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Sunday night's "Desperate Housewives" featured a surprise gay reveal!

Todd Grinnell

Regular readers might recollect that several week's ago in my BEST.GAY.WEEK.EVER! I mentioned that Desperate Housewives had cast Todd Grinnell in the part of a gay plastic surgeon. Well, on last night's episode, a twist at the end revealed just how Todd's character was going to fit into the show. Find out how and watch the clip after the jump! Warning: It's a spoiler!

During the big nightclub fire several week's back, Orson suffered a broken nose which, we learned last night, was going to require surgery from a plastic surgeon. During the consultation with the plastic surgeon, Bree and Orson behave rather oddly causing a conversation in which the doctor is asked about his marital status. He answers that he isn't married, but is seeing someone. Are your gay Spidey senses tingling yet as to who that person might be?

After Orson and Bree leave, the doctor calls his significant other to make him promise they won't ever turn into one of those bizarre older couples like Orson and Bree. And that's when we learn the surgeon is dating ... well, I'll let you watch. It's a short clip.


That's right — Andrew is finally getting a boyfriend! Even better, it appears they are engaged! And next week's preview shows the storyline getting more play as gay househusbands Bob and Lee make an appearance to tell Bree that Doctor Plastic Surgeon might not be quite as upstanding as he seems. In fact, they think he might have done porn.

Okay, everyone not wild about that storyline raise your hand? Yeah, me too. With any luck, they won't be going there. 

Chuckles's picture

Yayyy!!!

Ok, not going to lie.  I totally just did the happy gay clap when I saw Andrew reply on the phone.  Call me a sucker for redemption.  But after all that crap he went through a couple seasons ago, its nice to see him move up in the world!
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giovannif7's picture

Oh please!

I'd wager that a good number of gay men would love to settle down with a doctor/plastic surgeon who's hot enough to have done gay porn. I'm just glad to see Andrew is finally getting some again, even if it is mostly off-camera.

Anyway, no raised hand here - I'm actually looking forward to seeing how Bree deals with the information. We already know she's not above using gay porn to her advantage - Bree did show Andrew's grandparents some of his magazines so that they'd change their minds about Andrew living with them. It'll be interesting to see how she deals with it now that she has a public image to protect.

David Ehrenstein's picture

The gay porn connection is perfect!

Andrew saw him in videos and then one day while walking down the street. . .

Yes it';s nice to see him gettin' some action. And of course there'll be trouble. This is Deseprate Housewives.  

 

zanefan's picture

Gay Porn

Michael, I'm not sure what you meant when you said "Okay, everyone not wild about that storyline raise your hand? Yeah, me too. With any luck, they won't be going there."

Why isn't that a valid storypoint? 

My only hesitation with them addressing this kind of thing is that Marc Cherry most likely will present it in the most condescending, self-hating way.  Like gay porn will lead you to a life of prostitution and drugs or something, lol...

Michaelangelo's picture

Any storypoint is a valid

Any storypoint is a valid one if you do it right, but why do they have to go there already?  The gays of Wisteria(and I've forgotten their names since they barely exist) just keep living up to the gay stereotype it seems and are only used when MC wants to reinforce another stereotype.   Now, they get to costar as the pervy gay neighbors.  And Andrew couldn't possibly have found a good man, right?  It's just like the gays to pair up with seedy elements.  How bout a stable, gay relationship amidst the myriad dysfunctional straight ones.  Let Andrew show the idiotic Susan, hypocrit Lynette, insipid Gabby and anal-retentive Brie how a real relationship is supposed to work. 

Obviously, the storyline could be handled well, but considering the way that they've handled the gays so far on this show, I'm not optimistic. 

Michael Jensen's picture

Which is exactly my point.

Frankly, I thought everyone would be outraged given all the complaints about Andrew's past behavior (which I've usually defended). But Andrew finally gets a boyfriend and there is a gay porn angle? I guess us gay guys are so into porn and sex that even a successful plastic surgeon had the time, need and/or interest to do porn as well. Plus, as Michelangelo said above, Bob and Lee have seen enough porn to happen to recognize Dr. Hot Stuff. Yes, this is a soap opera and bizarro stuff happens, but why couldn't something a little less cliche and stereotypical happen to Andrew. But maybe teh storyline will turn out to be great.
Knickie's picture

I see Bob and Lee as the

I see Bob and Lee as the most "normal" (I hate that word!) couple on the street. They and Karen (the older woman who is labeled by everyone else as nutty, but who is actually the most savvy person around) are the most level-headed residents of Wisteria Lane. I'd like to see them used more as a kind of Greek Chorus to comment on the action. As to the porn plot -- it's comedy/soap opera. I don't see it as insulting at all. Hey, three of the husbands have been in prison. On an upper middle class street what are the odds?
Michael Jensen's picture

Yes, but it's not exactly a stereotype that straight

men are going to end up in prison, whereas it is a stereotype that all gay men are sex-obsessed. Seriously, it took us YEARS to overcome the image of gay men constantly being on the prowl for sex and obsessed with it. Hell, those promoting Proposition 8 still believe that is true and use it against us.
TonyG's picture

I am probably wrong...

But I took that line from Bob as a joke. As in, he's pulling Bree's leg. Time will tell...
David Ehrenstein's picture

They're talking on the phone about end tables

Obviously this is the sickest of all gay fetishes -- right Michael?
Taste_The_Rainbow's picture

Andrew and The Doctor

Tell me if I'm stepping out of line but I really don't see why watching porn in and of itself makes Boy and Lee "pervy" ( I mean everybody watches porn, even the "FRIENDS" had an entire episode devoted to the group of them watching non-stop porn)

I also don't see why you can't have performed in a legal porn film and still be a "good guy" and fabulous boyfriend for Andrew.

Isn't the fact that he's a successful doctor proof of just the opposite? I just think in this day and age, we as gays, have to be a bit more progressive in our judgements of fellow gays and lesbians.

I would not be exaggerating to say that a good sizable portion of my friends and "family" as it were have done completely legal, consentual porn or some other kind of legal sex work at some point in the 80s and 90s to put themselves through school or just to support themselves as artists, etc and they would all be considered "successful" in their current professions.

Obviously, the story could be mishandled but on the face of it, I don't see the big deal.

Folks on Wisteria Lane have done awful, violent things towards each other. Porn kinda seems like a non-issue exept in that it will challenge Brie's bizare antiquated sense of right, wrong and propriety (which could be fun) and pit her desire to be above reproach (which is a joke at this point) against her desire to show Andrew how much she loves and approves of him.


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Joseph's picture

I agree about gay porn

Appearing in gay porn in and of itself does not make a person bad. I don't know any porn stars personally, as friends, but I've met several and many of them seem to be really great guys, and they have used their "fame" for some good causes.

The problem, of course, is going to be how DH portrays it. I don't watch the show anymore (but did catch the last few minutes before B&S last night), precisely because of the increasingly insulting writing (and the addition to the cast of a certain actor I can't stand). I don't expect DH to tell this story the right way.

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zanefan's picture

Agreed

That's precisely my perspective as well, which is why I had to ask Michael to clarify his perspective.  I usually chafe against sweeping generalizations such as "porn = evil" and "porn star = bad person."  It's a touch puritanical for my tastes.

And I personally think DH is the wrong show to go looking for positive representations of ANYONE, much less gay people.  Having Bob and Lee acknowledge that they watch porn is probably the most realistic thing this show has ever done.  I'd like to think we're long since past the need for Ken Doll wholesomeness in our representation?

 

Michael Jensen's picture

No, no, no! I definitely am not saying

there is anything wrong with people who are in porn! My point is just that DH can sometimes treat it's gay characters less than respectfully and, frankly, I'm constantly aware of how we are being presented in the media. I just hate the idea of DH's pretty middle of the road audience finally seeing Andrew in a relationship and it being associated with porn. It's not like we don't already have a hard enough time getting people to take our relationships seriously. But I'm also starting to suspect that those who have said that was just a throwaway line might be right. At least I'm hoping so.
zanefan's picture

Ah, I see...

I got it now.  Thanks for clarifying.

I more or less agree, except for the part about "getting people to take our relationships seriously."  I guess I'm getting old, but I care less and less about living my life for the acceptance/tolerance of others.  Either they get it or they don't, it's on them! :-)

kcwin's picture

The doctor looks over

The doctor looks over thirty, so did he do porn to put himself through medical school? lol It sounds like a throwaway line to get Bree all worked up for nothing. More importantly, I would like to know why Andrew, who still looks like he's eighteen playing dress up, would hook up with an older guy. Is it like mother like son? Rex was a doctor, right? And how did a loony mom like Bree end up with a daughter married to a lawyer and a son dating a doctor?
isoron's picture

Really?

You think guys in their 20's shouldn't be interested in guys in their 30's.

I find that a little offensive my late partner was actually 20 years older than me. 

 

dostka's picture

WHAT IF WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING

We only caught a long glimpse of who Andrew was kissing in the coming attractions.  What if we're missing something?  Like, what if Brie finds out Andrew is dating and insists his boyfriend comes to dinner.  But the good doctor doesn't want Brie to find out her son is dating the guy who's going to operate on Orson; so Andrew hires a porn star to pretend to be his boyfriend, not counting on the porn actor being recognized by Bob and Lee.  I mean, that sounds a lot like something Andrew would do, and a lot like something Marc Cherry would throw in. 

Or I could be completely wrong.

I guess we'll all have to watch next week and see.

AsA3DollarBill's picture

Mmmmmmh

I really liked Todd Grinnell on the short-lived FOUR KINGS on NBC with Seth Green.  He played Jason, the probably gay but closeted BFF/roommate.  I coincidentally watched all 13 episodes a couple weeks ago, and it was obvious as the show went on that they were getting ready to out him officially but never got the chance.

The best episode was when Jason's boss (along with one of the regulars) saw Jason's giant penis at the gym locker room and then got all threatened by it.  This was one of several episodes where the producers (Mohan/Mutchnick of WILL & GRACE) found reasons for Grinnell to be naked, which I highly recommend on principle.

I'm glad to see him on DH, especially as Andrew's hubbie.  As for the age difference, Pyfrom is 22 and Grinnell is 32 in real life, but Andrew's character should be 24-25 now.  So it's not that big a difference, and Andrew's certainly written and acted as more mature this season.  Besides it's refreshing that a 22-year-old is playing a character older than himself, when so many 20-somethings are playing 16-year-olds on other shows.

While I might get worked up about a gay porn storyline on BROTHERS & SISTERS or UGLY BETTY, I certainly don't find it out of place on Wysteria Lane.  Mike's a murdering ex-con, Orson's an accessory to murder and an ex-con for attempted murder, Tom was a philanderer, Carlos was essentially a gangster, and Andrew was a lying, cheating homeless prostitute.  And those are the *good* guys!  Compared to all that, being a former gay porn star is positively trivial.

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bambino italiano's picture

Totally agree with AsA3DollarBill

This is Desperate Housewives we are talking about,  many characters here gay or straight are beyond redemption. Why should the new character be treated differently? I doubt that many of those who voted for Prop 8 watches this show. if they do and really think that these are real life gay behavior, no amount of education can bring them back to the reality. Andrew himself "stellar" past is not in the position to judge the surgeon boyfriend. Among the younger generation, gay or straight at some point either posted naked picture on the web or done worst. Again this is Wisteria lane, there's not many eye opening plot that the story line has not explore outside of making a porn version. There will always be Sarah Palin/Dan Quayle  mentality bunch out there, short of aversion therapy or institutionalize these people, I'm not about to worry what kind of message this sitcom is going to convey to our "children".
Tryst's picture

porn doctors...so what?

Didn't the blonde chick from Grey's anatomy also pose for racy photos to pay her way through medical school (I remember her telling her friends to go f*ck themselves with their student loans).  So what does it really matter if the hot doctor did porn...he's a doctor now!  hes a total sugar daddy for andrew!  amazing!

 BREE don't screw this up for andrew!!!