Annie Proulx lays the smackdown on overzealous "Brokeback Mountain" fans
A few years back, Brokeback Mountain was all the rage, doing record-breaking box office for a gay-themed movie, winning countless awards (although, controversially, not that Best Picture Oscar), and finally showcasing the true talent of the late Heath Ledger, who had previously been squandering them on teen movies and horror genre fare.
However, after hearing the recent statements from author Annie Proulx on the fan-fiction she receives, it sounds as if she may want to take a tire iron to all those aspiring writers. In a interview with the Washington Post's Bob Hughes to promote her newest short-story collection Fine the Way It Is (snap!), Proulx describes the Brokeback Mountain phenomenon as ”the source of constant irritation in my private life”, and then proceeds (as only a writer can do) to lay the verbal smackdown on the “ghastly manuscripts and pornish rewrites” she is sent by overzealous fans who dare attempt to extend the story. While these two quotes are snarky enough, they don’t do the deliciousness of the full response justice, so I’ve included it here for you:
There you have it, folks. In laymen’s terms, stay away from the woman’s intellectual property. Or, if you suddenly find yourself consumed with the burning desire to continue the story of Ennis and his ill-fated Jack, send it to one of the 3,526 Brokeback Mountain fan-fiction sites, start a writing group, read it to your boyfriend in bed, but for the love of God, don’t send it to her. She might not like it. Submitted by on Thu, 2008-09-18 08:52. Press AnnieSubmitted by
stan01 (5 points) (1 post) on Sat, 2008-09-20 10:26.I like Annie but you're right, she bitches and moans a lot when the cameras are trained on her. Most of her stories about Wyoming are pretty dismal and depressing, but it's intentional. There can be no happy endings in Ms. Proulx' Wyoming reality, that's just not her angle. As far as "intellectual property" I'd say it was fair use. Fan fic writers are not marketing Proulx' characters; most all of them give attribution to her as 'owner' (moaner) at the outset. As I see it, Proulx has no standing to refer to explicit fan-fic as "pornish" as her Brokeback story is insensitive in certain places and downright vulgar in others. As one commenter wrote, some of the fan fiction on the 'Net is actually BETTER than the original story, i.e., more clever, more sensitive, more tasteful... Seriously, how on earth could we expect Proulx, a "Pulitzer Prize" winner for godsake, to acknowledge that someone has done a better job than she has?
LOL, people are actuallySubmitted by
Gabrielle (590 points) (137 posts) on Fri, 2008-09-19 00:16.LOL, people are actually sending her their Brokeback pornfics?!
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LoTr1985 (300 points) (63 posts) on Fri, 2008-09-19 01:00....I think a lot of writers are pretty grumpy people. If you ever read Stephen King in EW, he sometimes comes across as pretty grumpy too. It's such a solitary profession sometimes so that doesn't surprise me and doesn't really annoy me that much either. I actually agree w/ him 98% of the time. It's good to see someone in the media just telling it like it is (or how he thinks it is). Gore Vidal is another one (there are thousands but those are the two that immediately pop into my head). I agree w/ most everyone in that it is absolutely ignorant to send fan fic to the original writer of the story. You have to be completely conceited and moronic to believe that a writer would want to read your 'fixing" on the story, especially if it's presented as such when it arrives. I don't blame her for being annoyed @ that part of it. I don't agree w/ Annie, however, that it somehow infringes on her intellectual property. Fan fic in its truest form is meant to be a tribute and I don't know any real fan fic writers who would dare think they could publish what they've written. It's for a community, not the reading public @ large. I don't know one single fan fic writer who takes $ for their stories so how exactly is this infringing on Annie's property? I think she should also keep in mind that this story affected some people on an incredibly deep level, seeing their own stories in Ennis and Jack and took those characters to heart. They certainly don't see them as "intellectual property" and it's a bit disappointing that she refers to it as such. And Annie is obviously not aware that most of the true fan fic out there is actually written by women so her barrage of comments are somewhat misleading. Having said that, there was something about Annie's choice of words that made her appear almost a bit ungrateful and dismissive, as if BBM and its subsequent success are cramping her style. I have read her entire collection of stories about Wyoming that BBM came from and I, and everyone else in my fiction writing class, were groaning out loud. It was horrible and nearly impossible to get through. Gonzo would be a word that comes to mind. BBM stood out like a jewel and you wouldn't have known it was from the same author if you just read the stories w/out knowing who had written them. It's that different. Although I agreed w/ her assessment of why Crash won the AA (heard too often that some ppl just refused to watch the screeners...Crash if very CA specific and deals w/ a topic Hollywood thinks it's great @ telling which is racism and bigotry, and the power players in Hollywood are not as liberal as everyone would like to think...I'm talking about the middle-aged, older white guys who control the $), I didn't agree w/ the way she lashed out about it. She certainly could have mentioned her surprise w/out sounding like a sore loser. Writers? Grumpy?Submitted by
Oh, if you knew the way we talk in private! In our defense, it's a really, really, really, really, really, really tough business, and the amount of crap that gets thrown at us is just incredible (I compare it to my job at AfterElton, and i just laugh, because writing for the internet is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much easier, in terms of pay, rewards, ego-stroking, etc.). There is a REASON why most writers drink--the system literally drives you a little insane. But all that said, I still think it's tacky to seem ungrateful in public, or to take success for granted. Hey, we get paid to do what most people dream of doing, and that really should (and does, for me) make all the rest of the crap okay.
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Psionycx (7896 points) (1602 posts) on Fri, 2008-09-19 01:55.It's something of an inconvenient truth that characters in literature are never fixed and will be taken up by others and changed over time. Granted, this typically occurs after the death of the author. But it's now quite common for various fictional characters and worlds to be picked up by others and reused or expanded upon even in the world of published fiction. The worlds of writers like Frank Herbert and Marion Zimmer Bradley have been continued in published works by other authors after their deaths. This is nothing new. The Roman poet Virgil basically wrote his Aeneid as a sequel to the much older works of Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey, which are themselves believed to have derived from oral traditions dating to before Homer's own time. Likewise, the familiar legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table are actually a whole genre of myths that were developed over the course of centuries. Shakespeare both used historical and legendary characters himself, and in turn his characters have been used by others since. What is this but institutionalized fan fiction? True, the cycle is much shorter these days as more people are literate and the internet enables the mass distribution of content in virtually no time. But in a real way notions of "intellectual property" have never truly existed in storytelling. Throughout human history stories, once told, have passed into the public realm where others retell them, adapt them or update them. Even if Proulx could stamp out fan fiction in her lifetime it would be delusional to believe that any such effort would be eternal. Extrapolations of any good piece of writing are inevitable. Of course, she may just be irritable because Brokeback eclipses everything else she has done. It can be very frustrating for an artist to find that a single piece of work comes to define them. What seems to them to be a self-contained piece, whole and complete, takes on a life of it's own in defiance of their wishes and may distract from other works they would like to see held in similar regard, but which are not. bunching AnnieSubmitted by
Nukely (3426 points) (1195 posts) on Fri, 2008-09-19 10:38.I doubt very much that fans told her they had fixed her story except for implying it with their many rewrites of the ending. Fanfic is the sincerest form of flattery, and it's too bad Prouix doesn't get it.
But I do have a hard time reading most fan fic; it's like listening to a child playing with his toys, "Jack goes up the hill and he's falling, Help me Ennis. Oh jack, I can fix this. Gitty up." It tends to be plotless. But the main reason I skip fanfic is that I have a huge pile of unread books I'd rather indulge in. What's the big deal? Fans make pencil sketches of their favorite characters and send them to the stars, too, though I suppose it would be disturbing for William Shatner to receive crude drawings of himself and Leonard Nimoy going at it. If he did, he isn't mentioning it to the press, but perhaps pasting them into a scrapbook to show friends. Still, it's rude to send sexual material to someone you don't know. That's probably what has Annies undies in bunch.
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giovannif7 (1684 points) (355 posts) on Fri, 2008-09-19 18:01.to reading some Brokeback fanfic after seeing the film, in an attempt to alleviate some of the sadness that I couldn't seem to shake. The only story that I felt did justice to the characters was Human Nature by MadLori over at FanFiction.net. It's not a sequel, more of a longer alternate-universe tale of what could have been. I'm sure that Proulx would hate it, but it did give me some sense of comfort.
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The film also captured the minds of many who seem to have taken its ambiguous ending as a starting point for a great deal of fan-fiction. Brokeback slash fic can be seen all over the internet,and ranges from heartwarming (Jack returns to Ennis and they live happily
ever after, awwwww) to sensual (extended and, um, detailed descriptions of their many trysts at that mountain).








It's your baby, Annie --
Don't leave it crying in my arms.
What is Brokeback Mountain if not slash?
You Brokeback it you pay for it!
Wah! back at you
I don't even undertand what that means.
"I'm not gay but..."
In my experience of reading quite a bit of all types of slash fiction, I can tell you most of it is written by straight women. They are who pushed Brokeback Mountain to more than $80 million in the US, not gay men.
I went to see the film in a quite large and crowded theater, and most of the people there were middle-aged hetero couples. Trust me, these were not gay men and their fag hags. When the movie was over and the lights came up, all the men looked like they were waking up from a two hour nap and all the women were crying.
Straight women are also who made Queer As Folk such a hit, and at least half the Nuke fans are married women with children. It is a well accepted fact straight men loving seeing two women get it on, but straight women seem to like seeing two men going at it just as much.
You go girl!!!
Fanfic and Slash
Fanfic and slash are now established parts of audience culture across the media spectrum. Their existence is inevitable and inescapable in the age of the internet.
That said, I have to wonder what kind of pathetic personality feels compelled to actually send their writings to the original creator. Is it part of some desperate quest for approval and validation? Or a desire to tell the creator that they got the story "wrong" and offer up a "fix"? I can see why Proulx would find it annoying.
The fun of fan fiction and slash has always been that it is community-driven, non-canon and specifically explores what wasn't in the original source material. It's not about publication, winning kudos from the real creator or gaining fame and fortune.
Fanfic and Slash Community
I am fairly active in the Fanfic and Slash communities, I read and very very rarely write(Okay write. then look at it, toss it, rewrite, think about how godawful it is, toss it, and so in in fairly circular fashion.)
I don't think there is anything wrong with Slash or Fanfic in general. And as anybody knows immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
But I definitly agree with you here, fan fic and slash is about the fun and the community and the non-canon exploration. Its something that some people in the community don't get. And then you get stupid people who will ambush authors or celebrities with slash or fan fiction. And then it gets into murky waters, its especially murky when you don't know how said actors or creator will react, it can lead to lawsuits and stuff. And this may have nothing to do with the personal opinion of said creator or celebrity.
But its certainly the ultimate in arrogence to send your fan fic to an author and try to say that yours is better that the original and here is how you would have done it. (Doesn't matter whether you are right about it being better or not by the way,) Not only is it incredibly rude but it makes the rest of us fan fic lovers and writers look bad by association..
Who would be crazy enough to
Fanfic
I agree there. Sending it to the original writer in not very smart. As a writer you tell your story as you see it. It is your book, your 'child'. So I can imagine her being annoyed with it that others deem it necessary to correct her work.
I think I'd be terrified if any of the original creators would know my fanfic exists... :D
I think Annie has an anger management problem
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