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Back away from the gaydar, Tyra !

At the end of yesterday's episode of The Tyra Banks Show, "The Science of Gaydar", Tyra noted that the topic was one that she and the show's producers had wavered on covering for some time before they finally decided to cover it. Tyra and her crew should have wavered a while longer as yesterday's show was a mess.

Tyra's guest was Dr. Richard Lippa, a psychology professor from the California State University at Fullerton, who recently drew media attention for noting physical traits that can indicate sexual orientation. Tyra put Lippa's claims to the test by using six volunteers who who alowed themselves to be compared to the traits that Lippa highlighted.

As the show progressed, watching the volunteers got increasingly painful as they seemed to get more and more self-conscious about what was going on. Frankly, I wondered if they fully understood what they had gotten themselves into. After all, it's one thing to be an openly gay person on national television, but were they prepared to have the way they spoke and walked be scrutinized to such an uncomfortable degree?

Adding to the awkwardness was Tyra's audience, who became more and more comfortable with yelling "Straight!" and "Gay!" in reaction to every revelation. Even worse, as the show progressed, they seemed more and more comfortable with assigning certain stereotypes to gay men.

Lippa seemed to get increasingly uncomfortable as well as Tyra repeatedly and bizarrely tried to turn individual traits into a sole, reliable indicator of sexual orientation. (As if every Opera-loving, well-dressed man must be gay.) And each time Lippa would remind her the way his study worked. "Nothing's 100%," he said several times during the hour, stating that his study noted overall tendencies and not steadfast rules. No one trait could be used in isolation, he'd warn again and again. Nonetheless, two minutes later Trya would'd make another generality.

As the episode progressed, Tyra and the audience seemed to become more comfortable using stereotypes. That was most clearly seen in the segment where the volunteers were sent to a restaurant for lunch. "As they order we can see their hand gestures," Tyra narrated. "Are they making broad sweeping motions or firm, specific moves? As their drinks arrive we can see who ordered what. Are they drinking beer or a white whine spritzer?" (At this point a waitress gives one of the volunteers a Shirley Temple.) "Do they grip them tightly and chug away or raise them delicately and take a dainty sip?"

Gee, Tyra, I wonder which traits were we supposed to associate with being gay or straight?

Another cringe-inducing moment came when one volunteer (who had by then identified himself as gay) expressed concern that studies on sexual orientation might lead expectant mothers to learn their unborn child's sexual orientation and decide to terminate the pregnancy based on that information. "I never thought of that!" Tyra reacted. Quick -- someone get her a copy of The Twilight of the Golds.

Obviously, Lippa's study isn't a subject of study that should be forbidden. However, it's a challenging topic that should be tackled sensitively. Unfortunately, Tyra didn't seem up to the challenge.

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  • JBE's picture

    Oh brother the

    silliness of TV may have reached a new low.  Whatever inspired this "psychologist" (I assume he is accredited) and these volunteers to go on the boob tube anyways?  To think that you can tell whether someone is gay or straight from certain mannerisms is just plain foolish.  Sure there are some gay people that fit the stereotype, just like their are some hetero males that fit every stereotype of the "he-man".  The majority of us though are a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

    If I had gone on this show I am pretty sure they would have thought I was straight (unless I admitted to liking ABBA music and dancing!).  I like sports, I drink beer, I am fascinated by cars, planes, trains, ships, etc..  I have no fashion sense, I hate shopping and halloween, and I could not care less about skin products or cologne!

    Cheers

    JBE

    Lyle Masaki's picture

    Actually, I think Dr Lippa

    Actually, I think Dr Lippa sees his study as finding gay men coming in a variety of forms. "There is some truth in stereotype" he'd say, but you can find straight men who are more like gays in the traits he identified. That's why he kept trying to discourage Tyra from looking at any one trait as a sign of sexual orientation. Each trait occurs more often in gay men, but they aren't exclusive to gay men except in combination. However, the way the show separated each trait took them out of the larger picture and the attempts to simplify the topic made sure fewer people would understand.

    I can see why someone might do a study like this. I expect Lippa might have been seeking to understand what's going on with gaydar -- what signals are people who have good gaydar picking up beyond their intuition?
    JBE's picture

    It may have been

    more interesting if the audience was made up of strictly gay men.  We always pride ourselves on our "gaydar".  I often hear gay men (including my partner) say "he is gay because" without knowing it is true.  I personally try and take a wait and see attitude (also I don't really care if they are gay or not).  My best friend growing up had a father that was, well let us say he wasn't very butch!  In University in 1980 I went to the men's washroom, at the urinal two down from me was this straight-looking and good-looking guy who much to my amazement propositioned me!  I was so shocked I said no (I was not accepting yet of my sexual orientation). 

    Cheers

    JBE

    James's picture

    I agree, yet disagree

    Yes, it was silly. Yes, Dr. Lippa has little to no credibility and he was a bit of a quack. Yes, some stereotypes were reinforced. Yes, the volunteers were paraded about like minstrels in gay face. But the show brought a controversial topic to American viewers and possibly made them think about something that they would not normally consider. The viewpoint that homosexuality is a choice is still held by many persons, in particular those who are religious and less educated. While this show did not present the idea of nature vs. nurture in a scholarly manner, it did get people thinking about it. Like they say, even bad press is good press.
    Lyle Masaki's picture

    I don't have a major problem

    I don't have a major problem with Dr. Lippa's study. The problem I had with this show was an attitude that seemed to think the study validated gay male stereotypes. The Colbert Report discussed the same study (IIRC, Dr Lippa was a guest that night) and parodied that attitude effectively. You're right about the underlying message being one that emphasizes that sexual orientation isn't a choice, but I think that was undercut with the audience seeking signs of swishiness in the volunteers and Tyra's tendency to look for sweeping generalizations in Lippa's study.
    GayTVluver's picture

    So...1-6, who is gay and who is straight? Crap

    Just looking at the pic it's annoying. Typical TV selection for this silly guessing game...Small guy...sitting with legs way spread...construction boots...big guy. Jesus what bullshit.
    Evan's picture

    Come Out and Live Your Life

    I use my experience and knowledge sometimes to determine if someone is gay.  When I first came out I refused to determine if others were gay.  I thought it was inappropriate.  Within the last year I have changed my mind.  Some gay people refuse to come out.  At a certain age you have to break away and be your own person.  I encourage those that are in the closet to first accept themselves and then come out when you are prepared (obviously as soon as possible so you can live your life).

    As I stated in my Closeted Gay Men on TV post I believe that effeminate behavior in gay men is learned.  This is why many gay men are mistaken as straight and others as gay.

    I haven't looked at a clip of the show yet but if I had to choose who was gay then I would pick 1 and 5.  Three and four I don't know about.

    Glenn's picture

    Interesting that you

    Interesting that you couldn't decide between 3 & 4, because those are the guys LIppa had trouble with.  Anyway, from left to right: G G S G S S
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    Evan's picture

    Beyond the Cover

    Thanks for giving the results.  I wasn't able to find the results and really wanted to know if I was right just from looking at the photo.  You can't judge a book by it's cover.  I figured number one was gay because of his erect posture and alertness.  The exact opposite is why I thought number five is gay.  As Lippa noted, you can't judge just on one thing.  I did, looks, and I had mixed results.

    GayTVluver's picture

    I guessed right except for the black and little guy

    I gave Tyra the benefit of the doubt and hoped that they were actually gonna accomplish something here. I guessed exclusively on what a typical bullshit talk show would present in the hopes of manipulating the audience into thinking they were being "accepting". 1 and 4 were picked as gay by me just based on their size...5 and 6 were ringers...(the construction boots were meant to throw us off). 2 and 3 being G/S respectively proves to me that Tyra just doesn't get it. She should have had a gay black man on the panel.

    I think the heat from the fat suit she wore has boiled her brain.