Brothers & Sisters: Scotty vs Jason

I love Scotty, and think he and Kevin make an adorable couple, thanks to the chemistry between Luke McFarlane and Matthew Rhys. It's great to see them back together, and kissing in primetime. What makes it doubly sweet is that the episode was executive-produced by Ken Olin, and David Marshall Grant is one of the writers on this series. For those of us who remember the ABC drama ''thirtysomething,'' which starred Ken Olin, there was a big controversy over showing two men in the same bed (in 1989); I don't the guys even kissed. Some advertisers pulled out. One of those 2 guys in bed was David Marshall Grant, who played Russell. That was nearly 20 years ago. Now two men can kiss on TV, and there's no controversy or advertiser boycott. Progress has been too slow, but you can't stem the tide of history.     

I was so happy to see Scotty and Kevin back together. Now I'm going to be pissed if Jason comes back and shreds the whole thing, which you intimate he will. Eric Winter is yummy, but I wish his own show had been more successful since I'm a Scotty fan. :-(

As I wrote in a post in the B&S forum, I've liked how BOTH Scotty & Kevin have grown as characters, & how they seem to actually complement each other now.  Therefore, I want to see them stay together, with all the joy & drama that goes along with a LTR.

IMHO, Jason is a BORING character.  And there's too much McAllister Mania in the Walker clan as far as I'm concerned.

Plus, Scotty is waaaay hotter than Jason in my book.

 

so a show is airing next sunday? i didn't see a preview. anyone else see a preview?

 

 

 

I prefer Scotty over Jason. I get the sense that Eric Winter is uncomfortable in a gay acting role. I didn't feel there was any chemistry between Eric Winter and Rhys. Also, Eric Winter would seem to be likely to leave the show as soon as humanly possible; what the fuck was he thinking with Viva Laughlin?

Yes, Eric Winter is hot. However, Luke McFarlane is vastly more adorable in his role as Scotty.

I think it would be a MORONIC move on the part of the show's producers to have Jason screw everything up again. It would make Kevin's storyline far too haphazard and uninteresting. Unless the intention of the producers is to keep Kevin from having a steady boyfriend, although I don't see what they would gain from this.

Also, I find Rob Lowe's character ABSOLUTELY INSUFFERABLE. If the producers want to mess up a relationship, then it should be Kitty's and Senator McAllister's

Why did they have Kevin's elbow in the way of most of the kiss? His kiss with Jason earlier this season was also obscured (their goodbye kiss). Has someone at ABC complained?

As someone who has loved Scotty and Kevin since the first season, I was very nervous about him coming back so quickly after Jason left the show.  I was a bit tired of the writers pushing Kevin so quickly from one relationship to the next.  I thought that if Kevin cheated on Jason too quickly it would mean the end of any relationship with Scotty (maybe for good).  However, watching how the relationship progressed on-screen, I was impressed with how the characters seemed to know they were walking on-thin-ice (and rightly so) with this new "friendship."  I think it shows growth with Scotty (who when brought back tried to kiss Kevin immediately) that he realized their sex was a mistake and had already started packing up to leave.  I am completely unsure how I feel about Kevin and Scotty jumping back into a relationship so quickly after Kevin broke up with Jason.  This may be a sign that Kevin isn't quite ready for a relationship with Scotty yet.  I am also worried since all signs point to Jason coming back and since Scotty's return was always said to be short-term.  I am definitely a Kevin/Scotty fan and want to see them end up together eventually.  However, if it has to be one of those things where it takes multiple attempts, I'm ok with that too.

I saw in the previews that two police officers were talking to Kevin.  I'm worried something tragic happens to our dear Scotty....but I have read no spoilers regarding this so I have no idea (only speculating).

I always loved Scotty and Kevin. I hated when the show broke them up, because it felt false and wrong. They still had so much story to tell, with their chemistry and personality dynamics. They had real chemistry, not just 2 hot actors standing and blandly reading lines, as with some of Kevin's other relationships. Now they're back together, and while this is an eyes-wide-open reunion (they aren't kidding themselves about their flaws or Kevin's feelings for Jason), I still worry the show may split them up again to leave Kevin on his own or to put Kevin with Jason again. Are they ever going to put Kevin into a successful relationship?

I never cared much for Jason, and I thought Kevin was exceedingly patient with him. That scene where he found out Jason called Robert twice broke my heart, because Kevin was so hurt. I know that some people are going to look at this and see it as slutty, selfish Kevin being so bad to saintly Jason, but I see this as Kevin being torn and choosing the man he has loved for some time yet has such heavy baggage with.

I really want Kevin and Scotty to stay together. If they did this just for conflict and to break them up when Jason returns, or they did this so Kevin will lose them both and be all alone again, I will be PISSED. I'm not sure I could watch anymore if that happened. Kevin is this show for me.

Matthew Rhys was so superb in this episode. When he got the phone call, I just...ugh. So sad.

Without knowing exactly what was said during Kevin and Jason's conversation it's hard to say what happened. I don't think Kevin was wrong necessarily for breaking it off with Jason, especially with the relevation that Jason was calling his brother. That said, we never saw a lot of Kevin and Jason together, so no one really knows what sort of relationship they had.

I so so love this episode.

Hoorah for Kevin and Scotty getting back together.

As I wrote in the B&S forum, I've always had the feeling that Scotty will evenutally end up with Kevin. And I love it that it happened already.

I've always been a fan of the Scotty and Kevin romance, and I've always liked how they look so good together and they're just so adorable.

 

 

Regarding: "What does everyone think of this latest plot development? Is Kevin an impatient, idiot for trashing yet another relationship? Or is he justified in dumping Jason because he's realized he still has feelings for Scotty?"

9 Weeks In and Kevin Finally Gets a Kiss

It took too long and now we have a writers’ strike ~ justifiably ~ but still, we waited too long to see Kevin get a kiss and now we may never see the rest of the season of Brothers and Sisters. Or do I have that wrong?

This episode was written by two females, Jennifer Cecil and Sherri Cooper-Landsman. And the writing between Scotty and Kevin was either good, the actors just were great at presenting it or both. I liked this episode. It felt more real or less predictable than the episodes prior to “36 Hours” this season. “Something New” had some pleasant little surprise lines that gave me a laugh, smile or surge of excitement. Nothing offensive, other than the sleeze-Lena being the assigned character-of-the-moment to dislike.

To be clear ~ the part that I am drawn to the most ~ Kevin and his love life. Thank goodness, he has “a someone” in his life that we can enjoy again. This show suffers when he doesn’t.

Jason finally calls Kevin from Malaysia. A very excited Kevin to Jason: Jason, Oh my God. Oh, I’ve missed you. Yeah, yeah, I need to talk to you, too.

Then we find that Kevin has broken up with Jason on the very phone call that he was so thrilled to get from Jason. Hmmm….love to know what happened on that phone call. …and how Kevin turned from being loyal and in love with Jason to. . .

Kevin to Scotty: I finally spoke to Jason. I broke up with him (this is a puzzle, it seemed like Jason must have been the one to break up with Kevin . . . hmmm . . .) Scotty, when I first met you, what we had was messy. We were hot and cold, back and forth, all over the place. But I want to be back there with you because I want to be honest about who I am.

Scotty: Did you tell Jason we slept together.
Kevin: Yes, I did.

. . . Okay, I want to know what was said on that phone call and I want to see the body language like we did, when Scotty refused to take Kevin back on that fantastic phone-call-acting in season one.

Too much good stuff left out, the summer with Jason and Kevin co-habiting and now this phone call of Jason and Kevin.

How can Kevin be so cool about that phone call with Jason? Jason has left Kevin hanging . . .no phone calls, no skyping, no emails... That comment about bad cell phone reception nowadays is a no-sell. My IMAC allows me to do video exchanges. Kevin is a lawyer, surely he could afford it. And when Jason went off to Malaysia ~ he LOVED Kevin. He expressed that Kevin couldn't say he loved him.... What happened at the airport when Kevin sent him off? As far as I am concerned that rest of this show is okay, but it is Kevin that pulls me in. I am a heterosexual female. And if I feel this way, surely more time and delving into Kevin's personal life would be a strength of BROTHERS AND SISTERS. (A spin-off, a complementary, complimentary, show centered around Kevin would be fantastic!)

I always liked the special scenes between Kevin and Scotty. They were well-written and well-acted. But I like Eric as Jason too. I agree we never got to have a chance to see the budding relationship between Kevin and Jason. But whatever is done in the story, it needs more than 90 second scenes to get me more into the character of Kevin and his beau friend.

I want substance, depth, subtle and unpredictable humor. And 9 weeks waiting for just a kiss that flys on the screen makes me feel patronized a bit.

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I have seen a lot of successful couples struggle through realtionshps and think Kevin is the closest to the real thing that I have seen on TV.  How dull woud it be if Scotty and Kevin and Jason didn'y bring their dynamic to the storyline.  They would become little more than extras with nothing to do more than be all lovey-dovey.  I say bring it on.

I was very excited last night when Kevin and Scotty kissed. I did not like Kevin and Jason, mostly because I didn't see Kevin with a minister and I didn't feel the chemistry between the two. I love Kevin and Scotty together. I wish they would become more like Keith and David on Six Feet Under (without illegal activities), a mostly committed couple with occasional problems who are obviously meant for each other, rather than this on for 2 episodes off for a year stuff. I worry that that is what this is about to be again with Jason returning. I wish they would let Scotty and Kevin have a longer-lasting relationship than Kevin's previous ones. I also think Kevin was more than patient with Jason and should not have promised to wait a year for him. I love Scotty, he's so sweet and adorable and cares a great deal for Kevin.

I love Kevin and Scotty together.  I always have and always will.  Do I like the way this has come about? Not particularly.  I hope you're going to give us another asterisk spoiler about where things head next.  The way I see it, Scotty hasn't replied to Kevin's final romantic gesture yet.

To make this easy, I am just going to answer the questions posed: 

1. Is Kevin an ass for so quickly cheating on Jason?

Not so much.  Jason found a signal to contact his brother twice.  Kevin literally begged Jason to call him twice a day for weeks.  It was only after Kevin learned via Robert that Jason was, indeed, able to call home that his frustration level leapt to the point of having sad, lonely, drunken sex with his ex.  Scotty was appropriately apprehensive, until he was drunk too.  Scotty's summary of the night's events was pretty accurate.

2. Or is Jason's lack of communication a sign he is more in love with God than Kevin as Kevin seems to fear?

It is an occupational hazard.  I think there is more to it than that, but I am sure his dedication to his work is a major factor.  Somehow I don't see Kevin as a born again Christian.

3. We do know Jason is going to be back soon, presumably either to fight for his man or thump him with the good book.

Not sure about this yet.  We weren't privy to the conversation they had.  Apparently, Jason said he needed to talk to Kevin about something because Kevin said "I need to talk to you too".   For all I know, they could have been on the same wavelength.  Long-distance relationships are a bitch.  Even with close proximity, no relationship is easy if it's worth having. 

4. What does everyone think of this latest plot development?

I am not sure what I think about how this came about.  I love the idea of Kevin and Scotty giving a serious go at a relationship.  On the rebound? Again, not so much.

5. Is Kevin an impatient, idiot for trashing yet another relationship?

I think he was as patient as he is capable of being.  Those LD relationships are awfully high maintenance.  When one person doesn't hold up their end, they fall apart pretty fast.  Since we got to see so little of their relationship, it's hard to judge what it really was to begin with.  Summer Lovin? Maybe.  Jason asked Kevin to define their relationship.  He said he loved Jason and wanted to wait for him.  I don't think he had any idea how difficult that would be if Jason didn't keep in contact.  Did he overestimate himself? Probably.

6. Or is he justified in dumping Jason because he's realized he still has feelings for Scotty?  

Justified.  That's a tough one.  I think it takes two people to make or break a relationship.  There's enough fault to go around in this one too.

Kevin's feelings for Scotty.  This is the part that frightens me.  Is Kevin in love with the idea of being in love? 

I think Scotty and Kevin do love each other, and I think Scotty has always been in love with Kevin.  Deep down inside, I think Kevin's whole heart belongs to Scotty.  I am not sure Kevin realizes it yet. 

I certainly can see where Scotty would be very apprehensive about putting himself out there again with Kevin until he's more certain of how Kevin really feels sans the baggage of his other relationships.  I hope this does not take another ugly turn. 

As for the actors, Matthew and Luke have something magical going on when they play opposite each other.  It sure doesn't hurt that they both have stage experience. Matthew's face glows in all his scenes with Luke to the point it is hard to hide it when he's not supposed to be glowing.  Luke is the only actor Matthew always brings his hand to his face or head when they kiss - which adds tenderness or passion, depending on the kiss.  These are two top drawer actors that are incredibly convincing.

I am cautiously optimistic that Robbie is going to stay true to his word about Scotty and Kevin.  He said he would take great care of these characters.  I hope that this time he can find a way to make it work for them.

Thank you, Michael, for providing a great forum to discuss compelling drama and characters.

I must agree with everything Lee said. Above all about the telephone conversation and the chemistry between Luke and Matthew.

I do hope that in a future episode that call will be refered to, because I think it is quiet possible that their breaking up was a mutual decision. I think that ONE phonecall from Jason would have stopped Kevin from ending up in Scotty's arms. I believe that both Kevin and Scotty fought a good battle to stay friends, rather than become lovers. And I am not entirely sure that Kevin and Scotty are throwing themselves into a relationship too fast. They have loved eachother and hurt eachother in the past and the way Kevin describes their relationship now is obviously a sign that they are both careful about it, this time around. They are growing up. :-)

But it will interesting to see what will happen once Jason and Kevin (and Scotty?) meet again face to face.

As to Matthew and Luke. Yes, I find their acting the most believable of the 3 couples. As a fan of Matthew's from before B&S I must say he seems indeed comfortable in every scene with Luke, no matter how difficult it is. And I think it is the body language, more than the words that create that feeling.

I just hope the writers on B & S let their relationship develop.  I believe it's the only hope for Kevin's character to develop.  I can't imagine he and Scotty breaking up again.  If that happens where could the writers go with Kevin's character....another boyfriend?  Why? 

I have heard it say that Scotty is Kevin's MR. BIG (ala Sex in the City).  That could be true and if so would be a good thing.   It would keep the tension alive between Kevin and Scotty and keep us fans interested in the storyline.    Jason can come back and give his blessing to Kevin and Scotty....I believe that would Kevin move forward. 

I can't wait to see where this all leads....My hopeless romantic heart is yearning for a good result.