There's a dinner party - and Scotty is a guest, not the cook!
While previews make it look like all Kitty, all the time tonight, some spoilers I've read lead me to believe that we get Sarah back tonight, along with a possible surprise to some. Join us tonight, 9:45pm EDT for all the fun!
I am disappointed with the lack of complete conviction from ABC about the gay-married couple on the show. They both were just lying in bed together after getting closer about having a baby and said "I love you" to each other and sealed it with a kiss? No, that must not be normal behavior for a gay couple dealing with family drama, cancer, baby. No, normal behavior is to have Kevin roll away right after hearing "I love you" from his husband??? WTF?
If it were a straight couple there would have been passionate embracing and kissing, at a minimum.
AND, what a missed opportunity: to just drop a normal loving behavior in a gay relationship. This is the most perfect storyline to show their affection as normal.
Are the sponsors scared? Is ABC just chicken? I mean, they made a script error in showing normal loving relationships and we're supposed to accept it as okay?
Almost, but not quite equal treatment. Close but no cigar.
As stoked as I am that we finally saw Kevin and Scotty in bed togther, shirtless no less, I have to agree that it sucks that they couldn't kiss. Especially since as usual the episode began with yet another of the now seemingly mandatory opening shots of Justin and Rebecca crawling all over each other flaunting their heterosexuality.
You're right about the progress to see them in bed together...
And it is just that it was such a humanly understandable situation that was an opportunity to show "normal" behavior in a gay couple so that "normal" people wouldn't freak and would sympathize.
And I'm sure starting out like you say... young straight sex was an absolutely necessary and integral part of the storyline. ;-)
Lately there's been lots of subtle things that jump out at me on this.
As noted there's obviously the fact that Justin & Rebecca are routinely shown crawling all over each other like a couple of ferrets. Indeed, this is usually the opening scene standard nowadays. I guess they think that in order keep people from changing the channel they need to start the episode with some young, straight sex.
Then there's the wedding equality notion. Already the producers have put more time and money into Justin & Rebecca than they did into Kevin & Scotty. Heck, both J&R's engagement party and K&S's wedding were held in Nora's house. But just J&R's engagement party was more opulent than K&S's actual wedding!
I also had to laugh at the end of this episode where there was throwaway dialogue where Nora mentioned that J&R would need to do "tastings" to select a wedding caterer and Kevin retorted that "My husband is the best chef in town!".
Yes, Scotty is a marvelous chef, and he just loves to cook for weddings. He cooked for his own remember? Just like some Medieval kitchen slave...
Don't even get me started on how they wrote Kevin as abandoning Scotty on their wedding night to go tell Nora the "urgent" news about Ryan.
While I acknowledge that they're trying, the reality is that they seem oddly...I want to say insensitive to Kevin & Scotty's relationship. The writers seem much more comfortable depicting Kevin having strong emotions towards any character other than Scotty, whom he often seems oddly formal with.
Kevin was on the edge of tears when Robert had his heart attack. He was fixated on the situation with Julia and Elizabeth (to the point of having an erotic dream that included a makeout session with Julia hotter than any he's had with Scotty!). Now we saw him (and Saul) weeping over Kitty's cancer. Interesting too that I think they're the only ones, leaving me wondering if this is a subtle commentary that gay men are more prone to getting weepy than heterosexuals.
So to me it does seem to have reached a point where they are visibly uncomfortable depicting too much intimacy or emotion in Kevin & Scotty's relationship, except for when the emotion is anger or annoyance in which case they will happily show it in great detail.
It's not a horrible depiction but it is very clear that Kevin & Scotty are handled very differently than other couples on the show like Kitty & Robert, Justin & Rebecca and Sarah & whoever she's schtupping this week.
Interesting too that I think they're the only ones, leaving me wondering if this is a subtle commentary that gay men are more prone to getting weepy than heterosexuals.
I'm unclear about this seeming fixation on gay men and any hint of what you see as effeminacy. But for the record, we later saw Justin crying over Kitty (in the scene where Rebecca asked to postpone the wedding). And he's a straight guy, so that undermines the theory that the show is trying to force the message that Gay Men Weep.
Kitty is their sister/niece. Naturally they're upset. Everyone's upset. It's not about sexuality.
I agree that K/S aren't treated 100% equally, but they have been shown a lot closer (physically and emotionally) this season. Their scene at the end of last week's episode was very touching, and did end with a kiss.
And while I concur that a kiss would have been the perfect ending to last night's scene in bed, we should not lose all perspective. That was still a very intimate scene, with the physical proximity and the whispered ILY's (and they even hinted the guys sleep in the nude). It was presented as any other scene in the episode, no fanfare, just an organic development to their surrogacy storyline.
We're not totally there yet, but B&S is still paving the way. It's far and away the best depiction of a same-sex relationship on network TV.
I totally agree with you. In the coming episodes all we are going to see is Sarah and some random French dude going at it. Always some heternormative folks, never the gays. Screw ABC. Wait, screw the producers or B & S.
There's a dinner party - and Scotty is a guest, not the cook!
Wait A Minute...
Still skiddish of the 2 married guys kissing???
I am disappointed with the lack of complete conviction from ABC about the gay-married couple on the show. They both were just lying in bed together after getting closer about having a baby and said "I love you" to each other and sealed it with a kiss? No, that must not be normal behavior for a gay couple dealing with family drama, cancer, baby. No, normal behavior is to have Kevin roll away right after hearing "I love you" from his husband??? WTF?
If it were a straight couple there would have been passionate embracing and kissing, at a minimum.
AND, what a missed opportunity: to just drop a normal loving behavior in a gay relationship. This is the most perfect storyline to show their affection as normal.
Are the sponsors scared? Is ABC just chicken? I mean, they made a script error in showing normal loving relationships and we're supposed to accept it as okay?
Lamar
Almost, but not quite...
Almost, but not quite equal treatment. Close but no cigar.
As stoked as I am that we finally saw Kevin and Scotty in bed togther, shirtless no less, I have to agree that it sucks that they couldn't kiss. Especially since as usual the episode began with yet another of the now seemingly mandatory opening shots of Justin and Rebecca crawling all over each other flaunting their heterosexuality.
I guess closer is better than...
You're right about the progress to see them in bed together...
And it is just that it was such a humanly understandable situation that was an opportunity to show "normal" behavior in a gay couple so that "normal" people wouldn't freak and would sympathize.
And I'm sure starting out like you say... young straight sex was an absolutely necessary and integral part of the storyline. ;-)
Oh well, some day, eh? Someday.
Lamar
Kevin & Scotty - 2nd class
Lately there's been lots of subtle things that jump out at me on this.
As noted there's obviously the fact that Justin & Rebecca are routinely shown crawling all over each other like a couple of ferrets. Indeed, this is usually the opening scene standard nowadays. I guess they think that in order keep people from changing the channel they need to start the episode with some young, straight sex.
Then there's the wedding equality notion. Already the producers have put more time and money into Justin & Rebecca than they did into Kevin & Scotty. Heck, both J&R's engagement party and K&S's wedding were held in Nora's house. But just J&R's engagement party was more opulent than K&S's actual wedding!
I also had to laugh at the end of this episode where there was throwaway dialogue where Nora mentioned that J&R would need to do "tastings" to select a wedding caterer and Kevin retorted that "My husband is the best chef in town!".
Yes, Scotty is a marvelous chef, and he just loves to cook for weddings. He cooked for his own remember? Just like some Medieval kitchen slave...
Don't even get me started on how they wrote Kevin as abandoning Scotty on their wedding night to go tell Nora the "urgent" news about Ryan.
While I acknowledge that they're trying, the reality is that they seem oddly...I want to say insensitive to Kevin & Scotty's relationship. The writers seem much more comfortable depicting Kevin having strong emotions towards any character other than Scotty, whom he often seems oddly formal with.
Kevin was on the edge of tears when Robert had his heart attack. He was fixated on the situation with Julia and Elizabeth (to the point of having an erotic dream that included a makeout session with Julia hotter than any he's had with Scotty!). Now we saw him (and Saul) weeping over Kitty's cancer. Interesting too that I think they're the only ones, leaving me wondering if this is a subtle commentary that gay men are more prone to getting weepy than heterosexuals.
So to me it does seem to have reached a point where they are visibly uncomfortable depicting too much intimacy or emotion in Kevin & Scotty's relationship, except for when the emotion is anger or annoyance in which case they will happily show it in great detail.
It's not a horrible depiction but it is very clear that Kevin & Scotty are handled very differently than other couples on the show like Kitty & Robert, Justin & Rebecca and Sarah & whoever she's schtupping this week.
Re: B&S
I'm unclear about this seeming fixation on gay men and any hint of what you see as effeminacy. But for the record, we later saw Justin crying over Kitty (in the scene where Rebecca asked to postpone the wedding). And he's a straight guy, so that undermines the theory that the show is trying to force the message that Gay Men Weep.
Kitty is their sister/niece. Naturally they're upset. Everyone's upset. It's not about sexuality.
I agree that K/S aren't treated 100% equally, but they have been shown a lot closer (physically and emotionally) this season. Their scene at the end of last week's episode was very touching, and did end with a kiss.
And while I concur that a kiss would have been the perfect ending to last night's scene in bed, we should not lose all perspective. That was still a very intimate scene, with the physical proximity and the whispered ILY's (and they even hinted the guys sleep in the nude). It was presented as any other scene in the episode, no fanfare, just an organic development to their surrogacy storyline.
We're not totally there yet, but B&S is still paving the way. It's far and away the best depiction of a same-sex relationship on network TV.
I totally agree with you. In