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Poll: "Desperate Housewives" is returning soon. Do you care?


Looks like Bob (Tuc Watkins) and Lee (Kevin Rahm) are still on speaking terms...

The fifth season of Desperate Housewives premieres on ABC September 28th, and there's already lots of buzz about the new "daring" time warp gimmick ... but will it be enough to salvage the series?

The general consensus is that the first and third seasons were good, and the second and fourth seasons were lousy (hey, it's the reverse Star Trek movie curse!). I did watch the first season, and enjoyed it, but I only watched it occasionally after that until last season, and despite the inclusion of the fab Dana Delaney and the hot Nathan Fillion, I thought it was just too silly and way over the top.

Let's face it, this show has jumped the shark so many times it's hard to pick just one. The whole Alfre Woodard storyline, the tornado (a groaner of a sweeps gimmick) ... and has every character murdered someone in their past?

And then there's the gay couple, Bob and Lee. When they weren't being ignored (which was most of the time), they were used as comic relief (remember the hideous fountain in the front yard?).

But things may be looking up this season.

Teri Hatcher and Gale Harold

As you no doubt have heard by now, there will be two major changes in store this season. The show is moving forward in time five years, which does offer a lot of juicy dramatic and comedic possibilities. In the final scene of last season's finale, we got a brief glimpse of what to expect, including the spoiled Gabrielle now saddled with two screaming kids, and Bree now a successful media star being managed by her gay son Andrew.

We also see Susan in a new relationship, with a character played by Gale Harold.

After the break, you can see some possible spoilers about Gale's character, and take our Desperate Housewives poll. Do you think this shakeup will help rejuvenate the show? Let us know!

According to Televisionista, Gale's character is named Jackson, and he and Susan will try to keep their relationship hidden.

 

"The storylines will deal with Jackson's and Susan's relationship and how it affects her raising her son MJ as well as Mike trying to be involved in his son's life. Jackson will have a secret of his own."

 

So what do you think? Is all of this enough to get you watching every week, or would you have other ideas to get the show back on track? Take our poll and let us know!

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  • Whitetee's picture

    I will keep an eye on

    I will keep an eye on it,but definitely not gonna watch every episode closely.I`m sure if anything good(& gay) going on,you guys would let me know.;-)

    Also,it`s just me,or the way Gale Harold acts in the preview clips,are just plain awful?Hasn`t his acting improved one bit,since QAF:US ended?What about that ridiculous hair cut(which is the same that he had on QAF:US)?What was the hair stylist thinking?

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    ckelle's picture

    I'm with you on his acting.

    I'm with you on his acting. he sticks out like a mangled toe in the previews. and have you seen his photos from the desperate housewives promo photos? he isn't aging well and a new hair do isn't going to help.
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    Jack's picture

    Harold's appeal

    It will be interesting to see how Harold plays with the Desperate Housewives audience.  He has loyal "Queer as Folk" fans but he wasn’t exactly a big hit on Fox’s "Vanished" or in the off Broadway play, "Suddenly Last Summer."  Personally, I think his looks and acting ability are way overrated.
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    ckelle's picture

    he has a loyal following

    he has a loyal following bcause of his looks but ask any fan and they dont have much to say for his acting in much else other than in queerasf. that says alot.

     

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    ducdebrabant's picture

    Don't know who you've been talking to, but ...

    Well, you couldn't be more wrong about that.  His looks don't hurt, but he doesn't have such a devoted fanbase just because he's pretty.  The fact is that a lot of his work isn't widely known. 

    Some of his best acting is in indie films like "Wake," "Particles of Truth" and "The Unseen."  I'm particularly blown away by his performance as drug-addicted rocker Geoff Beddoes in a two episode arc on the Showtime series "Street Time." 

    He's a very touching Prince Charming with family issues (the character is based on JFK Jr.) in "Falling for Grace," which I was lucky enough to see at a film festival, but which keeps bopping around in various theatrical engagements prior to its inevitable DVD release. 

    He was excellent as Wyatt Earp on "Deadwood" but not a lot of people remember the performance because David Milch's take on Earp was that he wasn't that important in Deadwood and wasn't there long. 

    Even on that fiasco "Vanished," where the direction and writing were extremely flat, he did some excellent acting.  Just about everybody was off-stride a little on that show, but his scenes with Yara Martinez were particularly good. 

    I'm sure there are a lot of people who know little of his work but won't let that keep them from trashing him.  On the other hand, there are people around the world who have made it their business to seek his work out, and we know better.  In fact, some people flew to New York from as far away as Britain, Japan and New Zealand to see him in a play.  They'll beg to differ with you.

    There are a lot of beautiful actors in the world, but Gale Harold is one of the most emotionally complex, layered, subtle, interior and legible actors alive.  When the material permits, he is transfixing and indelible.  Luckily, a lot of the material has permitted.

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    Jack's picture

    His acting

    They replaced him and only him on "Vanished" because the test audience didn't like him, or that's what I heard.  What didn't they like?  I assume it was his acting.  Eddie Cibrian looked the part more than Harold did but I guess it was too late to save the show by the time they hired him. 

    If I remember correctly, Yara was in "Vanished" for a total of about four minutes.  Gale must have interacted with her for all of two of them.  

    If people flew from that far away to see him in that play I feel sorry for them because the reviews were not that good, at least not his.  I can only assume they were thinking with something other than their heads.

    If he's  that complex and subtle and layered I've yet to see it.  

    Oh well, maybe comedy will turn out to be his thing.  I'll check it out but since I'm not a fan of the show or Harold's, I probably won't stick around.

     

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    ducdebrabant's picture

    Many of us have seen it.

    I saw him twice in "Suddenly, Last Summer," early and late in the run.  The first time he was reasonably good, the second time quite good. 

    I infer that you don't know the play.  I've known it for years.  It isn't very long (it was originally part of a double bill) and the part of Cukrowicz, which was built up for Montgomery Clift in the movie, is a notoriously thin one -- basically a device.  He's only there to elicit information and emotions from the female stars.  I doubt if it would be possible to really dominate in it on stage.  Ben Brantley reviewed it for the Times, and he basically said as much.

    Even so, the fans were far from disappointed.  On his first entrance, a gasp would go up (by all accounts, every night, but definitely when I attended).  He got very enthusiastic applause at the end, and every night a line of people waited for him at the stage door.  Don't feel sorry for the people who came all that way, because I've read some of their lengthy and enthusiastic accounts of the experience and they wouldn't trade it for the world.

    That leaves "Vanished" -- which it seems you actually saw.  I too heard the rumor about focus groups, but it is also true that the minute he left, the audience plummeted.  Between the last show on which he appeared and the next one starring Cibrian, two million viewers departed.  Another million left after Cibrian's first appearance, in which Gale appeared on a slab.  The show aired one or two more times (the audience was in freefall) before it was yanked.  Although a move to Friday night didn't help, the show did worse than "Friday Night Smackdown" and worse than the first thing that replaced it the next week -- an old Jim Carrey movie.

    Whatever Fox thought it was doing, it was stupid.  Presumably Eddie Cibrian, Gale's replacement, did test better (if that's the real reason).  So much for the value of test audiences.  There was a worldwide web outcry over Gale's being written out.  Fox's message boards for the show were on fire with outrage. 

    The real trouble wasn't with Gale Harold, it was with the writing and direction.  Only Gale and Rebecca Gayheart had any good moments.  Ming Na, John Allen Nelson, Esai Morales, Penelope Ann Miller -- none of these people were at their best.  The fact that it wasn't a wholesale massacre definitely doesn't make the show's problems Gale Harold's fault.

    If you say Eddie Cibrian "looked the Part," okay, but perhaps I should remind you that he wasn't playing the same part.  He was playing a different character written very differently.  For example, he was allowed to be sexy.  Gale Harold was given an unflattering wardrobe and no female interest other than Martinez (who was on the show much too little, you're right).  Cibrian's very first scene involved Gayheart letting herself into his apartment and him ripping off his shirt.

    They had a wonderful asset in Harold and they wasted him.  They gave him a lot of dull procedural dialogue and a lot running to do, and submerged the x-factor of one of the sexiest men alive.  Josh Berman wasn't interested in any of the actors, or in acting, but in his convoluted plot and a lot of flashing lights and CGI-enhanced boards and gadgets. 

    Certainly Cibrian has never been celebrated for his acting.  He has a handsome face, a beautiful body, and one expression.  He wore it when Gayheart came on to him, he wore it when he informed his old Quantico roommate that he was being removed from the case, and he wore it when he "mourned" the man's death.

    Gale was well out of that disaster, and now he's going to be on a show with more than double the audience of "Vanished" on its best night.  I hope Marc Cherry makes the most of him.  Gale can be funny if the situation is funny, but he's not a comedian and he probably can't squeeze comedy out of any old thing.  He's a method actor, and he seems to approach it like any other kind of reality.  He'll internalize it as much as he can and become the man in the funny situation.  It looks like we have a lot of humor in the way Susan forces him to hide and sneak around, and I'm sure we won't see any shtick from him.  He'll just be that guy.

    At least they're letting him be sexy, and maybe they'll let him be much more.  Once in awhile, "Particles of Truth" is on Sundance or "The Unseen" is on BET.  I hope you catch one of them.  I think you might be surprised.

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    Jack's picture

    I guess we will see

    I would let you know what I think of him in "Desperate Housewives" but I suppose this topic  will be closed by then.   I imagine those who are enamoured of him now will probably be just as enamoured after his next performance regardless of how he does and those who are not...well, I'll try to give him a chance. 
    ducdebrabant's picture

    Thank you

    Please do.  This topic may be closed, but there may be another one that's apropos.  This site promised us an interview with him (already conducted but not written up) right after the Television Critics Association convention in L.A. a few weeks ago, but they've never come through with it.  Maybe they'll print it after the season premiere.
    ducdebrabant's picture

    Gale's acting

    I think he looks and sounds great in the trailers, and in any case they give us very little to go on.  I've only heard a couple of lines from him in any trailer -- "Are you ever going to let me stay all night?" and "I can't be your dirty little secret" -- and  I loved the way he delivered the latter.  It could have been confrontational, but it was delivered as loveplay -- he meant it but he wasn't looking for a fight.  Also, they seem to be letting him use his Georgia accent, which I like.

    The day people stop complaining about his hair, the world will end.  Even his biggest fans argue about it, so I can't be surprised when his haters criticize it too.  Another sign of the end of the world will be when a certain contingent on AfterElton stop consigning him to the lowest circle of every damned thing.  You'd think the man had stolen their lunch money or something.

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    ducdebrabant's picture

    Don't Cry for Desperate Housewives, Argentina

    I don't know how the "general consensus" was gauged for this piece, but anybody's entitled to to feel the series has jumped the shark if he wants to.  However, I doubt that ABC is worried about "salvaging" a series which surpassed CSI last season to become the highest rated scripted series in the world.  It's true that DH hasn't recaptured its peak audience (pre writers' strike) of 20 or so million (at least not consistently) but nothing else has recaptured its entire pre writers strike audience either.  The show is operating in a different atmosphere, but there's nothing wrong with its operation.  If the audience had hated the show last season, they'd never have made Dana Delany a regular and increased the core housewives by one.

    And personally, I think Gale Harold will bring a lot of excitement.  The day after the season finale, when he made his shocker 8 second appearance, his name was one of the top 20 Google search terms worldwide.

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    I meant "salvaging" as in creatively.

    Yes, it's still a ratings hit, but so is "Dancing with the Stars".
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    ducdebrabant's picture

    Oh, I got that

    I understood your point, but I don't think they're going to do a lot of fixing of "Dancing with the Stars" anytime soon either.  The five year jump is Marc Cherry's way of freshening things up from his own point of view, but most people weren't complaining.  I don't think the fondness for the show felt by 18 or so million people a week (in the United States alone) is a negligible factor compared to your own ill opinion.  We're all entitled to our likes and dislikes, but "jumping the shark" is usually a prologue to a collapse in a show's ratings.  There's no consensus among the public, it would seem from the available evidence, that the show needs rescuing.
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    With the exception of the post strike episodes, I though that ..

    the show rocked as they brought the woman back to the hood and did an awesome job of including the older housewives for more than punchlines. I actually miss old Ida and love the lady who gives Lynette a piece of reality when her character gets annoying.

    I would actually disagree with the comment about the general consensus as I think that the critics loved seasons 1 and 4, while hating 2 and accepting that 3 might serve as the new-non water-cooler show that is good but can never recapture the voice of the first season. I am not relying on ratings for that determinant but simply commentary and of course my take. The ratings are still there as pointed out quite clearly by the above poster, but I am focusing on what is on the screen and how enjoyable it is/was.

    From a perspective of how they used their gay characters that is another story, as they've been grossly underused which is a shame as the show not only has an out gay creator, but its writing staff comes from many funny shows that had gay sensibilities.

    I think that the show needs to continue to mine its humor without relying too heavily on discardable stories. All they need to do (I think) is have one or two mysteries, get the ladies in the same scenes as often as possible (without their hubbies), and focus on the hood.

    Am I pumped for this show to return? Not really, but I am not pumped for any show but Lost as the year-round scheduling produces more than enough material so that I am actually trying to figure out which shows will need to go.

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    ducdebrabant's picture

    The gay couple

    I agree about the use of the gay characters.  Occasionally it's been fun, but it has often struck the wrong note with me.  I thought Lee was gratuitously rude to Susan in the beginning, whether she really made those cookies (or whatever they were) or not.  She was trying to be nice.  And I don't know why the guys should immediately lend themselves to Gaby's scheme of exposing her roomer as a prostitute.  They didn't owe her anything, and after Gaby started kicking and abusing Lee that should have ended any friendship they had.  Are they every woman's Ethel Mertz, just because they're gay?  I particularly regret that the writers haven't used Tuc Watkins better, because he's a wonderful actor.

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    cadreaming's picture

    I'll be there for Gale

    I'm happy Gale is back in something I can watch. He's enough to make me get into DH, and it'll be nice to have a 'sunnier' show on my list of TV viewings.

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    ckelle's picture

    I'm rly looking forward to

    I'm rly looking forward to the Housewives' return, but not before I mourn the loss of Adam Mayfair.  Can't really say he was the best character on the show, but he was real interesting.  He fit in real well on the show.
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    Adam

    I forgot what happened with him at the end of the season.  Is he definitely gone?  If he is, I think Nathan Fillion is probably just as happy to leave.  The men aren't really the focus, and he may have a better offer.

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    ckelle's picture

    yeah, Adam just kind of

    yeah, Adam just kind of left at the end of season4.  His pretty face bruised and all. :(

    Nathan's currently working on a new series he himself is starring in. Called Castle.  He's the best. 

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    Actually, the reason I probably won't watch this season...

    ...is the addition of Harold to the cast.
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    Joseph's picture

    I won't be watching either...

    ...I've gradually lost interest in the show--I didn't even bother to watch last season's finale--but the addition of the least talented, most uncharasmatic actor in the history of the world totally turns me off. I'd rather endure a root canal than watch Gale Harold try to act.

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    Uh huh

    I'm going way out on a limb here and saying that gay men who call Mr. Harold 'the least talented, most uncharasmatic[sic] actor in the country" just have issues with Brian Kinney.  There are a lot of actors in this country, and "Desperate Housewives" could have found a much less talented or charismatic actor if they'd really looked hard for one.  And they pay well.
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    Joseph's picture

    Oh, trust me...

    ...I once watched a high school kid stumble and fumble his way through his part as John Proctor in The Crucible and he was vastly more interesting and entertaining than anything Gale Harold has done.

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    Miss Otis Regrets

    These seem to be just troll posts, only here to piss people off.  I'm not bothering with them anymore.  And no, I'm not "checking out your blog."  If you have nothing intelligent to say here, it's hardly going to lure me to someplace you can say nothing at greater length.  This stuff about children acting better is like those "my ten year old kid can paint better than that" comments about Picasso.  They say plenty about the person who says them, nothing about the subject.
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    I think I'm on the only

    I think I'm on the only person who liked the "darker" second second. Meanwhile, the last two seasons have kinda left me cold. But when this show was good (as in the first season), it was really, really good! The problem is, I don't think satire lends itself to an ongoing series. You have to keep "topping" yourself, which makes things seem ridiculous. And then, yeah, eventually everyone ends up a murderer-cheater-acoholic-or-cancer-victim. Might be time to stick a fork in it, alas.

     

     

     

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    Satire is hard to keep up, but I only see it an en entree......

    to what is in essence a traditional night time soap. Satire is such a staple for so many shows (Gossip Girl, Ugly Betty, Entourage, and even the new 90210) and my feeling is that any that succeed do so because they manage to humanize even a Bree character and make you care about what happens in her life. As a total side-bar, I think that the show lost one of its greatest male assets when they killed off Bree's husband.

    I think that the mistake many show-runners and writers make is to assume that the audience wants something bigger and more shocking rather than focusing on a few umbrella story-lines that give liked faces a few good quips for stand-alone appeal, a nice surprise or two, and pacing the serialized portion in a way that lets you in and keeps you interested in getting another morsel depending on the formula.

    I think that the show has been less than perfect, there are characters that I could do without, and has been at its weakest when lets the ladies drift apart or takes the easy route of trying to top itself rather than remembering what elements made it fun in the first place so that they can mine the past with enough changes for it to get a back to school feeling. It does not have to feel like Columbine.

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    My problem

    with the show was summed up by a TWoP recapper who noted that, in the second season, DH became the new Love Boat -- plenty of guest stars who show up and have no lasting effect on the characters, who play out the same stories again and again. At the end of the third season, I realized the only characters I was interested in were the Van De Kamp/Hodge families -- when Marcia Cross was written out temporarily, I couldn't make it through an episode.

    I think the problem for me is that the satire is really repetitive and I don't feel like I'm getting to know these characters any better. A lot of shows (the Golden Girls for example) had its formulas, but we still got to see the characters develop. Even something as significant as meeting Lynette's parents wasn't able to make me feel like I understood her better.
    ducdebrabant's picture

    Yes, but ...

    Apparently the 5 year jump is meant to show the characters in very different circumstances, with flashbacks to tell us how they got there.  That may answer some of your objections, but I'm not sure. 

    I think a lot of the audience feel they already understand the characters, and that they will always be consistent, no matter what.  And they like that. 

    When a John Slattery comes on, it's consistent with everything we know about Gaby that she will marry him for his money, that she will cheat on him, and that she'll even try to kill him if that's the only way to extricate herself from a dangerous situation. 

    The question is how all this will play out with an antagonist who is dangerous and unpredictable. 

    The core audience doesn't want Slattery to change Gaby -- it just wants him to be a worthy adversary.  Same with all of the women -- they just want to say "Oh that Bree, she'll never change."  Knowing all her secrets and being able to predict her behavior is the game the audience plays on this show. 

    A teen pregnancy isn't meant to make Bree re-evaluate her judgmental and conformist nature, to woman up and champion her daughter.  The question is, how can Bree deal with this difficult situation and not change -- how she can manage to reconcile it and incorporate it into her life and still be the same hypocritical and rigid Bree.

    The answer may be something as outlandish as a fake pregnancy.  That's the fun of the show.  These women are always true to their own faults.

    So the very things you dislike may be the very selling points Marc Cherry will never significantly alter.  The more they change the more they stay the same.  Give them cancer, send them away, bring them back, marry them, divorce them, they'll always be the same women.

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    In the end

    the show is too repetitive for me. You can do stories that follow the same formula that don't have that kind of "these people never learn" (exception: Bree), Melrose Place managed that for a little while. The way things have been with Lynette, Gabby and Susan, their show is practically a sitcom -- things end up back where they were and nothing is learned.
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    I will watch because of Gale

    Gale Harold is the only reason I'll return to watch Desperate Housewives after I stopped watching the show after season 1. I don't necessarily like the 5 sec of him I saw in the season 4 finale but I quite like the few preview clips of him with Teri Hatcher that I saw on youtube. I only hope although men are not the center of the show, the producers and writers can use the best of him and can give him enough material to act upon. He might not be THE BEST actor but he is a very good actor whose career I'd like to follow and a special actor in my heart.
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    GALE Makes it Must See

    Never seen DH. Couldn't care less about this show before. REALLY don't care about any of the housewives at all, (well, Felicity Huffman was good in Transamerica.) The ONLY reason I'll tune in is to see GALE.

    I think I must have been watching a different QAF than a few of you. GALE HAROLD is a terrific actor. Highly recommend his indie feature THE UNSEEN. Incredibly moving performance.

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    poof's picture

    Ya'll keep forgetting..

    the show is about the 5 women.  Even Edie isn't really one of the main storylines most of the time. The rest of the cast are merely sub charactors and are needed otherwise, what would the women have to do except sit on the porch drinking and stareing at each other? Obviously, TPTB want to keep the show around. It must be still making money for the network othewise, it would have cancelled seasons ago.
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    Edie soooo freaking deserves

    Edie soooo freaking deserves the main storyline every episode.  I'm glad she and her new hubby will have the main mystery for season 5.  Will be watching for them.
    ducdebrabant's picture

    Good for Fillion

    He got what he needed out of it, and I hope he takes his new fans with him to his new show.  That's what I'm hoping will happen to Harold as well.

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    The handsome Mr. Harold

    Gale Harold is the reason I  started watching Desperate Housewives at the end of last season. He's a great actor & not exactly hard on the eyes. The clips look fun and sexy to me. I enjoyed the few episodes I saw & am looking forward to the new season.

     

    Say, weren't you going to post a new Gale Harold interview?

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    snicks wrote: I have

    snicks wrote:

    I have never seen an episode of DH but I am a fan of Gale Harold so I will be tuning in when it comes to Australia. Obviously I will be spoiled because of the message boards. I think he is a wonderful actor and should bring some interesting dynamics to the series. It is good for me as it starts 5 years forward so I do not have to work out what's going too much cheers all 


    Looks like Bob (Tuc Watkins) and Lee (Kevin Rahm) are still on speaking terms...

    The fifth season of Desperate Housewives premieres on ABC September 28th, and there's already lots of buzz about the new "daring" time warp gimmick ... but will it be enough to salvage the series?

    The general consensus is that the first and third seasons were good, and the second and fourth seasons were lousy (hey, it's the reverse Star Trek movie curse!). I did watch the first season, and enjoyed it, but I only watched it occasionally after that until last season, and despite the inclusion of the fab Dana Delaney and the hot Nathan Fillion, I thought it was just too silly and way over the top.

    Let's face it, this show has jumped the shark so many times it's hard to pick just one. The whole Alfre Woodard storyline, the tornado (a groaner of a sweeps gimmick) ... and has every character murdered someone in their past?

    And then there's the gay couple, Bob and Lee. When they weren't being ignored (which was most of the time), they were used as comic relief (remember the hideous fountain in the front yard?).

    But things may be looking up this season.

    Teri Hatcher and Gale Harold

    As you no doubt have heard by now, there will be two major changes in store this season. The show is moving forward in time five years, which does offer a lot of juicy dramatic and comedic possibilities. In the final scene of last season's finale, we got a brief glimpse of what to expect, including the spoiled Gabrielle now saddled with two screaming kids, and Bree now a successful media star being managed by her gay son Andrew.

    We also see Susan in a new relationship, with a character played by Gale Harold.

    After the break, you can see some possible spoilers about Gale's character, and take our Desperate Housewives poll. Do you think this shakeup will help rejuvenate the show? Let us know!

    According to Televisionista, Gale's character is named Jackson, and he and Susan will try to keep their relationship hidden.

     

    "The storylines will deal with Jackson's and Susan's relationship and how it affects her raising her son MJ as well as Mike trying to be involved in his son's life. Jackson will have a secret of his own."

     

    So what do you think? Is all of this enough to get you watching every week, or would you have other ideas to get the show back on track? Take our poll and let us know!

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    Speaking of Australia ..

    It amuses me that when "Vanished" was shown in Australia (after it was already cancelled in the U.S.), the broadcasters had to hurriedly switch it from a prime spot to a later one early in its run. 

    The show (with Harold) became so popular that they were worried about pissing off too large an audience when (a.) Graham Kelton died, and (b.) it left the air prematurely.  So they deliberately cut down their own audience for it. 

    This sort of dismay was worldwide, of course.  I read a columnist in a Johannesburg paper wondering why the hell they killed off "the dishy detective." I personally didn't care much for "Vanished" but at least Gale as Graham Kelton had a past and some personal issues (he was haunted by the death of a kidnapped boy in an operation that was taken out of his hands and botched by his superiors). 

    But Berman and his staff didn't know how to handle this.  They seem to have been committed to a fast pace, and they confused the audience by letting clues pile up while not revealing the meaning of clues they'd left before -- it was exasperating knowing nothing and then getting a lot more nothing to know.  Also, Berman kept falling back on his CSI experience, great global positioning graphics, CGI tracking shots along co-axial cables, all that.

    "Lost" has gotten away for years with keeping the audience bewildered about some of the show's bedrock elements, but the biggest strength of "Lost" has always been its fascinating characters -- and they are all fascinating.  The show has energetically explored their pasts, cleared up mysteries and misconceptions about them.  "Vanished" was "Lost" without characters.  Kelton was, for seven episodes, the only real exception.

    It's funny to criticize Gale for his acting when it quickly became obvious that acting was the least of the creator's concerns.  Gale certainly wasn't fired for not burning the boards up.  They'd have fired everybody, or given the actors something dimensional to say.  Or they'd have replaced him with an actor more impressive than Eddie Cibrian.

    When they killed Gale's character off they made sure that Cibrian's new character had no real history, no issues, nothing much to act.  It was modeling with lines (just what he's doing on "Ugly Betty" right now).  Berman clearly thought his convoluted plot was enough all by itself, and that dimensional characters would be a distraction -- so he killed off his only three-dimensional character. 

    By the same account that says Gale tested badly (with very young men, not with everybody) the focus group saw only the pilot.  The decision to replace the lead was made before the show even went on the air.  This is credible, because Cibrian was put under contract before the show aired (though not announced as Gale's replacement) and nothing was done to promote Gale personally. 

    But Gale's failure to connect with the youngest men was probably script-related.  It would have been an easy fix, in my opinion.  We could have seen him slug somebody, or seen women respond sexually to him.  Young men saw a tortured man lashing out at his co-workers, and that's all.  Nobody seemed to notice how handsome he was, and he did nothing physically impressive.  The creators preferred to persuade themselves that the leading actor, not their misuse of him, was the problem.

    Indeed, these fixes were put in place with Cibrian, but watching him slug people and watching Gayheart melt over him didn't help at that point.  It might have helped with Harold, if they'd simply reshot some of Berman's pilot.  Cibrian not only lost half the audience, he apparently did little for the young male demographic specifically.  They deserted the show in droves just like everybody else.

    There were still a few angry people at the end of the run who really had been interested only in the mystery, but there weren't enough of them.  Half the show's audience was apparently involved to some extent with Kelton's anger, his failed marriage (failed due to the pressures of his guilt) and inner struggle, and walked.

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    Gale Harold

    I find it amazing that so many want to strike out against Gale. Yes, the man is gorgeous, at 39, and his hair is unique, always was. It's a part of Gale and who he is. He has the looks, the voice, the 'eyes', the lips and the height that makes people, particular women, look, and do a *double* look. He looks good in long hair, scruffy hair, however he wants to wear it!  As for his acting ability................he made a 'true' believer of Many, Many folks,  that he was a gay man in 'love' with his blonde co-star, Randy Harrison. Actually they were both so convincing, that there are still sites and a fan base dedicated to both of them.  I would think that speaks quite highly of his acting ability! He also is unique in the roles he choses. I look forward to seeing him in DH, and know that he will bring *spice and excitement*, needed for we 'poor' mortal women! The man has talent, quit being jealous.

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    Jack's picture

    Jealous?

    It’s just personal opinion.  I generally like intelligent bookish looking men with glasses and also rugged men but Gale’s look not as much.  I’m sure I could mention some men that I find attractive and talented who other people would feel differently about but I wouldn’t think them jealous because of it.

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    Not everything is entirely subjective

    I don't think anybody is surprised when somebody isn't attracted to Gale Harold.  We all know that tastes differ.  What surprises me and many others is when they declare him ugly, completely uncharismatic, utterly untalented. 

    Some things aren't entirely subjective, you know.  Ugly men don't get the parts Gale gets, uncharismatic men don't have deeply devoted international fanbases, and untalented men don't get hired by people like Dick Wolf (Law & Order: SVU), Marc Cherry (Desperate Housewives) or David Milch (Deadwood). 

    It's not the negative reactions but their extreme nature that raises our eyebrows.  I do think a lot of it is jealousy, yes.  People who have such a personal, vitriolic, sweeping and unfair attitude towards him obviously have a very personal reason for it.

    And it's not as if his public behavior justifies it.  He's very private.  He's not a Scientologist or a party guy, hasn't slugged a paparazzi or run over anybody with his car or been in and out of rehab.  He's a liberal Democrat, but that's nothing unusual in the entertainment business.  If you hate him, really hate him, it can only be that you're projecting something onto him.

    Maybe they can't forgive him for playing Brian Kinney.  Some people hate Brian.  But for this attitude to pursue the actor whatever part he plays is extreme.  By all accounts he's just a serious actor with a Pentecostal background, a very accepting world view and a fondness for motorcycles.

    Just be fair to him, that's all I expect. 

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