them to the billy goats gruff), but these trolls didn't just barrage us with hate speech (although some did) and that's a major step forward in how we're perceived, when you think about it.
;-)
glad i cracked you up. i do what i can.
"but some of them genuinely wanted to explain why they believed what they believed."
^ i may be wrong, but all the trolls seemed to be yelling and telling us to get over it. i don't remember anyone being genuine about it.
I'm fine if people have a different opinion than me, but simply saying "WELL, FREE SPEECH, FREE SPEECH! GET OVER IT" is not a mature person, i think and it's not going to help the debate. if you are for free speech, then i automatically assume in every sense of the word. name calling, death threats, etc....and i continually tried to bring that point up.
we have rights, but last time i checked, we have limits. do we not? they couldn't defend themselves against the points i brought up. you wanna debate? you better know how. simply telling me "well, it's this way and thats why it's ok" is not what i would call even defending the position.
anyways, i'm not calling you out. I personally can't defend them. they came on AE to obviously get people riled up, otherwise their responses would've been more mature and not so much yelling the same crap over and over again
Pat...
voted for Pat Robertson.
do lesbians also get abused by coaches and whatnot, sir?
what about people who were abused who are with the opposite sex? they're the lucky ones, i guess. they prayed their desires away.*eye roll*
geez, i would be more angry and pissed off at the coaches, priests, next door neighbors, whatever else that are DOING the sexual abuse to these little girls and boys...and not the victims. i mean, why pray for the victim? why sit them down and say "well, YOU need to change"?
if anyone needs to change, or go to hell, it's the people who are abusing the children.
idiot
Pat Robertson could be
the asshat each week, every week. Don't need a special reason to vote for him one week, over any other...
This week has to go to those asshat traitor NY Senators who have gone to the dark side, especially at a time when they were really needed. Shame.
Pedro Espada is a hero!
So many choices...
Never thought I would have the chance to decide who's the biggest d-bag of the week, but its an enjoyable game with fun outcomes. What better for a blog poll question? Pat Robertson is a funny fellow with an interesting (i.e. detached) view of reality. For him (and mostly the rest of us) the rapture couldn't come any sooner...
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Can we just ignore Pat Robertson?
I'm not saying the guy isn't dangerous, but seriously, every time he speaks I just respond with a "eh". The guy spouts the same crap he's been spouting forever. He's slowly turning into a less brash version of Fred Phelps. He is an asshat, but that has already been well established, and now we are feeding into his publicity machine by getting up in a huff every time he does something.
I think it's time we just start brushing him off. I know I'm going to catch flack for saying this, but it's honestly how I feel. Ol' Pat is a battle we'll never win, because there is no way his mind will ever change. Sadly, most of his followers are the same way. If we just brush them off, then he'll have to get louder and more extreme to get our attention, and before long people will just look at him like some ranting crazy (something the gays have known for a long, long time.)
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It has got to be
Pat Robertson! Why doesn't his heavenly father just call him home already? He has spread enough lies and hate filled vitriol on this planet. I feel confident that when he reaches whichever place he beleives to be heaven he will be denied with an emphatic "That's not what I meant Asshat!"
Gay and lesbian rights are not special rights in any way. It isn't "special" to be free from discrimination. It is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship."
Pat Robertson
Definitely Pat Robertson, what he said was disgusting and uncalled for. He is discriminating against us, saying we will go to hell.. Yeah, nothing I haven't heard before from Christian fundies, but it still sucks..
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Trolls
I agree
Candidate for Asshat Award - Gene Simmons
FOX 29 News
http://mjsbigblog.com/gene-simmons-tells-adam-lambert-to-shut-up.htm
From MJ's Big Blog
KISS co-founder, Gene Simmons, dropped by the FOX Philadelphia studios yesterday to talk about his A&E reality show, Family Jewels, but he also had a few thoughts and some advice for Idol runner up, Adam Lambert.
While Simmons said Adam is “great and has a lot of talent,” adding that “he’s got a future if he wants to sing in Queen or be on Broadway,” he doesn’t think he’s a true rock singer in the mold of Rolling Stone’s Mick Jagger.
He’s also had some advice for Adam, “Mostly he should shut up about his sexual preferences. We, America, the rest of the world, really don’t care,” he added, “I mean, if the story becomes ‘I prefer farm animals to,’ you know, who cares?”
Uh, that’s quite a leap there, Gene.
The ever modest Simmons had this to say about performing with Adam at the Idol finale, “How was it for him to perform with us, you mean?” he said. “That’s right, I see. Well, you just have to realize who the governor is and who the little puppy is.”
That’s right, KISS is so relevant to rock music, Gene is now relegated to appearing in some crappy A&E reality show with his family…
"That's our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay sentiment." (Bayard Rustin) ** "Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common" (Dorothy Parker)
oh...wow
"shut up about his sexual preference" - - loving that line. nice
i also love how he just had to bring in the damn farm animal argument. he says "who cares?"
well, obviously HE cares if he thinks adam needs to shut up about his sexuality.
i'm sure he'll go to therapy and complain about that kid who just cant shut up about his sexual 'preference' because we all know how damaging it is to talk about something that has nothing to do with other people's lives.
Comparing Drake to a farm animal?
Robertson's employees think he's crazy, too
A relative of mine used to work with Pat Robertson's TV network. She said virtually everyone there considers him nuts and they have him on a 5 second delay so they can cut immediately to an ad when Robertson starts saying totally crazy shit on the air.
He has a huge obsession with muscular men, too.
Vote Voight
This is the same guy that publically announced his daughter was insane (Angelina Jolie, lest anyone forget) and ruining her life. So much for reliability and honesty.
A schmuck is a schmuck, is a schmuck.
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, and Ted Haggard are in the Hall of Fame, no use to vote for them.
That's all I am saying...
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I can't disagree with you. But this is a whole new feature and it's weird to actually have power to do a meaningless vote on a website that has no importance on the career of the people upon whom we're voting. Well, not importance in the greater world, but massive importance personally just to be able to vote on someone who is simply a silly human being.
You're right about Jon Voight, but I kinda assume he'll reappear. I went for Pat Robertson just so I could lance a long-festering zit. He was the easy, safe and comfortable choice in this new system. Totally agree that Jon Voight was a logical choice. But the methusalianic Pat was a way of establishing some kind of balance before the real bitch-fight begins