"One Life to Live" reportedly second show to lose actor over gay storyline.
This weekend soap boards were abuzz with news that U.S. daytime television apparently lost another actor due to a gay storyline. (Chris Engen left The Young and the Restless earlier this month, reportedly in part over having to kiss another man.) This time it is One Life to Live's Patricia Mauceri who is being replaced by Saundra Santiago. To nutshell it for you, Maureci's character (Carlotta Vega) was to have a "comedic" storyline in which she mistakenly believed her womanizing son Cristian (David Fumero, pictured below) was gay. Daytime Confidential reported that Mauceri personally objected to a gay-positive storyline while SoapCentral says not only was the actress already unhappy with the show, but the show might have deliberately provoked her into quitting.
Would you object if this man was gay? Both sites, as well as Nelson Branco's The Suds Report, promise to have more on the controversy today. If it turns out Mauceri truly objected to playing a gay storyline, then kudos to the show for giving her the ax. An actor isn't hired to express their religious or personal beliefs, but to play a role. That being said, Mauceri is perfectly within her free speech rights to voice her objections — at the risk of losing her job. As for those nuts claiming her rights are being violated by her being fired, try actually reading and understanding the U.S. constitution for a change. But I have to say, I think there might have been a better way to handle Mauceri's religious objections (if there were any). Frankly, I'd love to see this scene on daytime television. INT Carlotta's restaurant Buenos Dias. A weepy Carlotta sits across from Cristian. CRISTIAN: I'm telling you for the last time, Ma, I'm not gay. But so what if I were? There's nothing wrong with it. CARLOTTA: Ay caramba! Where did I go wrong? It says it's a sin right there in the Bible! CRISTIAN: Where does it say that, Ma?
CARLOTTA (whips out a bible): Right here! Leviticus 20:13. "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." See, right there!
CARLOTTA: Whuh? Does not!
CARLOTTA: Um ... that's different... CRISTIAN: And Leviticus 15:19 says "When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening." Good thing you're menopausal, Ma, otherwise I might be "unclean" since I hugged you when I got here.
Oh, and here is something else, Leviticus 19:19 says "neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee." (Studies the shawl around Carlotta's shoulders) Isn't that the cotton/wool blend shawl I gave you last Christmas?
CRISTIAN: And don't forget Ephesians 6:5. CARLOTTA: Well ... those don't count. There were reasons for those way back then.
CRISTIAN: But being gay is the same now? I think you're being a hypocrite, Ma. Submitted by on Mon, 2009-06-29 15:30. |
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Patricia Mauceri is out, Saundra Santiago is in ... and younger

Never seen the show
but from the script you've written I know I'm missing something special.
Excellently funny, Mr Jensen. I laughed a lot. Well done
Shoe on other foot - devil's advocate question
It's exactly the same
situation, unless what your job is asking you to do is illegal, which is a whole different thing. You as a human being have a right and sometimes an obligation to refuse to do anything which you find morally, ethically or (rumor has it, artistically) objectionable in your job. The people that employ you then have the right and sometimes an obligation to fire you based on that refusal. Many jobs include a right to terminate without cause in contracts, but certainly they have the right to fire you for not doing your job. In the US at least.
IIRC, the rumor was that Jane Elliot left General Hospital years ago because she objected to her characters behavior in regards to abortion. And she played a character that was severely morally challenged, to the point of leaving her dying father laying on the floor so she could inherit.
In both cases, the subject is something thats still controversial enough that as an actor you could take a job and reasonably never expect to deal with the issue, so I certainly cut them more slack than say a pharmacist or a doctor refusing to do their job on the same grounds.
What I'm curious about though is why, if the actress has been on the show for 14 yrs, they weren't willing to just give the scene to another actor. It doesn't sound like it is pivotal to either the character or the storyline and I can't imagine they are so committed to gay rights that they are willing to let go of everybody not comfortable with this story line. It does sound more like they just wanted to get rid of the actress .
If a gay actor
I find this
even more stupid that CE debacle. That woman doesn't seem to have a notion of what being an actress is.
At least Chris Engen always can alleged that he thinks playing a gay (well Adam wasn't gay, and seeing today's episode this seems to be even more sexless than Nuke during the kiss ban) could damage his career (very questionable, but it seems lot of US actors seem the same, including a good bunch of gay ones). But this case borders the ridicule, i hope she stays without job a good time, so maybe next time she doesn't act brainless
Actors Refusing To Act Should be Fired. Plain and Simple.
I don't really see how there are two sides.
As an actor, her job is to perform what's written in the script. Period.
She doesn't have to like it or believe it's what her character would do or say or think. Her job is to try to make it work.
If she had problems with the script and voiced her concerns to the writers/directors and they couldn't come to a compromise, then her job was to perform the scenes as written.
It was a coulple scenes and she's a minor character on the show. From what I've read, I get why it would be important for the scenes to go as they planned. It makes sense within the context of Fish and Christian's story. But it was still a small part and she shouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
On a personal level, I reject the idea that a catholic woman (latina or not) in 2009 couldn't grow and change and develop different ideas about homosexuality. This idea that her character WOULD NEVER think a certain think defies logic. Human beings change what they think about things all the time. Being Latina and being Catholic doesn't make the character immune to growth as a person.
At any rate, refusing to do the scene as instructed isn't a "free speech" or "civil rights" or "religious rights" issue.
Loads of actors talk about being frustrated with particular scenes or lines or storylines with their characters but they don't refuse to work.
This actor refused to do the scenes (it doesn't matter why) and they fired her. She also didn't have a contract so they were completely within their rights to fire her.
If the actor was black or gay and refused to do a scene because they believed it reflected badly on their character or wasn't in keeping with what they believed their character would do, I'd feel the same way.
Soaps in particular don't have a lot of time for rewrites and long drawn out debates and back and forths with an actor of scenes.
This actress took it upon herself to refuse to do the job she was hired to do (whether it was her personal objections or she was objecting on behalf of the character doesn't matter)
I don't see the controversy?
"That's our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay sentiment." (Bayard Rustin) ** "Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common" (Dorothy Parker)
There's a reason it's called "acting"
Acting is not about being oneself or expressing one's own views. It's about playing a role, perhaps a role very different than who the actor is as a private individual. If you cannot separate your real life from your character roles then you aren't suited to be an actor.
Would a conservative Christian soap opera actress refusing to do a scene involving adultery be allowed to re-write the whole script of the show? Would she be allowed to refuse to "get married" in a visibly Protestant wedding ceremony on the show arguing that only marriages in the Catholic Church are valid?
This seems, to me, to be an absurdity. If an actor cannot pretend to be someone other than themself they are in the wrong profession.
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I don't believe that she was pushed out
She barely ever appears on the show. They would have no reason to provoke her into leaving. Supposedly this happened very suddenly, and because they were close to filming, they had to bring in a replacement quickly.
This is just going to fuel the homophobia out there, and I'm not sure ABC will not cave to pressure. ABC Daytime is not very gay-friendly. I hope they will still see the story out. I'm enjoying it.
I don't want to Out anybody...
...but according to what I've read elsewhere, 2 of the key behind-the-scenes people at OLTL are both gay. Additionally, ABC daytime has a better track record of portraying gay characters than either NBC or CBS: All My Children, One Life to Live and General Hospital have featured gay characters in the past, beginning with AMC introducing the first out lesbian in 1983, then introducing Erica's lesbian daughter Bianca in 2000; OLTL had the terrific Billy Douglas teen gay story in the early 90s, Marcie's brother (admittedly rarely seen) was openly gay, then there was the notorious closeted Daniel Colson, who was so determined to keep his homosexuality a secret that he killed people; and GH had gay teen Lucas, who came out and then disappeared from the show. Now, not all these stories were perfect, but they have tried to do gay stories more consistantly, and, personally, I find the Fish/Kyle storyline to be the best yet, the first one the promises to compare to VL's Christian/Olli storyline.
... and two of the actors on
Only two works , Ian McKellen
He played a nazi (and give me chills doing it) in Apt Pupil. I don't think he has any simpathy for the character, but it was a good character to play, an he did it great.
That is act, plain and simple. The only motivation to an actor to refuse a character, is thinking that he or she won't be able to portray it well. The rest is shit (sorry but i think calling actor or actress to this people is being too much generous)
best. fake. scene. ever.
Reason #753,934,001 I Hope Soap Scribes Read Afterelton
This news makes me kind of sad, because I've enjoyed Mauceri's work for years. It feels like that moment when you come out to a friend you thought you were close to, and learn that the "gay thing" is a friendship dealbreaker.
But, as Metrosexuality's Max says: "Whateva!"
Cristian 1.0, Gone. Kamar De Los Reyes, Gone. Carlotta's Original Diner, Gone.
I think the writing was on the wall.The links don't mention "Cristian"
To clarify
First, here's the article that mentions that these were comic scenes involving Carlotta's son Cristian:
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2009/06/28/the-story-beat-that-oltls-patricia-mauceri-allegedly-protested-revealed
Second, the pics are definitely One Life to Live; the tags in the bottom right of the pics are just promos for All My Children.
Nelson Branco's latest column
In Nelson Branco's latest column (link below), he quotes a close friend of Mauceri's who says that "She's a staunch Christian and is very opposed to homosexuality."
http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/Nelson+Ratings+June+29+2009/Soaps/Nelson_Ratings/Articles/090629_ratings_nelson_NB.htm?isfa=1
She wasn't fired
If the actor didn't have a long-term contract, then she is re-hired every time they use her with a short-term contract spelling out every last detail of employment. Even the extras, under-fives and dayplayers get these types of short-term contract.
She has obviously refused a contract for upcoming employment. She is within her rights. The producers are within their rights to find someone else who will agree to play the scenes under the terms they specify.
I do find it ridiculous however, that the producers have frequently omitted the character of Carlotta from scenes where it would make sense to have her. I'd accuse them of pushing this situation in order to save money and find a less expensive actor, but Saundra Santiago has a distinguished resume in theatre, movies, primetime and daytime tv. She can't be any cheaper to hire than Mauceri.
Both Sides
I can't raise too much sympathy for her, but at the same time, in AE's recent interview with Thom Bierdz, he talked about how he'd do the job for as long as they were incorporating his real-life traits into the character (being cagey about whether he meant being gay or interested in art), and no one batted an eye. No one questioned who he was to dictate plot terms to the producers, or suggested that he should be slapped down.
So I'm not sure these reactions are as politics-free as it's been suggested. Where is the "he should shut up and do as he's told" when it comes to the gay actor?
Even though she was a contract player at one point...
This is disappointing...
I am a big OLTL fan, and I'm kind of sad to hear about this. I actually liked the Carlotta character as played by Patricia Mauceri. Still, she has hardly been on screen at all this year.
If you read the other article though, it makes it more clear that she was unhappy with her character suddenly changing (it would be very out of character for Carlotta to suddenly be very supportive of Cristian being gay.) I can understand that. If your character is barely on screen at all, and when you're brought back on you suddenly are playing a whole new character, but with the same name, it would be a little off putting. So, they are taking Carlotta in a new direction, and they got a new actress (who doesn't look like she is old enough to be Cristian and Antonio's mother).
Well, maybe now that they have a sexier Carlotta the Vega family will get more screen time.
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OLTL has always been the gayest soap on the air
I don't mean it necessarily has always had the most gay characters, but it's always had the gayest sensibilities (they even had Charles Busch playing a hard-boiled female talent agent in a "New York" sequence), and their best-written times (like now) have always been when the head writer is gay.
So if I had to surmise, I'd suspect that Ms. Mauceri has been a judgey-Christian pain in the ass on that set for some time, and this was the perfect opportunity for the behind-the-scenes fabulous-types to get the un-homo-friendly fly out of the ointment. Or the lube, if you prefer.
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The BIG Difference
I wonder...
ABC confirms Carlotta recast on OLTL
Daytime Confidential has received confirmation of the recast and has further details that dispute the conspiracy theories that they wanted to get rid of the actress:
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2009/06/29/abc-confirms-carlotta-recast-on-oltl
Recast
I was neutral on the reasons for her dismissal, but their point about recurring cast members is pretty convincing.
Also, if she was so outspoken about her views of homosexuality that TPTB would have known it would be an effective lever to get her out, what kind of work environment must that have created for Scott Evans? Yowsa.
buckeyeinCA
Patricia Mauceri
I've seen lots of people mention that, though possibly not in this particular thread.
My guess is that either her character didn't express those views, or she viewed that character differently.
I can't believe I'm about to (partially) defend the woman, but I think maybe she can actually tell the difference between characters and reality, unlike several people have speculated. What I think she doesn't get is that if she disagrees with the writers over what a character would do, the writers (or, more accurately, the producers) win. period.