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TCA update: Ted Haggard and his wife still don't get it, but their daughter does


Ted, Gayle, Christy, and Marcus Haggard (Getty Images/Frederick M. Brown)

Speaking at the Television Critics Association January Tour in Los Angeles last Friday, Ted Haggard wanted to set the record straight about a few things. For instance, his sexuality can't be put in a box. No matter how many times reporters asked, Haggard refused to say if he was gay, straight or something in between though he did say, "I’m in a place where Gayle and I — I’ll speak for me — where I am thoroughly and completely satisfied with my relationship with my wife." He also feels really bad about getting Mike Jones involved in a "gay" relationship. And Haggard now "knows more about hatred than I’ve ever dreamed."

Haggard's wife wants you to know something about her husband as well — he was never, ever a hateful preacher. Said Gayle during the panel promoting HBO's The Trials of Ted Haggard (airing January 29th):

I think that Ted was characterized as being a hateful preacher, and I’ve heard just about every message he’s ever preached. I never heard Ted be a hateful person toward any group. He was very kind-hearted and understanding. For those who knew him well, they have been shocked at how he’s been characterized.

Maybe Ted wasn't hateful, but he certainly was bigoted. Read more after the jump.

Ted Haggard might never have been a Jerry Falwell blaming 9/11 on the gay community or a John Hagee claiming God wiped out New Orleans for tolerating us gays, but make no mistake, Haggard preached against homosexuality. He told his flock the Bible condemned homosexual activity and preached and counseled that gay people could and should change. He did and still does oppose same-sex marriage. Perhaps Haggard isn't a hateful man, but his words and actions as the leader of such an influential church did real and lasting damage to the LGBT community even if Ted and Gayle don't seem to get that. 

Ted Haggard being filmed for an earlier doc, Friends of God

However, in a classic example of the younger generation "getting" this issue where their elders don't, Haggard's daughter Christy caught my attention during the panel when she piped up at one point and said:

And one more thing. We were more judgmental than we are now, and people were hurt by us. And I know that a lot of people deserve a very sincere apology from our family because we are all the way we are for a reason. And the way I interpret scripture is so different from how other people do. So people do have the right — of course, we all do — to make their own decisions and be the people who they see themselves as being without any fear from how other people perceive them. That’s really important.

I was so struck by Ms. Haggard's words that I tracked her down after the panel to follow up. Asked how she reads scripture where it concerns gay people, Ms. Haggard said:

It tells me that everyone deserves love and that everyone deserves respect and that God is a huge advocate of free choice, of free will. He always wanted humankind to do what they wanted. He always gave us choice, from the beginning, from the Garden of Eden; he wanted us to choose what was right for us, what was wrong. And, you know, we deal with the consequences of whatever we choose, regardless. That’s how life works. And so, you know, each man and woman for themselves will see.

Asked whether gay people deserve all civil rights including marriage, Ms. Haggard said:

I believe every human being should live and work under the exact same rights. As a human being. Everyone should have the freedom to live the lives they believe are right.

Now that's a religious point of view I can get along with. 

The Trials of Ted Haggard was directed by filmmaker Alexandra Pelosi, whose documentary Friends of God also featured Haggard, pre-scandal.

Crabby Lioness's picture

Yay for Christy.

With young people like her, there may be hope for her Church yet.
Jonathan's picture

The wrong target

Accusing people like Ted Haggard, or even Jerry Falwell, of hatred is letting them off lightly. I could not possibly care less whether Ted Haggard likes me, hates me or doesn't give a good g-ddamn whether I exist.

What he has to be held accountable for is using his pulpit as a bullhorn to oppose the legitimate quest for political and social  justice for his fellow citizens.

I don't care if he's gay, straight or into bestiality. The point is that he's used the pulpit he was extraodinarily well paid to occupy to preach against the best interests of gay and lesbian Americans. He has apologies to make, but "hate" is the least of his crimes.

Nukely's picture

Thanks for tracking her down on that

I have been thinking about those same points lately. How can a christian justify, like so many do, trying to control my life and my choices when the Bible talks about our freedom to choose? "He always gave us choice, from the beginning, from the Garden of Eden" is so well put.

What I despise about christianity is the fascist element of groups like the evangelicals and the Catholics who seem to believe God made a huge mistake in giving us free will. It isn't just the hypocrisy, but that they hold themselves above God.

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And I have no respect for Haggard as now he is skirting around the issue of what his orientation is and whether his orientation is genetic (as first rumored that he believed) or life style choice as the Dominionists espouse. As such he is an Auntie Tom of the first order. Perhaps that is the type of real hate he says he has experienced.

As far as being a hater?

  • Ted Haggard was president of the National Association of Evangelicals, as a spokesman he may have keep his statements low key.
  • Haggard was a chief supporter of a Colorado Anti-Marriage Amendment.
  • He has aligned himself with fellow Dominionists of the Traditional Values Coalition (The TVC actually got its start by opposing prop 6.) and the Southern Poverty Law Center formally considers it a hate group on the same ranking as the Ku Klux Klan or neo-Nazi groups.
  • Haggard was 'cured' of homosexuality in 2007 And was given a clean bill of health: "He is completely heterosexual," (rev Tim) Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."
  • His "restoration" is being overseen by the Focus on the Family ministry.
  • He blamed what happened on being molested at age seven. Basically "the Devil made me do it." And now seems to be playing the role of the shameful, contrite reformed sinner and martyr.

 

Sonya's picture

All I can think of when I hear that name....

....is if the rest of you have seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ

 

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