This is about as gay as "Dollhouse" will get for now

It's certainly not Joss' best work, but it's still great and getting better every week.

I hope it'll Queer up a bit after they move into other characters than Eliza. (I wouldn't be opposed to Victor gettin' some gay-lovin'.)

I heard that Fox was very active in controlling the first 5 episodes but that the rest of the season was left relatively alone.  IMO, this is why the past five were Echo-centric and this episode focused on Paul Ballard's nipples (Awesome!) and Victor's erections. (Awesome proportional to imagined inches!)

I'm a wee bit apprehensive about how they'll include the gays (and I'm sure they will; if Echo has to get it on lesbian-style, Victor will have to foil that).  In a show whose entire premise is what is nature and what is nurture how will the creative team fall on the issue of homosexuality?  Will they deal with it gracefully enough to do the political connotations justice or will they ham-handedly knock into one category or the other?

I will definitely settle for gratuitous male nudity for the first season just as long as we get a Kick. Ass. gay storyline (or character) second season.

I really did want to love this show - which is odd, because I honestly never cared about Buffy (ducks shoe).  The first several episodes, well, they pretty much sucked in my opinion.  But this last episode smelled sweetly of Whedon subversive writing to me.  I loved the man-on-the-street transitions as a plot device.  And I actually thought this one, with the guy wondering, was pretty cute.  Maybe my standards are lower with Fox.  But we know from considerable press, Whedon didn't get control of this show until episode six - Fox dictated the first 5 episodes.  

The show's got a lot of bad press for anti-women views (even though the hero and the villain are both women), and I thought that guy's interview was designed to soften that up - it's not just women being bought for sex or something.  I see it also as sort of running the gay angle up the flagpole - it is a show that has low ratings, and  a lot of them are presumed by most articles to be fanboys, not the most tolerant/mature bunch all the time.  Maybe they're seeing if they run the rainbow idea up the flagpole, if nobody  salutes, maybe they can hope nobody actually does a flagburning, either.

To me, that conversation wasn't exactly the show's gayest moment - that belongs to the prior week, when Topher discovers Victor having man reactions - for whatever reason, I see Topher as more than a little confused sexually - he builds fantasies for a living, is a little nerdy.  I think they can have him go a lot of different directions. And I love him for adding the term man reactions to my vocabulary.

Yeah, I'd like to see a character modeled on that Facebook cutie millionaire engage the Dollhouse, but I'd rather give them time to do it right.  Let's face it, the story could go so wrong - closeted billionaire buys services of Dollhouse guy because he's ashamed?  Maybe he's publicly married?  If they don't get that episode right, we here at AE would rip them apart.  

I'd really rather they gave us a non-Doll gay first.  Maybe a gay handler for a female Doll to prevent them from molesting the Dolls, like the one guy did with Sierra.

It's been pretty clear after seeing the sixth and seventh episodes that Fox has a great deal of influence (reported to be an enforced 'slower and dumber') on the first five episodes. Joss was forced to make five stand-alone episodes, and was also forced to redo the pilot. Since it's pretty clear from most of their actions over the last ten years, the execs at Fox are complete idiots, this all makes sense in Fox!bizarroland. Episode six was incredble - much morelike I expected the pilot to be. This week's episode was also much better, and had a very twisted sense of humor woven in. I certainly can't agree with anyone's negative opinion if it is based on the episodes 1-5; it's like a different show. I'm looking forward to the remaining six episodes.   

But Dollhouse is unwatchable.  I won't be around for round for next week let alone next season.

Thats all I am saying... 

INSIDEGUY

So yes the show moves slowly. But one has to remember that Eliza is a new person every episode. So character development has to be a b**ch. And yes there may not be any gay themes now, but I think it should be given some time. If a gay theme is introduced, it will most likely be a romantic type that requires time, not just a "quikie in the alley". Its a new series and overall pretty good. The concepts have potential and allows for great opportunities. Plus Joss Whedon is AMAZING!!

~*~Eternity is Only Forever~*~