Twitter War: #biggaybattle Draws Some Big Guns
Before it gets ugly, let's dial it back to adorable.
When we started coverage of our Man of the Decade poll, it had already been going on for ten days, quiet and uneventful. Mostly, we were amused and flattered that people like Neil Patrick Harris and John Barrowman had noticed it was happening. Sure, we'd interviewed both before, but we weren't expecting anything but an accounting of our membership. We knew how big it was, and thought we'd entice it into voting by playing with the fact the leaders, who were in a dead heat, had made 140 character campaign speeches.
Once we noted that the cards were stacked a little in NPH's favor because he had more Twitter followers, the campaigns took off though, with Jonathan Ross stepping into the fray in support of his friend Barrowman. At that point, it seemed, it was on.
Celebrity endorsements started flying at 140 characters, and the whole thing went viral. Saturday and Sunday endorsements rolled in with Nathan Fillion, Felicia Day, Chris Hardwick, Alyssa Milano and Alyson Hannigan all throwing the might of their nearly 4 million followers behind NPH, who seemed to have forgotten the whole thing.
Barrowman tossed out the occasional tweet between acts of the pantomine he was doing, and picked up a total of 2.2 million followers by adding endorsements from author Neil Gaiman, Vernon Kay, Tom Price, and Paul Cornell.
Then NPH came home or answered his phone, and discovered what his offhand tweet for votes had started. And he tweeted again. And was heard.
Refusing to leave late night to Jonathan Ross.
People had been after Jimmy Fallon to not leave the late night interview show front to Mr. Ross all day Sunday. But as soon as NPH himself asked for help again, it was on. The goofy, sometimes lovable host sent out three messages to his 2.3 million followers in support of NPH.
He had good timing, too, since he sent it around midnight. Prime activity for his base.
It's unclear how many folks he rallied, but even a fraction of them would be a big voting block.
Adorkable comedian's unite!
Hal Sparks, known to most of our readership as Michael from Queer as Folk, picked up fellow comedian Chris Hardwick's tweet about stuffing the ballot box while the British slept. His 22k followers picked up the amusing U-S-GAY chant Hardwick had pitched to his.
So far, Hal's the only person with a NOH8 portrait on his Twitter profile. Bonus points.
Will his active and visible gay role, both on television and in the NOH8 campaign make his call stronger?
It's an actual Whedon speaking up!
There's been no denying that much of the support for NPH has come from the Whedonverse, with Whedonesque being one of the early split endorsers. They loved them both if you read the thread of commenters over at Joss' extremely loyal fan site. But we hadn't heard from an actual Whedon. Maurissa Tancharoen, Joss' sister in law and frequent collaborator changed all that with a single tweet.
Does she speak for the man himself?
No word on whether she can push the legions of Whedon to side with Dr. Horrible over Captain Jack, but her 10k followers are probably a safe bet.
He runs one of the most popular pop culture sites on the web.
Media has been slowly picking up the story, with Whedonesque and SciFiWire being the first. But new media has a voice, too (besides our mellifluous own), and that voice is Perez Hilton.
The retweet power of Twitter takes anything viral.
Perez has 1.6 million followers, but can be a polarizing figure in the world. We'll have to see what kind of influence he can have to help NPH. One thing I can definitely say though - his dog, Teddy, that he uses as a Twitter background is adorable.
The anti-endorsement.
It's not all going Doogie's way though. One of the more interesting developments has been from the self-professed bi-curious bear, Kevin Smith. The man behind such quirky hits as Clerks has amazingly frank discussions with his 1.6 million followers, and it's fascinating, because it's very much a conversation, and he's engaged. It's also not PG-13.
Not precisely an endorsement of Barrowman.
There's some bad blood between Kevin and NPH over an interview where his friend Jason Mewes got badmouthed in an interview. Still, hate is a powerful motivator, often more than love. You can read the whole story on his Twitter, which he was quite frank about. It may be NSFW.
John has some old media clout, too.
Team Barrowman can also add the entire circulation of the UK tabloid The Sun, which has picked up the story and run with it in an interesting convergence of old and new media. We take minor issue with them contending John has "begged" for support. His fans have begged, but having followed this closely, I'm yet to see Captain Jack on his knees.
The ginger surrenders. I love a little rhyme.
We know that Jesse Tyler Ferguson's character Mitchell on Modern Family is non-confrontational. That's why his marriage to Cameron (and by extension, Fizbo the Clown) works so well. But we didn't know he wouldn't want to square off in the Twitter war. But he's conceded.
Magnanimous in defeat.
Since I don't have access to the results of the voting, I was unaware of his stealth write in campaign. In fact, it was so stealth I think he succeeded in that part. Still, we find the actor adorable, and if this whole voting thing doesn't bring the site to it's knees, lok for some expanded coverage of Jesse this week. His 6,000 followers are now aimed towards Doogie.
I can't say I didn't see this coming.
The Bilerico Project are actually AfterElton.com friends, but pop culture isn't their specialty, politics is. They write a lot of great coverage from a diverse set of voices trying to advance GLBT rights, and for that we're grateful. But every once in a while, politics and entertainment intersect, and they end up with pictures and video of themselves with Cory Monteith of Glee, and I'm totally jealous.
Now Bil Browning wants to attract the attention of NPH. We had mentioned he was after our favorite stalking spot, in the tree that overlooks NPH's pool, but now, with his political skills, he's lobbying for the win in the poll. Professional management, Neil? That's getting awfully fancy.
Sorry, this poll is only open to creatures with opposable thumbs.
Somehow the issue of dogs has become big in this whole thing - it started with Barrowman's Twitpics of him greeting his pups Saturday night. Then fans added pictures of NPH & David with their dogs. And up top I did the same. But now they're actually tweeting in support of Barrowman, which is likely to be optioned as a new movie from Disney.
Do they type with their tongue or paws?
Still, it is impressive how pets have come into play here, and oddly, it's all canine, no feline. The close up of the pup is from the Dog's Trust Flickr site, by the way, and you can just sit and go Aww! for hours.
These guys know how to spell "sci-fi"
Airlock Alpha is what was founded after SciFi Wire was sold to NBC to become the backbone of SyFy. So they are natural fanboys. And to them, this is a crazy battle between iconic actors in the genre. I think it's great that they're playing along, because we often whine about gay representation in science fiction. So we get reminded that there are many, many gay geeks, and gay supportive geeks.
Something more than our amusement may come of this.
We mentioned above that there seemed to be some hurt feelings between NPH and Kevin Smith that came to the surface with this whole poll. NPH has a reputation as a stand-up kind of guy, and took the issue to heart.
Something else to remember.
He has a point - the celebrities involved understand that this is all in fun, though the honor is real. We'd like to remind the fans, which by my measure have been amazingly polite with their campaigning, to keep it that way. I love how so many apologize to one when they announce their vote for the other.
Oh, and Neil? You may be better off behind Barrowman - if he's behind you, he might pinch your butt. Oh, heck - he'd definitely pinch your butt!
Aww - wonder if he wants to cuddle?
Aww, see, the #biggaybattle can heal wounds. This is what it's all about folks. Above we see that NPH apologized for a long-ago interview where had had some unfortunate words about Jason Mewes. Well, Kevin Smith has heard him, and responded.
Wonder if they'll hug it out?
Mediate has noticed.
We continue to have the media pay attention to our little award thingy. The fine folks at Mediaite have initiated ongoing coverage of the whole thing, including the NPH/Kevin Smith aspect, which as we know, has been hugged out.
The Dayton Daily News
Blogger note: We were contacted by Tony Black, the author of the piece, and he asked if we'd update the references to the Dayton Daily News, which is the parent paper of Middletown Journal in which his work also appears.
But I'll be honest, it's the Dayton Daily News from Ohio that makes me smile. Sure, we're in the movie blog, but this isn't some liberal media outlet on the coasts - you don't get much more heartland than Dayton, Ohio. Sarah Palin would probably be willing to live there, or at least endorse the people, as "real Americans."
I can't speak to the editorial nature of the Dayton Daily News, but it it seems to be a classic, subscription-based community paper, not a give-away in the nightlife part of town. Plus, they chose to cover the poll as a story, not any of the sensational aspects. For that, I tip my hat. I'm honored you noticed us.
Isn't there a banking crisis?
Yeah, you're seeing that right. We've gone from middle America, to the coastal media giants at the Wall Street Journal. I'm really speechless on how that happened. I can't be witty or snarky, I'm dumbstruck.
My proudest achievement to date.
But it's getting coverage, however snarky, in The Onion A.V. Club. It's the proudest moment in my life - getting The Onion to notice something you do is just one step below Jon Stewart in my book. Granted, they only call out the boss by name, but I'll take credit for the "gleefully chronicling" they talk about.
Time to hear from one of the participants
Well, each one of the main players in this seems to give us an update in the evening. Joining with his American opponent, John Barrowman wants to take this back into the real of fun.
First the Dr. Who joke. Wonder if he read the EoT piece today?
He then seems quite humbled by the sheer number of people involved in the campaign. Frankly, so am I, and I've been the one trying to keep up with it!
I guess the passion expressed really is a warm fuzzy.
And finally, like NPH, he wants us to remember that this isn't about adversaries, this is about two great men at the top of their game taking an opportunity and running with it, so that they, we, and the gay community at large wins.
There is a lot of amusement, but zero animosity.
Let the Gay Off continue!
You too can follow the battle via this widget, currently tuned to the #biggaybattle hashtag that Neil Gaiman bestowed on the competition. It doesn't catch everything, but it catches a lot.
And don't forget to cast your one vote per person before polls close midnight Tuesday, January 5th.
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JB v NPH
God! it seems all gay Internet community involve in that battle and somebody becoming completely crazy to defense their candidate,hehe,looks funny,anyway i voted for Sir John,i think he deserved that much more then those two hotties,yes they are both great and talanted,no doubts,but called one of them "man of decade' it's too much for me,no offense for you JB' and NPH' fans:)
I'll be happy no matter who
Middletown, OH
Long time reader, first time poster...
Just wanted to say congrats to all involved in this: it's been a huge bit of really positive news and it's been highly entertaining. Hopefully it'll generate some well-earned exposure for the site.
Well done all!
P.S. Captain Jack all the way.
It's a long, difficult process. And can we just skip it, can you just be kissing me now?
John or Neil?
I had actually already cast my vote (not John, not Neil) before the decade battle commenced, so my support now (for JB) is of no influence to the final score, I'm afraid to say.
So, JB has support from Jonathan Ross and others, but what about Graham Norton or Stephen Fry for instance? Rupert Everett? LOL! Are they keeping silent because they are pissed for not being on the list of contenders?
I haven't read the whole debate though, so maybe Stephen and Graham (and others) have commented. If that's the case, forget I asked.
Totally entertaining, this! Indeed ♫ ♥ ♪ ♫
Timing is everything....
Stephen Fry's timing..
Make them wrestle for it
What A Great Idea
let me envison this for a moment. Okay...now I have to wipe off the drool.
Big, Gay, Superpowers!
And sell tickets for charity.
I've been maintaining since Neil threw his hat into the ring and I first Tweet!whined about having to choose between NPH and John that this should be used for good. Like superpowers. Like big, gay superpowers, because that's what we've got going on right now.
This is getting coverage in a positive light at a time when it seems like the LGBT community's only been getting bad news lately, and we need to do something with it. I think every "Vote Barrowman" or "Vote NPH" tweet should be followed with a fact about the inequality we face every day, because just as a result of the word "gay" in the title they're fighting over, they're automatically a lesser-privileged citizen in many countries. Hard to do in 140 characters, I'm sure, but even something as short as "Vote (whoever) because he couldn't get married to the man he loves in my state" would at least be doing *something*.
I know this was originally intended as just a fun romp of a poll, but it's escalated into a "thing" now, and I think we need to find a way to capitalize on that.
(And in case anyone was curious, I've been just voting back and forth between the two of them, futile as that is, because
I'd much rather have them tie and have to wrestle over the titleI can't decide between the U-S-Gay of Doctor Horrible and my lovely Captain Jack as I love them both too much.)Enjoy the fun ride
Enjoying the Internet battle. I would love to see these two in a "gay off" somewhere where they give a direct video plea for votes. LOL! WOuldn't it be funny if a third gay celeb surged ahead and one? NPH all the way!
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10, 2009.
is still LOLing...
...because the title of this post is the caption of one of the macros I made this morning based on the "measuring tape" comment in the last post. >.>
http://twitpic.com/wnmwo
http://twitpic.com/wnd44
Vote Barrowman! And hell, I'm an American. xD
At first, I considered the twitter war fun but meaningless...
but I now realize it is a more positive development than I first thought. Ten years ago, I can't imagine two celebrities, openly gay or not, openly campaigning with their straight fan base for the the title of Gay of the Decade as determined by a gay web site.
Issues like marriage equality and the repeal of DADT are orders of magnitude more important than this (and I'm sure NPH and JB agrre with that) but this is also positive progress - and a lot of fun to watch
That's my favorite part...
of this whole thing too.
That, and the dogs.
You're not mad at me?
How could I be mad...
at you, Ed?
Besides, my dogs refuse to be disenfranchised based on human delusions of superiority. They vote with their noses, of course.
I agree. Everytime a
Vote Neil!
OS2Guy - WarpCity.com & OS2Guy.com
HEY! I love 'em both but my vote goes for NPH (and David Burtka). They are my total favorites altho I wouldn't throw Barrowman out of bed! Vote Neil today!
There's only one winner here... but no losers
'll discuss all of that in the next BGWE.
A good kickoff
Yay, good, I'm very curious. What an interesting way to start off 2010!
Neil v. John
I think as long as this poll is considered in all good fun, we can enjoy it. I obviously, being a Whedonite and member of Whedonesque, am voting for Neil, but as I stated at the Black, having to choose between John and Neil was like pulling the wings off of a fly (painful to me and to the fly, not that I would actually know anything about that - I'm using my vivid imagination).
I do love them both. Sigh. So mean, because you know, abstaining would be a weinie move and I can't do that.
Neil's latest tweet
@ActuallyNPH: Strange. Feels like this is turning adversarial. Know that I'm a fan of JB and if he wins this poll, I'll happily stand right behind him...
I've already voted for JB, but comments like this from NPH are why it was a tough decision!
Kevin
re: JB v NPH
Go Captain Jack!!
I hope you don't mind my posting. I'm an AfterElton and AfterEllen reader and I'm blown away that this poll has gone global!! Would this have been possible even 10 years ago?? It's all media hype (sorry *g) but it makes me smile because it's acceptance and that's a great thing (and about time).
We like who we like!!!
Go Captain Jack (and Ellen D.)
And now I'll go back to lurking until AfterEllen does a poll
Oh, for cryin' out loud!
I deeply regret getting involved in this at all.
Seeing slogans like "U-S-GAY" makes my stomach turn!
THIS IS NOT A BATTLE US VS. UK, for heaven's sake! Barrowman has dual citizenship and has probably spent more time in the US than the UK!
It's all been fun and games up to now but just as someone predicted on Sunday, it's getting uglier now. (Nobody would want the f*** SUN on his side!)
I am relieved to see NPH apologized about the Jason Mewes comments and took the hate out of that debate (Kevin Smith has just replied with "Classy, sir. Appreciate it. I'm sure @JayMewes appreciates it too. Doogie would right something learned about this in his diary. Thx.")
My karma must suck bigtime now. Can I go back in time and start a campaign for Dustin Lance Black instead? Please, universe, can I?
Where's Blackadder's time machine when you need it.
I just hope all the people who couldn't decide who to vote for voted for George Takei and in the end we have a surprise winner!
Stephen Fry
Loving the twitter war and all the publicity, as other's have mentioned it's great to have this as a title that gay and straight people are excited about, even though it's not that serious a thing, it's still cute and shows an awesome level of acceptance.
My only question: I dont understand why Stephen Fry isn't in the running. Did I miss a post where the reason was mentioned? He's surely the gay god of the universe. The most accepted and lauded gay man in britain, a 'national treasure', I would have thought of the decade that Stephen or Sir Ian would have been a shoe-in.
I am Australian though so I may have missed a down-turn in his popularity or something, but he's still my gay god.
'Life is short and hard, like a body-building elf.'
Stephen Fry
We're all winners no matter who wins
Maybe not begged, but asked Please, pretty please
JB posted several "Please I need Ur help" tweets on Jan. 2nd :)
I can't believe how big this got. It's funny and positive too, I hope it is.
this makes me...
this makes me almooost want to get a twitter account....but no, i won't give in.
this is great though. fun way to start the new year :-D
Liz! You look so different.
Liz!
You look so different.
I'm the one for you 'cause I know all the dirty things you like to do.
- "Thanks a Lot" by Third Eye Blind
LMAO
yeah i needed a new look. oh hell, i always need a new look.
;-)
Lord
Even the WSJ cares!!
They voted for NPH btw.
Ian Mckellen!!
All this talk of a wrestle-off...pshaw
What we need is a "sing and snog off".
Here was have two great entertainers vying for a, forgive me AE, delightfully silly award.
It seems to me the best solution is a good-natured bi-continental 90 minute variety show, simulcast on all present and formerly Viacom-affiliated networks in the US and on BBC1 (okay, maybe BBC2) in the UK. Each one lines up the writers and fellow performers to give us 45 minutes of boffo entertainment each...and then we vote in such a way that raises tons of money for their charities.
This will have so many positive effects: (1) 90 minutes of great entertainment, (2) a viewer voting program will be unaffiliated with Simon Cowell for once, (3) It will make Fred Phelps' head explode, (4) charities make tons of money, (5) the power of the pink Pound/gay Dollar will be revealed, and (6) there will be something worth watching on CBS that doesn't involve dead people or crime.
Oh, and the snogging part involves 5 randomly selected AE members (including the one who suggested it) who, um, sample the wares and vote accordingly.
The great gayoff of 2010....
Sounds like a fantastic idea
Sounds like a fantastic idea to me! I would absolutely watch that show!
Especially if they called it 'GayOff 2010'
Congrats AfterElton
The Big Gay Battle and Memes
This entire business has been so much fun and I have enjoyed it so much!
How about just the fact that we can be having this contest/ discussion and that it's all over the web, the news and the world and people are talking about who to back, but not the nature, integrity or morality of having such a contest??! That we can have a contest of this nature taken as run of the mill, normal, everyday fare and the discussion is just which hero to back?
Can I hear a FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC!!!!?
GO Team AE!!!
You beat your Pate, and fancy Wit will come: Knock as you please, there's nobody at home.
Alexander Pope
I have a big grin on my face
So the American celebrites
Ah Perspective check anyone?
That's not entirely true! For example Neil Gaiman would have endorsed NPH if he'd asked first, but he didn't.
Also, what a way to take away the worst possible thing you can from a wonderful experience!
You beat your Pate, and fancy Wit will come: Knock as you please, there's nobody at home.
Alexander Pope
An American for Barrowman!
Order of ballot ...
Excuse me if someone else has mentioned this, but is there any particular reason for the order of the ballot? Voting being as it is, the order can be extremely important, especially in cases where you can only vote once. The higher up the order, the better, because people often get to a name they like and vote for that person before they have checked out the list in its entirety.
For that reason, names are usually either listed alphabetically or randomly pulled out of a hat. In this case, it seems extremely unlikely to have been the latter as the two most popular contenders are listed one and two. It is possible, of course, but I suspect not. If the names had been listed alphabetically, John Barrowman would have been on top of the list, with Neil Patrick Harris somewhere down the middle. Under these circumstances, it might be have been interesting to see how the voting would have turned out if that had been the case. As it is now, it has been clearly set up as a "showdown" between two men; one listed above the other for no apparent reason.
Am I reading too much into this or are there those at AfterElton - a site with a clear North American bias - who are subtly angling for a NPH win?
Incidentally, I am an Australian and I voted for Sir Ian McKellen.
Original Post
Did you read the original post? The site actually named Mr. Barrowman as Nr.1 and then asked what the readers think, but I don't know how they chose the order of the poll.
http://www.afterelton.com/bgwe/12-23-09?page=0%2C6
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I think the real winners of all of this is the AfterElton site and Michael and the whole AfterElton team. You guys run a GREAT website and it looks like this has given possibly millions of folks the opportunity to take a look at the site while they were voting. Personally as far the vote goes, NPH has had mine since last week, but it has been really awesome to see how this has caught fire.
Wow, thanks so much!
Dogs & NPH
Ok, since I kinda started the picture posting, one last attempt to sway all the dog lovers in Neil’s direction, here you go ;)
um... re-enacting Lady and the tramp = WIN
take THAT! ;-)
Well Then
Does this make Johnny the Lady or the Tramp? ;-)