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At Home With Fred Phelps

BBC News has an interesting interview with writer/reporter, Louis Theroux. Theroux spent three weeks with the Rev. Fred Phelps who runs the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka Kansas and organizes those incredibly vile pickets you often see at large LGBT events. The ones with signs reading "GOD HATES FAGS" or "AIDS is GOD's PUNISHMENT."

I've always been curious what sort of perverted minds would consider it their life mission to spew such ugly vitriol. The BBC interview with Theroux shines some light on the subject and so for me was worth reading.

Some basic facts about Phelps: He's the head of Westboro Baptist Church and the church's 71 members are mostly Phelps' extended family. (They all call him "Gramps"). Phelps has 13 children. Four of these kids "fell away", meaning they left the Church. Once anyone leaves they become ostracized by the rest of the family.

The BBC asked Theroux why he was motivated to spend three weeks with Fred Phelps and his family.

"What we're trying to do in this documentary is look at an activity that is so antisocial, so strange, so futile and at its worst, so cruel, and we're saying 'Why? Why do that?', especially when you seem to be, for the most part, kind and sensitive people. We're exploring what is cruelty, trying to explain how something that really does very often just amount to cruelty could be perpetuated and passed down in a family. Why would nice people do such horrible things?"

Theroux thinks he found an answer...

"I think that the pastor is not a very nice person. I think he's an angry person who's twisted the Bible and picked and chosen verses that support his anger, that sort of justify his anger, and he's instilled that in his children and they've passed it on to their children. Although the second and third generation are by and large quite nice people from what I saw, they still live under the influence of their Gramps.


"It shows you what strange avenues the religious impulse can take you down. I think another part of the answer is that parts of the Christian Bible are pretty weird. There's a lot of weird stuff in there and when you take that and you add this angry, domineering kind of a father figure, which is Gramps, and you add that he has sort of separated them off from other people, other families and driven them to achieve a lot, and he was kind of a charismatic guy, and still is up to a point. He was a very verbal, very persuasive, an extremely compelling speaker. All these things added together combined to make a powerful influence."

Theroux's documentary, The Most Hated Family in America, airs in the UK on Sunday on BBC Two. No word yet on when or if it will be shown in the US.

 

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  • Trogdor the Burninator's picture

    Louis Theroux is great.

    I love the guy - you've got to have some balls to go hang out with a bunch of neo-Nazis, then follow it up by spending almost a month with the Phelps family. It helps that he's white and straight, but still. Damn. Though he is awesome, this might be the understatement of the century: "I think that the pastor is not a very nice person."

    Really? You think? Not a very nice person? What ever makes you think that?

    Evan's picture

    The Most Hateful Family in America

    They live on hate.  Hate is their life.

    Anonymous's picture

    Aussie Comedians flirting with Fred Phelps

    AUSSIE COMEDIANS FLIRTING WITH FRED PHELPS This is really funny. I recommend you guys check it out. The look on that Fred Phelps face is priceless. I don't get how people that hateful and disgusting are allowed to preach in America. Seriously, looks like Fred Phelps and his ilk just want attention. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cN2pB3MCE It's on youtube-it's called "Flirting with a westboro church man."
    Anonymous's picture

    I loved watching this!!!

    I loved watching this!!! Especially when that other member (who used to do documentaries) started sprouting on about Jews and stuff, Louis just hit back with "Newsflash: Jesus WAS a Jew". But Louis is correct: that Gramps definately was picking bits out of the bible and twisting it. And what was with the "interview" with gramps "you have wasted an opportunity to ask me questions" ---> Christ, all he wanted to know was how many children you have!! But you have got to admit, when they had to give an answer they have a way of taking the LONG way round to answer it... That phelps member that was asked about questions regarding boyfriends kept smiling in such a fake way...i swear she was about to cry...she liked to answer the questions with a question of her own...
    Anonymous's picture

    Phelps family and Louis Theroux

    I watched Louis' program with my wife in England and we were deeply deeply disturbed by what we saw. Louis did a fairly admirable job by staying as objective and reasoned as possible. We tried to see the good the Phelps were doing and if you dug deep enough there was a little. Their reasoning that to adhere absolutely to Gods teachings enables you to enter the kingdom of heaven is the way to live your life - for most Christians is what we all believe. But what they have blindly followed is that you must adhere to the teachings that they read into the Bible. In one way I suppose all Christians do that but we are not so prejudiced and blinkered to think that you will split hell or be sent to eternal damnation if you make mistakes and are prepared to seek forgiveness. Also surely the 10 commandments are the principles that the Christian world & most others are directed to adhere to. My family are not part of their church, we follow the 10 commandments and we bring our children up to respect their Church of England religion, the law of the land and other people no matter what their religion, race or creed. Tolerance is something which the Phelps seem to lack except when dealing with their youngest siblings. We felt very sorry for the youngest members of their family who will be forced to grow up with this bigotry and who will eventually be made to believe this is the correct way. We felt even more sorry for the 20 year old daughters who don't have time for relationships or enjoyment. Ever so sad when you realise their mother has had her fun and 11 children later seems to be more than jaded with such things. Who can be surprised? She seems most hypocritical. The most disturbing point to the whole program though was the way is which they showed two sides to their personalities. The first - fairly normal feeling caring people - the second an immediate and quite frightening switch of mood to extreme paranoia and a deep hatred for anything they didn't know or understand. People need to realise that groups of people like this are usually controlled and led by one person and their Gramps is the angry, twisted and prejudiced man, who has throughout his life sought to control and has succeeded to the very greater part, only because most of the devotees are family. I sincerely hope when he passes on soon that his daughter does not take his place and that they realise the only good they are doing appears to be damage to themselves. I hope God forgives them - I have a feeling he will forgive them but society probably will not. It will likely take several generations for them to lose this evil streak they possess. They need to see some of the world and not just the USA. Billions of people can't be wrong and just 72 right. If that was so, God would not be doing his job very well! We wish them the best and hope one day they realise that life is not as black and white as they percieve and that your life can be so enriched if you are just prepared to give a little bit. Joe - Weston-super-Mare England
    Anonymous's picture

    But what does Phelps want?

    OK, I think I've seen enough to figure out what the Phelps believe, but what do the Phelps (and God) want? How do we get God 100% on the side of the USA again? If Americans kill all homosexuals in all our 50 states, will no more soldiers die in Iraq? Is that the Phelps's solution? I sort of think that MUST be what the Phelps's want to be done, but why don't they just come out and say it? They don't seem to be afraid to say anything else.
    Anonymous's picture

    These people are really sick

    These people are really sick and not worth much time or energy wasted on them. They seem tobe fixated on homosexuals - I wonder if they are battling homosexual feelings and tendencies within themeselves and they are trying to deflect these feelings onto others. Their time would be much better spent on some real Christian missionary endeavor. The real victims in this whole situation are the children. They are being endoctrinated in hate - the little girl didn;t even know what she was doing at the demonstration or what the signs meant - that is abuse in my book. This behavior will catch up with them and they will loose these childen one way or another. Fine if this Phelps fellow has an axe to grind about America or the world - don't warp the children's minds.
    Anonymous's picture

    But what does Phelps want?

    OK, I think I've seen enough to figure out what the Phelps believe, but what do the Phelps (and God) want? How do we get God 100% on the side of the USA again? If Americans kill all homosexuals in all our 50 states, will no more soldiers die in Iraq? Is that the Phelps's solution? I sort of think that MUST be what the Phelps's want to be done, but why don't they just come out and say it? They don't seem to be afraid to say anything else.

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