Soapy! Brit soap gets a gay wedding and four days of "Nuke" kisses
It's interesting to see how much further UK soaps are in terms of gay visibility. From across the pond, it looks like gay relationships are pretty common in soaps like EastEnders, Coronation Street or Hollyoaks. Gay relationships have gone past being part of envelope-pushing storylines to being just as complicated and flawed as their opposite-sex romances.
However, watching the "Nuke" relationship on As the World Turns this week gives me hope. Not only did we get the fourth episode in a row to show the kiss between Luke and Noah (a nice way to signal — at the least — that our worries that the relationship would be buried didn't pan out) but the kiss has had the kind of aftermath that is the hallmark of good soap writing. After breaking from the kiss, Noah raced to meet his father and Maddie for a lunch, where he suggested that he and Maddie move in together. Maddie, who recently decided to stay in Oakdale for college so that she could stay near Noah, was quick to accept the idea. Noah, meanwhile, is noticing how his father's attitude has changed — since meeting his girlfriend, Col. Mayer has stopped pushing for Noah to join the Army where they could "make him a man," as he put it.
We also saw Maddie's brother Henry learn about her plans to move in with Noah, prompting a heart to heart talk asking if she was moving too quickly in the relationship. Scenes like that — where an event is explored through different perspectives as the news spreads — are a key element of soap opera writing and something that ATWT has been lacking until yesterday. It's nice to see ATWT come together around one of its better storylines. Still, considering how excited we are to see the first gay male kiss on our soaps, it's interesting to see how much farther along things are (as ever) on UK television. Submitted by on Thu, 2007-08-23 14:28. |
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While we're enjoying the first gay male kiss on As the World Turns, soap viewers in the UK have a 
Yesterday, we saw a Noah confess to Luke that wanted to kiss him and that it wasn't a joke, as Noah initially tried to claim. It was another powerful scene for Van Hansis and Jake Silbermann, with the two debating whether being out was a convenience Luke could pursue but Noah couldn't. Luke is in a classic soap opera love triangle situation, where he knows that all the paths ahead of him will hurt his friend Maddie, just as he faces heartbreak himself.
Well as you guys already
Well as you guys already know, I don't like to brag about these things...but the UK really does do it better. *nods head very matter of factly* Uhuh, girlfriend.
Anyways, I'm really pissed off with how this Emmerdale storyline is panning out. Paul is supposed to be a very close friend to Perdy and also Grayson is supposed to be really in love with Perdy regardless of the fact that he's gay. I know, I know...some people will probably be inclined to believe that that is impossible as he's gay. But how the soap has portrayed the relationship and the chemistry between the actors who play Grayson and Perdy, they have made it very believable in my eyes that these two people are soulmates. So having Paul and Grayson fall for each other and supposedly have an affair is proposterous. Yeah Grayson has had gay affairs in the past, but they have only really been one night stands and have taken place far away from home. But for this one to be right on their doorstep makes it really unbelievable in my eyes. I can't see how Grayson could do that to Perdy and the same goes for Paul.
Oh well if this is the way the story has to go, I just hope they do it well with good acting and even better writing (in order to explain the stupidy of Grayson and Paul's actions).
Nuke on the other hand is coming along nicely. I loved their conversation in yesterday's episode and it seems As The World Turns really does have some good writers. It's a shame the rest of the storylines seem so shoddy.
funny
"wedding proposal comes as a desperate attempt to keep the relationship together."
^ funny, as this is just happened on another popular UK soap besides emmerdale. i'm sure some people know what i am talking about.
Oh yes but...
"wedding proposal comes as a desperate attempt to keep the relationship together."
^ funny, as this is just happened on another popular UK soap besides emmerdale. i'm sure some people know what i am talking about.
Yes, but the difference is, Johnny isn't proposing in order to stay in the closet ;). Craig needs a slap.
haha, no...craig needs more
haha, no...craig needs more than a slap. someone needs to hold him while someone else (jp) puts a nice big foot up his butt. *sigh* craig frusterates me. LMAO
You sure you meant big
You sure you meant big 'foot' in that sentence there Liz? ;) Because if you didn't, I'm pretty sure John Paul has already shoved his big '****' up there many times already. Yes, John Paul is the top no doubt about it, regardless of how straight Craig makes himself out to be.
On a more serious note, Craig doesn't frustrate me as much as makes me incredibly sad. It's horrible how much internal homophobia is ingrained in a child growing up so that something as pure and true as Craig and John Paul falling in love with each other has to be a complicated and incredibly hard process to come to terms with. More in regards to Craig not John Paul, who has had the easier job in many respects. I can understand how annoying and frustrating it is when Craig does something as stupid as proposing to his beard when it is obvious to the audience where his heart really lies, but you have to think about why he has done it. He is so scared of society judging him and labelling him 'gay'. Heck even myself, who has completely come to terms with who I am, and I am not ashamed of it whatsoever, even I have a major complex about how other people perceive me. Do I look gay? Do I sound effeminate, am I camp? The actual attraction to men isn't the problem, the stereotypes surrounding it and the stigma attached to the word 'gay' is. I sympathise immensely with Craig. Part of it is his own fault, but society itself also has to take a major part of the blame.
LMAO, yeah i meant foot
LMAO, yeah i meant foot alright. putting his 'whoooa there' (as my friend calls it) up there would not punish craig. haha
yes, i know what you mean by still feeling a bit self concious about who you are- even if you're comfortable. i tell people i'm gay and get the "you don't look like a dyke" remarks or "you don't act it" crap.
OY
Wow, who that?
Wow. Who is that guy pictured at the top? He is gorgeous. That is so awesome that they are doing another gay wedding on UK TV.
Is the Doctors gay wedding video available on YouTube? I'd love to watch it.
What Drives Me Crazy.....
.... about Jean Paul and Craig is that Jean Paul knows he's being treated like crap, but can't help himself because he loves Craig so much. It's frustrating, but how many people IRL do we know who trap themselves in these no win relationships? It's pretty watchable television and the acting is great.
I recently started watching Emmerdale and I was wondering what the circumstances of Purdy and Grey's marriage was. But the above post explained it to me. My problem with the story is that there is no chemistry between Paul and Grey. None. I'm just not seeing it. I'm ashamed to admit part of it is because Paul's boyfriend is a nice guy and smoking hot. And Grey just average. Average is fine (and looks certainly aren't everything), but I'd like to see what's so great about Grey that he's willing to give up this cute guy who loves him and only wants to make him happy for someone with a wife and an evil mother and a whole bunch of other baggage.
ATWT has been great in terms of Luke/Noah. Their scenes have been dynamite, especially the final one on Wednesday where Noah swears he can control 'it'. It was heartbreaking and I really felt for him. I felt for Luke too who is caught in a no win situation. No one does a look of anguish like Van Hansis. This mess is like a train wreck that you know isn't going to end well. Sure, Luke and Noah will ultimately wind up together, which is the goal, but it's not going to be a pretty road getting there. Just like any other soap romance. And that's the best thing about it.
Anthony
About Hollyoaks and ATWT
Isn't that whole relationship triangle thing between Sarah, John Paul, and Craig coming to a explosive end soon? From what I understand neither of the guys playing John Paul or Craig resigned a contract and so their storyline ends in September. It's actually pretty good, from what little I watch on YouTube. The beginning part of the whole thing where Craig was really jealous of Spike being with John Paul was the part I liked best. Since then, it's been nothing but sneaking behind Sarah's back, over and over again. It's almost gotten too old, which is why it's a good thing that it ends pretty soon. Other than that storyline, I find it incredibly hard to follow, mainly because of the thick British accents and slang which I can barely understand sometimes. Also, I have the attention span of a three year old which means that I lose track of who hates who and who is sleeping with who and who tried and failed to kill who and I don't really want to learn all that stuff anyway.
As for the whole Luke and Noah storyline, I know it's been said before, but it's basically the only watchable part of As The World Turns. I keep asking myself when I watch it if the actors laugh when they're told what they are doing. When they had the quicksand event, which was so unbelieveable that I can't actually believe they put it on air, I laughed the entire time.
emmerdale is rubbish
I agree with Jason and Anthony, and think both of you made such well worth reading comments. There is zero chemistry between Paul and Greyson, absolutely none, in fact it is simply laughable. What comes into this is the fact that the actors who play Greyson and Perdy do have amazing chemistry, really highly charged sexual chemistry too. Emmerdale are really desepeate for ratings, but if it isn't believe, why go head??
ATWT and HollyOaks
As a brit myself, we really are way ahead in terms of gay storylines in SOAPS...still, it's great to see the Luke and Noah story kick off. And even though I don't watch ATWT, the actings just too bad, it was lovely to see the kiss air. I hope the best for this storyline to flourish.
I am a huge HollyOaks fans and have been addicted to the JP/Craig storyline on YouTube. The story has been on going for almost a year now and will reach it's conclusion in a few weeks. I think what helped keep so many of use revited was the acting, which has been superb from both James Sutton(John Paul) and Guy Burnett(Craig). And the chemistry between these two actors has been truly amazing throughout the stretch. Some fan happen to luck out and catch some of their last scenes together, which just happened to be Guy Burnett's last shoot before he left, and said both actors were so overcome with emotion they could hardly speak to some of the media who were trying to get interviews. Understandable since their storyline has been very intense. Apparently their last scenes together are suppose to be quite incredible.
I also read from an interview that now James Sutton plans to leave next April when he's contract is up. As written in the newspaper rag 'The Sun' he would love to come to hollywood with hopes of makint it into movies. Well, James can certainly act. He has been phenominal as John Paul. Way too good of an actor by HollyOaks standards. If anyone stands a chance to 'break out' I think he does.
difference between emmerdale and hollyoaks