Confusion Over Whether Chris Colfer is Gay or Not
Last October, The Advocate posted an interview with Chris Colfer in which they said Colfer was gay and out. This was the email they sent to me and presumably other media outlets: This is Chris Colfer's first interview with the gay press. He's gay, talks about how he couldn't come out in high school because people in his town get killed for that. Really smart, fun interview. It wasn't actually Chris' first interview with the gay press (we had already briefly chatted with him) but the interview included the following exchange:
Personally, my next question would've been to clarify that Colfer was indeed saying he was gay, but Goldberg and The Advocate seemed certain enough of what Chris was saying that they not only ran the interview that way, but pitched it as Chris talking about being gay. Maybe. Maybe not. Today USA Today has an interview up with the following passage:
This prompted a number of blogs to wonder if Colfer was now back in the closet and even The Advocate posted a follow-up. They also cite an interview Colfer gave to Access Hollywood a while ago where he seems to be comparing his own coming out to that of Kurt's on Glee. So is Colfer in or out? Gay or straight? I don't know and I don't intend to ask. As I recently explained in my column on outing, I don't ask actors under age twenty one about their sexuality because putting that much pressure on someone so young — someone who might very well not have yet dealt with their sexuality — is out-of-bounds for me. That's why I didn't ask Chris when I chatted with him at the TCA, and the only reason I'm writing about it here is because we previously reported he was out due to The Advocate's interview. If Chris is in fact gay, I'm sure he'll let us know when he's ready. And if I talk to him after he turns twenty-one, I'll see if he's willing to talk about it then. Until that time, I hope those folks who have posted some very unpleasant comments on other sites, will zip it and cut the kid some slack. Submitted by on Wed, 2009-11-11 18:03. |
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It's none of our business
The nanosecond he grants an interview he makes it "our business"
"Chris is human." Who said he wasn't? He's also an actor selling a TV series and himself.
"my personal life is no one else's business" The simple fact of gayness tells us nothing about ANYONE'S personal life. You're not starring in a TV series as a gay high school kid therefore no questions are being made in your direction.
He already answered the question
" He can choose to share as much about his personal life as he w
Who said otherwise?
He is now "choosing" to lie. And I'm calling him on it.
No lie
Lie: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
Chris said to USA TODAY about his sexuality:
"I try to keep up a mystery. As much as I give away of my personal life, the less people will believe me as other characters. I try to be private about it. It is what it is,' Colfer says with a shrug."
There is no lie in that statement. Lie is a strong word. He chose to not answer the question directly. Note he used the word try. He already answered this question directly in The Advocate. Now he is trying to keep his private life more private. I don't like the work lie being used here, and disagree 100% that Chris lied about his sexuality.
Team Chris
I don't think he's gone "back into the closet" - my impression is that he wants to have some amount of privacy despite being on the show and doesn't want all the press about him to focus on his being gay, either. Maybe he feels like when it comes to talking about his sexuality, he's been there and done that and now he'd rather talk about something else.
Other people have made good points about how sometimes people his age haven't quite figured out their sexual orientation. Whatever the exact situation is here, I'm giving the guy a break.
Well good luck with that
He's playing a gay character and he's let it be known via The Advocate interview that he's gay himself.
"Other people have made good points about how sometimes people his age haven't quite figured out their sexual orientation."
Once again HE'S NOT A HIGH SCHOOL KID!!!!!!
Been there done that
He's already answered the question. What else is there to say? Nothing. Next....
Sorry, double-post.
Sorry, double-post.
Did you not read the
Fairness and Giving Chris Colfer the Benefit of the Doubt
Let me just state here that I hate the closet on general principal. I know it's not popular to say so but while I don't think anyone OWES it to anyone else to come out, I don't abide it in my life, work, activistm.
BUT, I don't actually believe for once second that Chris Colfer is closeted or is attempting to be.
It seems to me that you David are taking Chris Colfer to task for things other people have said ABOUT him (even those who are trying to "defend" him)
All comments to that effect were projected on to him by folks in this thread but they didn't come from his mouth and he shouldn't be held accountable for it.
Just because others choose to talk about a 19 year old as though he's a child doesn't meant that the 19 year old in question sees himself that way.
If you have evidence that he's lied about his sexuality, why not just present that evidence and let folks decide for themselves.
Actual, factual evidence that you can document and let us see where he lied about his sexuality would probably make this conversation less amorphous.
I think it would help folks to understand where you are coming from because right now all of your ire and accusations seem very random and OTT to me.
I find it hard to believe that you are basing your entire case about Chris Colfer being a "liar" and would be "closet case" on just this one statement to USA Today. If so, that's some pretty flimsy evidence.
The very most you could say about what he said to USA Today is that it's ambiguous. A non-answer is NOT the same thing as a lie. That's why people get to plead the 5th in court.
Do you really think that Chris Colfer's statement to USA Today is an actual attempt to "closet" himself after what he JUST said to The Advocate and Access Hollywood in October?
Do you really and truly not at all see how The Advocate and even you might be projecting meaning onto this statement that isn't there or wasn't his intent?
I wouldn't have a problem with an actor saying "I won't discuss my children with you." (which TONS of celebrities have done and still do) even if there were photos of them with their kids going about the living of their life.
I don't see it as a denial that they HAVE children, it's simply saying they don't want to talk about their children.
Since Chris Colfer is ALREADY OUT (as you've pointed out with your "bell can't be unrung" comment), does he not have the right from this point forward to pick and choose who he talks about being gay with?
I say that not because there is anything wrong with being gay or with talking about as much as you want, but because we KNOW some media outlets are better at talking about and to gay folks than others.
If I were Chris Colfer, I would DAMN SURE pick and choose who I talked to and how I talked to them.
It just seems like you jumped out the box condeming him for this one statement as if it magically erases his having just come out in print in October. He in fact did come out and he hasn't retracted those statements.
I'm a super gay kind of gay so I actually have no respect for the closet. I just don't. I get why people lie but that doesn't mean I accept their lying as reasonable or necessary.
I would never condemn someone for being closeted or out them but I don't think it's other people's responsibilty to protect peoples closets either.
I don't like celebrities who lie about being gay and I don't like celebrities or media outlets that treat being gay like a dirty secret.
I've said all of that many times on this site.
But much like with Matt B, I don't see any of that going on with Chris Colfer. I see no evidence. I need evidence.
I require some proof before I'm willing to accuse someone of being closeted because I do have such contempt for it.
Disregarding what you think about Hollywood or celebrities in general, I'm wondering what you KNOW about Chris Colfer's motives and intentions that we don't?
I don't care
Sorry. but i just don't care if an actor is gay or not. If he is gay, and want to tell it, fantastic, but if he don't want to publicly come out, it's not a problem to me. What i can't stand is the people who plays with ambiguity, and say something on an interview and completly the opposite on the next.
The job of an actor is to act, not to be a role model. And keeping private things to yourself is important, not only to their mental safe, and it's ridiculous to think that being out doesn't affect to your career.
People often metion Neil Patrick Harris as example, but Neil didn't come out, he was outed, and he deal pretty well with the situation, making all the story plays in his favour. But there are a lot of differences between Neil and other examples, because Neil has a long career on his back, and he has a reputation on theatre, it was pretty obvious he won't be jobless if he come out, that's not the case of a lot of actors.
And even when the actor wants (or just don't care) to come out, sometimes the studio pressure them to not doing. I remember (i think it was Nelson Branco the one who mentioned it, but i'm not sure) about a gay soap actor who is openly gay to his cast mates, and even to some fans, he wanted to come out but the studio told him that he better stay in the closet.
As i say, what i want for an actor is a good interpretation, if they are gay and out, perfect, but i don't care if they are in the closet as they just don't lie. And sorry, but i think americans are a bit obssesed with sexuality
If it's none of our business............
then why should any of us need to know that The Advocate said he was gay but USA Today is saying he isn't? It's none of our business after all, right?
This blog was basically questioning his sexuality while at the same time saying they wouldn't ask him - so what's the point?
Isn't it putting pressure on him by even having this blog written about him and questioning is he gay or isn't he?
Nail on the head
"This blog was basically questioning his sexuality while at the same time saying they wouldn't ask him - so what's the point? "
My thoughts exactly.
Ya know, cut the (and I
Ya know, cut the (and I cannot put more emphasis on this) kid some slack.
Coming out was not made any easier for me with the knowledge that "Hey, so-and-so famous guy is gay so my life will now be officially better in all ways than it was before." It was more about me learning not to give a damn what someone else's problem with gays was. In one's private life it's one thing to have to deal with whatever reactions family and friends throw at you. It's an entirely different kettle of fish when you move out into the public where you have to worry about coworkers and employers and random strangers who feel they have the moral imperative to instruct others on how to live their lives and punish them for not living up to their standards of right behavior.
When exactly did we become a society where every last detail of everyone's life was fodder for gossip? Where everyone in the world feels they have the right to decide how everyone else should live?
Frankly, if you're not one of the many porn star quality heavy-hung sex pigs I share my bed with, my sex life and how I live it ain't your goddamn business. And yours is none of mine.
"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself.
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
Walt Whitman Song of Myself
Oh that's Rich!
"When exactly did we become a society where every last detail of everyone's life was fodder for gossip? "
When Bing Crosby brought jazz up the river from New Orleans.
"Fodder for gossip" is the very essence of show business.
Thanks, David Hiltonstein!
Thanks for clarifying how we should rank your opinions, David Hiltonstein!
My name s David Ehrenstein
His name is Mario Lavanderia.
Can't remember who said this quote (I'm paraphrasing):
"The worst thing you can do after coming out of the closet is forgetting how awful it was to be in there."
He's not denying he's gay, he's just decided not talk about his dating life and whatnot anymore. Based on the quote about his hometown, can you imagine if people are calling his parents and sneering at them or even threatening them? (Shades of last night's "Glee.")
Let the kid alone. He'll elaborate more when he's ready. It's not our job to be piling our issues and preferences on him.
What's with this "dating life" bit?
He never said anything about "dating."
"Let the kid alone." brings to mind nothing so much as Hugh Marlowe and Gary Merrill calling Anne Baxter a "kid" in All About Eve.
And speaking of which, Mr. "Mystery" -- YOU'RE TOO SHORT FOR THAT GESTURE!
Sorry, don't mean to be
Wow. Just wow. Guess
Wow. Just wow. Guess what: you *are* rude, not to mention incredibly shallow and totally missing the point. It's all going whoosh over your head.
Rather than savaging each
Just to correct -- Ellen
Access Hollywood
Chris Colfer also talked about being gay to Access Hollywood which is not anything akin to the gay press and is viewed across the country middle America to the coasts.
The assumption that he's backing into the closet is just that, an assumption. There is no clear, definitive evidence that Chris Colfer wants folks to think he's straight.
I think it's a very serious accusation to claim a gay actor is trying to be closeted or is lying about their sexual orientation and there should be more evidence or proof than one tiny quote from a tiny interview that is ambiguous in its meaning.
It feels to me like other folks here and in the gay media are shoving him back into the closet having nothing to do with his own efforts or those of his handlers.
So what?
No we shouldn't respect that
It's the attitude of he who has no respect for the rest of us. The Out and Proud always seem to end up the villians in here. The closet clases -- and re Cofler the revolving-closet-door cases get all the sympathy.
And the tea that goes with it.
Respect
"So what? He doesn't want to comment on his private life, or changed his mind not to to comment on his private life. It's his right, and people should respect that. "
I don't know what obsession you have with other people's lives. Seriously, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't get it. When you respond to the above post with "No we shouldn't respect that" are you serious? You seem to want to force everyone out of the closet (which Mario Lavanderia does and you slammed him already). I am glad you seemed to have a very positive experience coming out at 15. I am very glad for the 60 year olds that come out. And ALL in between. We are all different, special, unique, and have our own life path. In a perfect world our coming out stories would all be the same (there wouldn't be one!). I can't imagine ANYONE telling me what I have to do, act, or say. Or dissecting some comments I made when I was 19 years old. This is what you're doing to Chris. You don't have the right--it's his life not yours.
I can call anyone anything I like, doesn't make it true or real.
You have no evidence that Chris Colfer is closeted or is trying to be closeted. You simply don't. All you have is speculation and conjecture.
There is, in fact, more evidence that he is OUT AND PROUD then there is evidence that he is closeted or wants to be.
You don't seem to care if what you're accusing him of is true or not.
You just keep SAYING he's closeted or trying to be closeted but you aren't really pointing to anything that makes that clear or would provide others with evidence as to why you feel this way SO INCREDIBLY STRONGLY.
Just because you call someone a liar doesn't make them a liar.
Generally speaking you need to back that up with more than an ambiguous statement presented to a third party(s) and then regurgitated by a 4th party whose motives and intentions are dubious at best.
You are willfully ignoring the fact that The Advocate and you have both jumped the gun without any clarification.
The absence of clarification to the contrary does not make you assumptions true David.
And since you hold being out and proud to such high esteem, I'd think you'd want proof that someone is ACTUALLY closeted before you'd be willing to accuse them of it.
There is nothing clear or definitive about Chris Colfer's quote in USAToday. The only reason there is all this hoopla is because people have interpreted it different ways and now everybody's churning themselves into butter about it.
Even you can't say that that statement to USA Today is proof that Chris Colfer wants folks to think he's straight (not with any honesty). The anyone could honestly say is that it is UNCLEAR (because we don't live inside his head).
Why are you so determined to call Chris Colfer a liar?
Has he done something in particular that makes you respond so viciously because that's what it feels like to me.
While folks on this thread all have different ideas about the closet and when folks should come out and how and blah, blah, the only real issue is not what you or we think Chris Colfer thinks, means or feels.
The question should be: Did Chris Colfer mean to indicate that he is NOT GAY in his statement to USA Today?
That's the question no one has yet provided a clear, definitive answer to as far as I can tell.
You can't just speculate what you think he meant and run with that as if it's gospel. I mean you can, but why would you want to?
EVERYBODY deserves the benefit of the doubt before being called a liar in the press or by the press.
Like I said, I HATE the closet (I've made that clear in posts unrelated to this one) and I happen to think calling someone a closet case is a pretty big deal if it's not true.
You can't just decide on your own that someone is closeted and then spend pages and pages insulting them without having spoken to them or their handlers or presenting any evidence that what you ASSUME about him is actually true.
I mean, you can do it, but why would you?
Don't you want to know the actual truth or is it enough to just make stuff up?
If it's not true that he's closeted, shouldn't we be celebrating his being out and proud and visible?
Again, I think there is WAY MORE EVIDENCE at this point that he is out than any indicating he's closeted. That point doesn't feel ambiguous to me at all.
Until he retracts his statement to Access Hollywood and The Advocate about being gay or in some way actually contradicts what he said to them, I'm willing to give Chris Colfer the benefit of the doubt that he simply didn't want to talk about being gay with USA Today (for whatever reasons).
I DO NOT accept that Chris Colfer's statement to USA TOday as quoted is a closeted statement.
I would think other journalist would be unwilling to do so without further evidence or clarification.
David Ehrenstein you are the definition of intolerance
"No we shouldn't respect that"....coming from a gay man, part of a community that seeks respect, how can you say this? All of your posts, all the mean, hateful, narrow minded things, simply astound me. you have NO right to force anyone out of the closet. I'm happy that you're out. Out and proud gay men are not the bad guys. Men like you who try and drag people out of the closet are the bad guys. Forcing Chris Colfer to come out (which I believe he already has, but anyways) WILL DO NOTHING FOR THE GAY COMMUNITY! A gay man who is forced out before his time will in no way be a good role model, or positive representation of the community. It is when individuals CHOOSE to be out, choose to be proud of who they are that something meaningful happens. The power of coming out is in self recognition. Do not dare to attempt to take Chris Colfer's choice away from him. IF he is back in the closet, it his his choice when to come out, and to whom.
You want to know why people are commenting so negatively against you? because you come across as a bitter old gay man who has forgotten what it's like to be a confused teenager.
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I may be straight, but I'm not narrow.
What makes him "a confused teenager if he's out
as you claim?
Get you story straight.
"You want to know why people are commenting so negatively against you?"
You think I care?
maybe he's out. maybe not.
maybe he's out. maybe not. either way the way you're treating him shows how much you've forgotten what a difficult and confusing process coming out it.
but I guess you don't care so why am I wasting my time explaining this? guess I juat can't stand mean people getting away with their actions.
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Reductio Ad Absurdum
Rereading the article prompted a thought. If the hypothesis that's proposed there is actually to be taken seriously (that is, that Colfer's coming out in the Advocate was actually a misunderstanding and he did not, in fact, come out), then shouldn't Colfer's title as Gay of The Week from then be retroactively revoked and the crown for that week awarded to the runner-up?
(And no, I'm not being serious. Just funnin' around & askin'.)
Wow, with all of these comments...
I'm not even getting involved, where would I start? But, now we are going to get another lecture in this week's BGWE!! :-) I kid.
Speaking of though, I was checking out AfterEllen the other day and the BLWE was basically just a reposting of the week's blogs. Not to knock it, but I like the BGWE format much better!
"Open up your mind and then open up your heart. And you will see that you and me aren't very far apart." - Blessid Union of Souls
I don't know
I don't know, this is all really hard..
I mean, it's his private life, and he's young and all that. But at the same time, he's an ACTOR, talking about ones private life comes with the territory!
Also, I don't understand why he won't talk about the fact, I mean, he already more or less came out in The Advocate interview, so why he's paddling the other direction now is beyond me. Why did he even come out in the first place? Why couldn't he say "no comment" when he talked to The Advocate? Either go all the way or don't at all.
I know it's none of my business, he has to do as he wants, but I can't help but feeling a little bit disappointed. We had an openly gay young guy at the start of his career. It would be great if he could be out and proud. Or even just say "I'm gay, but my private life is my business, and I don't wanna talk about that". He could even be a role model for other young gay teens out there. Instead he is just being ambigeous, and well, I just think it's stupid and unecessary.
Harvey Milk: You gotta give 'em hope.
You got it Mia!
Just goes to show we have to fight the bigots on two front
Stop the fighting! Where is the progress?
I wish the in-fighting would cease. While I don't completely agree with all of Mr. Ehrenstein's points, I certainly understand where he's coming from. I don't see him as being hateful, intolerant, or a bigot. I see him as tired that this issue is still being discussed. I see him extremely frustrated that things haven't changed. I remember when outing was a hot topic in the early nineties, and it is dispiriting that little progress has been made.
I don't know what Colfer's motives were nor do I care, but I thought it was interesting timing that his character had a speech about being himself while the whole is he or isn't he question was debated.
MY problem with the outing situation is that each case is different. There is no one size fits all outing or coming out.
I don't think Chris Colfer
I don't think Chris Colfer is denying his being gay or has strayed back into the closet as nothing he has said indicates this. I do think that he is very young and thrust into a life in the spotlight that must be pretty overwhelming and if he wants his privacy and not have people put him under a microscope I can certainly understand that.
Be that as it may, in general I'm very happy when gay men decide to live their lives openly and proudly because visibility (I love that credo) really, really matters. There are so many people I know who, while not being as homophobic as your religious right in the USA, were jumpy and weirded out by the idea of gay men. Yet whenever they're confronted with actual gay people they do change their attitudes. Harvey Milk was so undeniably right in that. I know I can't begin to understand what it's like to come out even under the most positive circumstances, but it always makes me happy when a gay man does take the plunge. Every year on my birthday, which is on Coming out day, I'm thinking about the people who do and admire them.
it all boils down to this: we're NOT chris.
after reading all the comments, i think i get both sides
i honestly get that people are sick and tired of the 'people are still closeted' issue.
i also get wanting to give this man room and time...and privacy
but....i'm not him. none of us are. he's not ellen. he's not NPH or adam lambert. he is Chris Colfer.
fine. let's say he did go back in the closet. ok? fine. is he hurting me? no. he's not hurting anyone, but possibly himself. it's not MY life. not MY choice. not MY career. it's HIS life. HIS choice to be out or not, or whatever.
i love the idea of having proud, out people. sadly, that is NOT reality. our society has not fully gotten there.
whether you're a famous movie star or somebody in a small town, there are always reasons to be either be in...or out. it sucks to have to hide. i know. i think a lot of us know that experience. a lot of us also know the joy of being able to be who we are.
but as others have mentioned, everyone has a different journey. we may not agree with it. we may not like it. we may call this person a liar, a traitor, ashamed.
ok. call chris every name you can think of. but really....i say it all the freaking time...people need to live for themselves before they can live their life for someone else or in this case, a lot of damn people (fans and whatnot)
if chris is out, great. wonderful. if he decided "oh crap, i dont want to be out" then ok. his freaking choice. i may not like it, but seriously....he is not hurting me one. damn. bit.
at the end of everyday, if we all choose to be someone else....we're only hurting OURSELVES.
Coming Out for the Older Generation
Did show execs ''panic''?
This thread is about played
Out and Proud
Ryan Murphy is one of the most successful TV producers currently working and he is out and proud. He has a special bond with Chris Golfer (not sexual) and seems to be mentoring his young star. As the creator of GLEE he has a lot to say about the promotion and marketing of his newest hit. He well knows what the ADVOCATE is and has himself been profiled in it. There is no question he knew what Chris was likely to say and did not have a problem with his coming out as a gay man. There is no shortage of media trainers and publicists who knew how exactly how Mr. Golfer's answers would be interpreted. I am sure if they wanted to the Fox executives could have had the comment struck from the article. Mr. Golfer has in fact. stepped up to the plate as a man and taken responsibilty for how he is perceived. The USA Today article does not having him denying his sexuality. It is actually is rather awkwardly written. On one hand they state that Golfer doesn't address his sexuality and then quotes him as saying he keeps it a mystery...to be private about it. The later part is a rather stock answer. So, did he address his sexuality or not? Something seems askew in the USA Today quote. If he didn't address the issue, how can the reporter quote him on it?
If we want assimilation and acceptance we need celebrate the small successes and not denigrate them for not being enough. The grand gesture has a short shelflife. At the end of the day his sexuality is only one aspect of who he is as a man. Being famous at any age is a difficult life, everyone wants a piece of you. It can be confusing, lonely and downright scary. Give the guy some space to enjoy his new found acclaim. We don't need to see this talented youngman become the next tragic Hollywood post-teen overdose.
That's all I am saying...
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