Confusion Over Whether Chris Colfer is Gay or Not
Last October, The Advocate posted an interview with Chris Colfer in which they said Colfer was gay and out. This was the email they sent to me and presumably other media outlets: This is Chris Colfer's first interview with the gay press. He's gay, talks about how he couldn't come out in high school because people in his town get killed for that. Really smart, fun interview. It wasn't actually Chris' first interview with the gay press (we had already briefly chatted with him) but the interview included the following exchange:
Personally, my next question would've been to clarify that Colfer was indeed saying he was gay, but Goldberg and The Advocate seemed certain enough of what Chris was saying that they not only ran the interview that way, but pitched it as Chris talking about being gay. Maybe. Maybe not. Today USA Today has an interview up with the following passage:
This prompted a number of blogs to wonder if Colfer was now back in the closet and even The Advocate posted a follow-up. They also cite an interview Colfer gave to Access Hollywood a while ago where he seems to be comparing his own coming out to that of Kurt's on Glee. So is Colfer in or out? Gay or straight? I don't know and I don't intend to ask. As I recently explained in my column on outing, I don't ask actors under age twenty one about their sexuality because putting that much pressure on someone so young — someone who might very well not have yet dealt with their sexuality — is out-of-bounds for me. That's why I didn't ask Chris when I chatted with him at the TCA, and the only reason I'm writing about it here is because we previously reported he was out due to The Advocate's interview. If Chris is in fact gay, I'm sure he'll let us know when he's ready. And if I talk to him after he turns twenty-one, I'll see if he's willing to talk about it then. Until that time, I hope those folks who have posted some very unpleasant comments on other sites, will zip it and cut the kid some slack. Submitted by on Wed, 2009-11-11 18:03. |
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ok, you know what? this is freaking crazy
i have a solution. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T COME OUT AT ALL!
i am serious. it is amaaazing to me the controversy that springs up when someone comes out. all sorts of people get in a freaking tizzy.
"nobody comes out the right way. nobody comes out soon enough. people are going back in the closet. blah blah freaking blah!"
i'll keep saying it, but it's tricky. that is VERY obvious.
there seems to be no satisfaction at all. it's insane. we want role models? that's bull. all our role models seem to disappoint at every turn.
just stop coming out. please. all the controversy is going to kill someone eventually from the stress. sheesh
I haven't
um, yeeeah...
the whole matt bomer controversy. adam lambert. even NPH.
I'm not blaming this on afterelton. god no. but ALL OVER. every blog i go to.
someone, somewhere always seems to have a problem with how people come out, why they didnt come out sooner, they were closeted, but never to their friends and family, i mean....the list is endless. nobody can come out and just have it at that. i dont know if thats the gay community's fault or our whole culture's fault.
afterelton users do a good job on debating maturely, but my point is....coming out or not coming out or whatever still causes a lot of controvery...a lot of debates...a lot of anger, a lot of joy...and then this chris colfer incident. some are mad at him now, some are defending him, yadda yadda. either way, once again, people are split down the middle over this. it's insane.
Well, the thing is...
I think it's always been split down the middle.
I think it's always been split down the middle. lots of criticism...lots of praise.
But thats just how i see it. even in this thread, you can obviously see the passionate debates about him coming out, when to come out, should you question him at 19 or not.
the whole issue just confuses me. i dont even know whats right or wrong about it all.
I do want people to come out, but i also feel for them because it's obviously not easy coming out under the public eye. very difficult.
Going back into the closet is what gets notice
He made comments which suggested he was openly gay. Then, suddenly, he isn't.
There's no way that will get a "kumbaya" reaction. And yes he's 19 but he did choose to say this stuff in the first place.
For me, it's more a symbol of the power that fear of homosexuality has in Hollywood. I don't really care if Colfer comes out or stays in, or if he's straight or gay or bisexual. He can be what he likes, more power to him. I'm just more put off by the continued message from Hollywood that you have to be in or your career is done.
What Closet?
Has Chris Colfer actually said he isn't gay?
I haven't seen that anywhere.
So far all I've seen is a lot of media outlets claiming he's closeted without ANY evidence that he is?
Do we really need The Advocate to filter information for us or interpret something we can read with our own eyes and hear with our own ears.
Where in the USA Today statement does it say Chris Colfer isn't gay or denies being gay?
I think that
But that's YOUR problem
But that's YOUR problem of perception, not his.
He answers The Advocate's question:
TA: Were you out in high school?
CC: Oh, no. People are killed in my hometown for that.
He answers Access Hollywood's questions:
AH: Did you have the same experience yourself?
CC: No, I did not. Similar but not exact.
AH: Parents as accepting or...?
CC: Oh, yes, very. Very much so, yes, but I wasn't, like, in Beyonce clothes.
According to USA Today, he chose not to address his sexuality, but the writer never states what was the actual question she asked Chris that produced this response:
CC: I try to keep up a mystery. As much as I give away of my personal life, the less people will believe me as other characters. I try to be private about it. It is what it is.
So he casually confirms he's out in 2 interviews and says he's trying to keep details of his personal life private in the third interview. Nowhere is there any statement from him denying he is gay.
well
Adding insult to injury --
"'I try to keep up a mystery."
What "Mystery"?
THERE IS NOTHING MYSTERIOUS ABOUT BEING GAY!!!!!
What?! There is mystery to being gay!!
The mystery to being gay: Are you a top, a bottom, or both?! Don't tell me you don't still wonder about it when you look at Ollian or NUKE :)~
(Obviously I'm joking by the way, to any crazy person who thinks I'm being serious)....And if it matters, I'm neutral on the whole issue.
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I logged in specifically so
I logged in specifically so I could give this comment five stars. Gay geeks rock!
Oh, and as for Chris... I'm in the "he's 19, leave him alone" camp. Especially since it doesn't sound so much like he came out and went back in, as he's just trying to be all "gay vague" and maybe not doing it so well. He might be unsure and confused, he might be getting pressure from his agent. Neither of those scenarios constitute good reasons to get miffed at him. (This is coming from a guy barely a few years older than he is, who would be terrified at the prospect of coming out to the whole world at once.)
Speaking as a 19 year old...
...though I'm not gay, I understand what it means to be 19, and how confusing that is. And though I'm not gay, I'm not sure I'm straight either. My best kiss and possibly most meaningful crush is on a woman. Would I be ashamed if I was a lesbian/bisexual? No way. Would my family care? Not one bit. But the thing is, my sexuality isn't clear cut, it's confusing, and THAT's what makes it hard to say. So maybe Cris is just confused/still figuring things out.
Or maybe he is gay. Awesome. Does that mean he has to be out? No. Who he tells and when he says it is his business. Maybe he sees a difference in telling a gay magazine like the Advocate and one with a more straight audience like USA Today. Or maybe he's changed his mind on being out. Who knows, but can we cut the kid some slack! I'm not naive enough to think that as a teen I understand everything, or have the greatest self-awareness (I think I'm better than most, but hey, I'm still only 19). I can't imagine being a teen with the amount of pressure on me that Cris has. So kudos to AE for not adding to that pressure by hounding Cris about his sexuality.
I think it's shameful that gay men on this site would tell anyone to come out. You may be out and proud, but remember that when you criticize people; you've had years to accept your sexuality, so from your perspective it might look easy to come out. Or heck, maybe it was easy for you, but everyone is different. Forcing someone out of the closet does NOTHING for the gay movement. Absolutely nothing.
For me, I'll take what a celebrity says about their sexuality (meaning interview) as truth until they declare otherwise. If they don't say anything, well, I won't make assumptions.
So I think all you "adults" should remember what it's like being 19 and leave us to figure out our own lives.
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Well said!
Thanks!
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This is all very bizarre and
This is all very bizarre and very sad. I'm still hoping it'll turn out to be some big misunderstanding - maybe that the USAT interview was from before he came out, for example.
But as of right now, all mention of Chris being gay has been eliminated from his Wikipedia entry and the links to the Advocate and Access Hollywood interviews are gone.
those links are not gone
I've just re-posted them a few entries above yours. Here they are again:
The Advocate
Access Hollywood
USA Today
And you do realize anyone can edit Wikipedia entries?
The whole crux of this big debate hinges on the following excerpt from the USA Today article by Donna Freydkin:
Perhaps someone should ask Freydkin what was the exact question she posed to Chris Colfer about his sexuality. There's a bit of a disconnect between the two paragraphs above.
I understand for legal reasons
you feel compelled to say you "don't know" if he's gay or not, but geez. It's a little hard to read that without my eyes rolling out of my sockets. The Advocate had a direct quote of him acknowledging he's gay, and the Access Hollywood clip showed him on video unambiguously acknowledging he's gay and saying his parents were accepting of him and added that he wasn't dancing around like Beyonce at the time. He's gay. He is totally and completely gay. As far as USA TODAY, maybe he didn't want to discuss it right then. He was plugging the show and was tired of the constant and inevitable questions about his own private life, instead of his work. But, like someone above stated, you can't unring the bell. He's gay.
As far as not wanting to pressure him with the question, at first I wanted to roll my eyes at that, too. But then I thought, "what if I went to a high school where people wrote "fag" on a piece of paper, and stuck it to my back, and not even the teacher told me it was there? What if I geniunely thought I would be physically harmed or even killed if I came out"? I agree with Michael. Let him be. He'll be out and proud soon enough, as he gets more famous and more confident. He's not the type that can really hide it, anyway.
It can always be hidden
As long as he doesn't go around making out with guys in public. Look at Nathan Lane. They even tried to sell him in a sitcom where he played a big ladies man, even though he was ridiculous in the part. Only after that was done and his movie career was on the wane did he come out.
I respect his decision to stay closeted, if he is gay and now does not want to talk about it, but I don't know if this is something that is going to change over time. Hollywood does not change.
It already has
Actually, Liberace was outed in the UK in 1956
I wrote about the Liberace case in my book
The journalist didn't literally say he was gay. He implied it through innuendo. British libel law is quite different from U.S. libel law. Even the mildest insult can win you damages over there. Here you have to prove intent to harm AND prove you were actually damaged. That's a very high bar.
Tom Cruise also won a case in the UK to "prove" he isn't gay. It had to do with an idiotic tab storyr that some sort of sex therapist was brough in on Eyes Wide Shut to help him learn how to make love to Nicole. Pretty silly.
As for my dealings with Cruise
http://www.ehrensteinland.com/htmls/library/tomcruiseletters.shtml
Clearly the Lady Doth Protest Too Much
They existed in the 60s
People just didn't want to hear about homosexuality.
Now, a lot of people have no problem with it, but Hollywood still assumes they do. So we get people who are told to stay in the closet, and over time I do think that has a negative affect on how the public views gays. It goes hand in hand with what we hear over and over about states rejecting gay rights, as it usually ends up tied together. It just reinforces for a lot of people, gay and straight, that there's something wrong with being gay.
Again, if Colfer is not gay, or wants to say he is not, that's up to him. I just think the overall tone of Hollywood is one that tells us homosexuality is not something to talk about.
I don't respect "the decision to stay closeted"
Look
David, the poor kid has given every indication that he's gay and he's not once said he's straight. Can you get over yourself in saying that he's somehow trying to be closetted. You're saying you're a journalist and you're saying that you're experienced in Hollywood - but despite all your books, you're showing precious little expertise in this.
Will you please get off your high horse. The kid is 19 years old and he's given relatively unambiguous answers about his sexuality. He's also told another journalist to piss off because he doesn't want to discuss his sex life when he's discussing his job,
Tell me man, how many 19-year-olds have you ever met in your professonal life who've come out at such a young age in the public eye? And once they do, do they have to come out at every single opportunity?
Frankly David, you're part of the problem here - not the solution. The kid's already come out, but he's not out enough for your tastes.
This is your problem (and the problem of several other posters here) not Colfer's. You've spent all these years saying actors should be open about their sexuality and when one of them is, you're all over him because he's not being open according to your rules. Frankly you - and several other posters here - are rank hypocrites.
You've spent so much of your career saying that people shouldn't be ashamed of being gay. And then when a young man says he is gay, you're criticising him for not being the right kind of gay.
Are you the right kind of gay, David? Is anyone on this site? Is there an exam we have to pass? Do we need a ranking system in which we all carry ID cards that show exactly how gay we are?
Frankly, this discussion about Colfer has devolved into the worst kind of drunken bitch fight you'd find in a low-rent gay bar near to closing time. The kid has answered questions truthfully according to his own lights and you're pissing all over him because he's not saying things the way you want him to say them.
Seriously, I don't care what age you or anyone else came out. If you came out as a three-year-old, that doesn't make you any better as a human being or as a gay man than someone who comes out at 70.
You are not the arbiter on what is right or wrong when it comes to being gay. If you want to be the gay messiah, then form a cult. L Ron Ehrenstein even has a kind of cute ring to it. But don't beat up a 19-year-old on this site and think it's going to make you converts. Really, what you're doing is not cool.
Can I give you 10 stars?
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"Beat up a 19 year-old"?
You act like he's 15 years old!
In fact from the tone of any number of posts in here a lot of A.E. readers have totally confused an actor named Chris Colfer withe the charactwer he palys named Kurt Hummell.
This character was created by Ryan Murphy -- not the actor who plays him. Are you aware of that people?
CHRIS COLFER IS AN ADULT!
Kidulthood
I've never seen Glee, so I'm not mistaking Colfer for his character.
As for being 19, what does that mean? It means that you can meet a GI on the way back from the polling booth, give him a cigarette and bed him. But you can't buy him a drink to get him in the mood.
Some 19-year-olds are wise beyond their years while others are drippingly wet behind the ears. Colfer has reached the age of majority. That doesn't mean he's an adult in every other aspect of his life.
You're in your sixties, David. You're in your anecdotage. Stirring up a mob to string up some kid for a perceived insult is beneath you.
Colfer effectively said he was gay in one interview and in another interview said he didn't want to discuss it. That's not unringing a bell, that's not denying his sexuality - it's called learning to set parameters with the press.
He's doing what's right for him - not what's right for you. Douse your burning torch. Put aside your pitchfork. Eschew the long hard climb up the hill to the castle and think of your arthritis instead. Have a peach-fuzz daiquiri. Chill, man, chill.
"relatively unambiguous answers "
"let him be" WHAT?
You're right
David -- ENOUGH
David
Over the years, many of us have come to respect your challenges to hypocrisy and writing stories about actors like Tucker Smith who refused to closet themselves and play the Hollywood game.
And then you undo it with this bitter, spiteful CRAP.
How dare you call this kid a liar? First of all, he hasn't lied and said he's straight. And until you know exactly what he is, you can't claim otherwise. He may be BISEXUAL, ASEXUAL, QUESTIONING -- all labels people like you often deride -- and not want to defend himself. He may be gay. But "not saying" is not the equivalent of lying.
And there are many actors and viewers who DO believe, despite what practice Hollywood has popularized, that actors have a right to be themselves in public but should SAY as little about their private lives as possible, INCLUDING straight people. I can't even watch Manhattan and Husbands and Wives anymore without thinking about Woody Allen's "thing for little girls" (to paraphrase Diane Keaton's character). Ditto to anything Tom and Nicole starred in. It just felt creepy for me to watch it.
Your answer to this is a PISSY "It's show business." As if what -- because Hollywood has encouraged actors to exploit their private lives for publicity, now every actor has an obligation to do it? Because people get some fame and money they owe YOU and the gay community a declaration of their sexuality? Even when someone like Chris is just starting out and is not "lying" to protect massive showbiz wealth?
Are you that bitter about Hollywood that you can't see any reason why an actor might choose to keep his private life private for his craft?
Just because an actor has appeared on ONE television show does not mean he is therefore in "show business" and has forever lost his right to make choices as an actor, a person, and a young man as to who he is and how much of his life he wants to present to the public.
Nothing made me respect Dan Futterman more when he RESISTED answering questions about his sexuality when playing gay roles because he did not want to give the impression to gay audiences that he felt a need to out himself as straight, and because he wanted to maintain the fantasy that he was the character he played.
You need to grow up, David. And if you're that bitter about show business and Hollywood, get out.
Everything you represent with these posts is antithetical to freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and respect for the sexual choices of other people.
Absolutely spot on
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... were omitted in my post, for taking this stand.
I am always amazed that so many people conclude every actor is absolutely gay because of some rumored gay experience -- not only obliterating the range of sexuality human beings experience that I noted above, but also forgetting that when people go to Hollywood, become famous in the world of "showbiz" at a young age -- WHILE they may be figuring out their sexuality --- they may not be lying when they say they're not gay, or prefer to keep it quiet, lest they be condemned for homophobia when they say they're bisexual or open-minded or questioning.
The very reason many young gay men are able to have heterosexual sex when we're young is that we're often so hyped up with hormones at that age our bodies will let us have sex with just about anybody. Not all gay men are like this, but many men who accept a gay identity are. This is why some of us can honestly say we're bisexual on the way to becoming gay, as many of us have. And most of us have had the chance to figure out who we are in private, out of the spotlight. We had enough pressure to deal with public homophobia, not to mention prejudice in our own families. With our different experiences we all came to accept ourselves or know ourselves at very different times. We may think we would all be role models in the spotlight, but we might disappoint even ourselves.
I cannot imagine what it would have been like to figure out who I am as private gay person while trying to be a "public figure" -- to live up to the expectations of some very strident people in the gay community to confirm my sexuality and EXACTLY what label I wanted for myself, while I was experimenting bisexuality -- at age 19 -- and trying to explain that to the world, including people who demanded I declare myself to be gay because they were so sure I was just in denial and not doing what my hormones urged me to do AT THAT AGE.
After Elton is taking exactly the right stand, in my opinion, and Michael, Brent, and the rest of the team deserve the credit for starting this dialogue in a compassionate way.
Yay After Elton
Not "lying"?
Love the quotes you put around "lying." First he says he's gay. Then he takes it back. What do you call that exactly?
Why should such a creature merit the fealty you so willingly lavish upon him? If it's "PISSY" of me to object -- fine.
I don't disagree
Liar? Do you have any proof
Liar? Do you have any proof that he has ever denied being gay in an interview?
I surprised
That at 19 anyone would still not have worked out which way they swing.
I am not saying he should or should not come out untill he himself is ready but 19 is not young! It was not that long ago the life expectancy was not much more than that so god know how those people worked it out before they died cause I am pretty sure they did.
(I came out at 16 in the earlyish 90's in a small northern town in England, was it easy? yes, yes it was because I have a very large and protective loving family that would not let anyone get away with snide remark let alone picking on me. So I am more than aware that my situation is completely different to most other gay peoples in so far that I had a easy ride and I knew I would.)
Do your research
You're "surprised" that someone hasn't figured out what their sexuality is at 19 because YOU did it at 16? How much more blatant can you be in doing exactly what Brent and Michael warn against, assuming everyone is just like you?
This is the same kind of reasoning heterosexual people use when they say -- "I'm surprised anyone is attracted to someone with the same gender." They can't accept gay people because they're not gay, so of course everyone has to be like them. Everyone doesn't become a sexual person in the same way as everyone else, and certainly not on your timetable.
I came out when I was 12. Why did it take YOU so long?
One of my good friends is very asexual. He's a nerd, an academic, and a sweet person, but as far as we can tell he just has low hormones. He's not even very sexual with his current partner (he likes to cuddle and kiss but doesn't really like much sex). Maybe he has psychological issues. But the bottom line is he didn't identify as gay until he fell in love with a guy in his 30s.
And many people have other issues that keep them from admitting their sexuality to themselves.
Yes I am surprised
I never said that because I came out at 16 he should be all flag waving did I? No.
Way to misread my posting. There is not a single straight person I know that did not figure out they were straight way before they left school, Why should the same not apply to being gay/bi/whatever else that is merely what I was saying. He implied he was gay in the interview, That means he knows. Now he is backtracking plain and simple but that is his choice and I am not going to hate on him for it as we all come to terms with it in a different way, Which is why I posted my own experience if you bothered to read the post fully, I clearly say my experience is NOT like the majority.
No, YOU misread and still make the same mistake
Go back and read your post and your reply. You now claim you're surprised no one he has figured out his sexuality at 19 because "there is not a single straight person you klnow" who did not figure out his sexuality. AGAIN, assuming you're correct on this point -- and you're not -- you're assuming because MANY people figure out their sexuality at 19, you're SURPRISED that ANYONE is.
That idea is absurd. AGAIN, I say, there are many people, whether because of hormones, psychological issues, or their own experiences, do NOT know what they are exactly at 19. I know many people who are SO sexual at 19 they can have sex with men and women and genuinely convince themselves they're bisexual and are not just saying that. They LATER come to believe they're gay based on their relationships.
So how do you reconclile your SURPRISE based on people you know with people that I and other people know? You CAN'T. Because everyone's experiences are not the same.
And the ONLY reason you're surprised is that you continue to believe that every individual should be like "Most" people you know -- and you DID include your experience of coming out at 16 in your ideal situation should come out at 19 in other situations. READ YOUR POST.
And by the way -- your claim that EVERY straight person you know knew they were straight at 19? REALLY? You asked them this? You know who EACH and EVERY one of them is really attracted to? No, you don't. You know what they TOLD you or how they held themselves out to the public.
Studies show that many of those people have same-sex fantasies, and many of them may have been figuring out their sexuality and not told it to YOU.
Again I say, do some research.
Then you and I know
Different people.
Why should I do some research? I am not writing a thesis on sexuality I am merely giving my view point which is valid as anyone elses.
I state again 16 was good for me, I still state that I am the exception and not the rule no matter how you interperet what I wrote.
Also you seem to be a little touchy and ever excited on this, I would say clam down, they guy came out and is now retreating.
It's like the domino affect on crack!
I haven't seen, read or heard any evidence that Chris Colfer doesn't know what his sexual orientation is or doesn't know to whom he's attracted.
I don't think he should be judged by what strangers who don't know him and haven't spoken to him think that know about what he thinks about his own sexuality.
There is no indication that he's confused or closeted or any of the things people are accusing him of.
Everyone's responding to hearsay and rumors with no evidence.
He knows he's gay, he knows that folks know he's gay he's made it clear in two different areas of the media. If he wants to not have to discuss it with USA Today, surely that's his right.
It doesn't automatically mean he's negating his being gay or denying being gay or retracting his earlier statements.
It feels like a huge leap to me, to go from the quote from USA Today above to "Chris Colfer is closeted" and yet, everybody jumped in with both feet.
So Chris Colfer is now compelled to make some statement to confirm something he's never denied and in fact has already discussed in the media at least twice because The Advocate got a bee in its bonnet over a statement made to another publication that doesn't even clearly indicate what The Advocate is claiming it does?
The problem is...
you refuse to come to grips with the implications of your "surprise" is not just your personal feelings, but your assertion that the basis for your surrpsie is that "everyone you know" -- as if they represent everyone -- has settled on their sexuality at age 19. And your surprise is riddled with judgment, that if they claim they haven't settled on who or what they are, they may not be telling the truth.
As I intimated above, what's troubling about your reasoning is that it's the same rationale straight people have used to claim that they don't understand gay people -- they're "surprised" someone could be attracted to a member of the same sex, therefore they don't "believe"it.
Equally, again, I seriously doubt "everyone you know" has settled on their sexuality at age 19 -- and your continued assertion of this nonsense deserves a response.
Come to grips with what?
I get suprised by alot of things...I surprised people watch baseball and call it a sport.. I am surprised that people own poodles and call it a dog... I am surprised people now call marathons snickers even though its been like 20 years since it was changed.
Yet I do not judge them for it.
You read into my posts what ever you like, and try your internetz psychoanalysis on me if it makes you happy for you to judge me.
That everyone is not just like me is indeed TRAGIC
Seriously, if you don't want to get run over by a car, don't play in traffic.
If you "want to keep your private life private" don't give interviews the way Cofler does. That's why people hire public relations reps.
Confused at 19
Um, I'm 19 and still confused. As are many of my friends.
So bugger off! It's my sexuality and I'll be as confused as I want to be.
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