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"Hollyoaks" video clip update: Farewell Camille (The Big One)

Well, this is it. Our second Hollyoaks Mega-post is the culmination of months of speculation, rumour, outrage, and anticipation. Sit back and enjoy the ride with us, and if you're a Kieron fan, grab a hankie.

The first of four clips opens with Kieron in a t-shirt and tight black shorts (thank you!), and John Paul ignoring a message from Craig.

The next morning there's a terrific scene in the kitchen with J.P., Myra, and Michaela that exemplifies what this show does so well: making us believe this is a real family. Michaela is hilarious, as she decides that J.P. should get back with Kieron because "Craig has a prune face." When Myra hears the name "Craig" she goes off on J.P. for throwing Kieron away on "a kid who runs off to Dublin just to get away from you."

On the other hand, Tina has some very sensible advice, too, when she tells him that he shouldn't marry someone just because he thinks he owes it to that person. Oh, Tina ... if this were the Jackson family, you'd definitely be Rebbie.

Myra visits Kieron to make sure he's okay, and tells him, "I'm starting to think of you as family, and I look out for my family." Unfortunately, Niall is standing right behind her when she says it. AWKWARD!

Kieron tells Myra he's about to meet with her son's foster mother, and when he does, he's in for a shock ... she looks uncannily like George Wendt in drag! (I know that sounds harsh, but she really does.) Oh, and he also finds out that Myra's long lost son is actually Niall.

Clip number two has Craul discussing Craig's decision to stick around, and he admits that while he was gone, he was shacked up with a girl, but it didn't last because he was still in love with J.P. (So ... is Craig in denial about being gay, or is he bisexual? Or is it a J.P.-exclusive thing?) And didn't we go through this same kind of stuff before Craig left?

Most of the clip, though, is about Kieron confronting Niall about the truth of his lineage. These scenes are extremely well played, and fraught with tension. I kept thinking, "Please, Kieron, don't take the beer if he offers" ... but of course he does. And we finally get back the real Kieron, the warm and compassionate person who just wants to do the right thing.

Join us after the break for the final two clips (which are spectacular), and take our poll on how well you think the storyline was handled. And the comments section is open, so feel free to bitch, cheer, and debate to your heart's content.

There's not much to say about the third clip except "WOW". Craig says he's a different person now, and he knows exactly what he wants, and it's J.P.

The rest of the clip is all Kieron and Niall, and it's wonderfully executed. Niall confesses to the now woozy Kieron all of the evil things he's done to the family, and Kieron realizes, too late, that he's in the midst of a monster. By the end, I felt like I had been put through the ringer.

The final clip is a hot mess, and manages to incorporate all these things:

Craig attacking J.P. like a face-hugger from Alien.
The best puke scene since Veronica Cartwright barfed up a million cherries in Witches of Eastwick.
Kieron suddenly gaining the power of retro-active astral projection.

So, what did you think? I was glad that they re-established Kieron's good character before they auf'd him (although the poison beer thing still irks me). J.P. is appropriately heartbroken and guiltridden, and this opens up so many possibilities for McQueen family histrionics. I can't wait til next week!

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  • Lily of the valley's picture

    beer

    [sigh]
    nothing of (all of) this would have happened if that priest would have been able to restrain himself from the beer. Someone should have shown Kieron the worst episode of buffy ever . Really good camera-work there around that beer can ;-)

    And marvellous acting all over the place

    Hats off to all of them, especially Barry Sloane (keep repeating myself there)

    Jake Hendriks said somewhere that they practiced the crucial scenes in their spare time and BOY, did that work out.  

    For some reason I didn't get (much) teary-eyed during the confession/dying scene - but very much so during Myra's last visit. Guess that's because I have a soft spot for the Kieron-Myra relationship
    [/sigh]

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    Kabir Altaf's picture

    McDean

    The chemistry between John Paul and Craig is so amazing... as soon as Craig arrives, JP forgets about everything else. He's been deluding himself all these months that he's in love with Kieran... and although he probably does love him in a way, it pales in comparison to the feelings he has for Craig

    Craig's speech (the one beginning I spent a whole year of my life trying to get over you) was awesome, gave me chills, especially the line "how can I move away from you when you're in here? (in my head)"... also reminded me of McDean Day... the same longing and total desperation.... I love Guy Burnet, he's my absolute favorite :)

    Niall's confession was amazing, scary but at the same time you felt pity for him because of his abandonment issues.  He's a very sick boy

    Sorry to see Kieron go like this, but bring on the McDean Sunset Ending!!!

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    Cadence's picture

    Why

    Craul was pretty disgusting to watch.  I thought Craig was suppossed to be more mature now, but as Snicks said, John Paul and Craig's scenes looked like a rehash of every scene that they had last year. Nothing has changed for them, they still have a sex fueled toxic relationship.  I really hope the writers address this.

    The acting in the Kieron and Niall scenes were great.  The show has lost a great actor in Jake Hendriks.  It was gut wrenching to hear Kieron beg Niall not to hurt John Paul, and I pretty much hope Niall doesn't feel the need to do what Kieron asked. 

     The actors did a great job on a storyline that was rushed, but I always knew that they would.

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    cakefan's picture

    I had a different

    I had a different interpretation of the John Paul & Craig scenes. I don't think the relationship is toxic - Craig only took his chance with JP AFTER he found out Kieron had broken up with JP and very supportive of him and the JPK relationship before that, JP wrecked Kieron's life all by himself, Craig himself did not have any part in that. And because they both in their time wrecked some one else's life because they were in love with the other is not because the relationship is toxic but because they were both immature. I think the episode from Monday and Tuesdat showed they are primarily friends to eachother so sex-fueled? No, I don't think so. Kieron at the time said they both deserved someone to hold, be with, have sex with - Craig was talking about going to clubs, cafes, living together, not about sex. A re-hash? A little. I did not think the exchange at SUBar meant that Craig is still running away from his sexuality. I always thought he was bi - so I interpeted his relationship with a woman as a genuine attempt to get over JP, which didn't work, so he broke up wih her and told her he was still in love with his ex. JP on the other hand does not know Craig is still in love with him AND he hears a story that sounds a lot like him and Hannah, only  - and he thinks Craig's disinterest in having sex with the girl is for the same reasons as his: that he is gay. So he says "you told her you were gay" - now last year Craig's response would have been "I am NOT gay" - but Craig just goes "I told her I was still in love with my ex". He's not denying he's gay, he is telling John Paul - who is a dopey for still not having caught on to the fact that Craig is still in love with him - I still love you, duh! THAT's why I couldn't stand to have sex with her. And loving a man does not always equal being gay - but perhaps he is. Anything's possible at this point.

    Well - that's how I interpreted in any case. I think they left things like Craig's sexuality and the question how comforatable he would be with being seen as gay, open for interpretation deliberately, so it's easier to break them apart again after Kieron's death, and for them to discuss these things properly later on in the storyline. 

    dkellergrl2001's picture

    RIP Kieron Hobbs

    I'm not even really bitter about Kieron dying, because THAT PART made sense. He found out about Niall and he couldn't allow Kieron to spoil his plans of revenge against a family that he truly hates. He's too far gone, in his hatred to destroy Myra and the rest of her children. I'm surprised that he THINKS that he's in love with Steph, because it's not love, as his foster mother stated. It's obession. He THINKS he'll be "happy" if Steph's in his life. But, he'll get rid of anyone (Mandy, Tom, the other sister, Steph's family), who makes him feel like they're threat to his "happiness" with Steph in the future. When he had that conversation with Mandy and he told her that NOBODY could say what he and Steph could do, with their feelings about each other, it made my skin crawl.

    There's no turning back for him.

    Bravo to Jake, Barry, James and Guy for outstanding performances. 

    Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour

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    cakefan's picture

    Yes, bravo indeed

    I'd like to join in the cheers for these four AMAZING ACTORS. That episode had me pasted to the tip of my chair from the beginning to the end. You could have dropped a bomb in the next room and I would've yelled "Just a minute, I HAVE TO SEE THIS" 

    Either the Niall storyline, this episode, or one of the actors (I am rooting for Barry - not that the others aren't amazing but it's his storyline and he pulls of the hurt little boy/psycho murderer SO well) MUST get an award for this because it is BRILLIANT TV. 

      

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    guyburnetrocks's picture

    This episode was both

    This episode was both heartwarming and heartbreaking. I like both Kieron and Craig and I was really happy to see Craig and JP interact and on the other hand shattered at Kieron's scenes. I thought Jake Hendriks was amazing and Barry Sloane should definitely win a multitude of awards for this episode's potrayal. He was awesome!

    Guy Burnet however for me delivered the lines of the year in such an amazing way. His acting tonight was so totally spot on. The JP/C coversation in the McQueens house reminded me of JP's first confession to Craig about being love with him at Hannah's party and the gut-wrenching JP's soliloquy at the airport. Only this time, roles were switched and Craig's heart-wrenching admission of a wretched year apart from the man he loves totally floored me. I'll say it again, I think Guy Burnet's a really talented and astute actor.

    I'm not too sure about the intercutting of the love and death scenes..but hey its a soap- poor editing is expected.

    Anyway, JP and Craig? Legendary stuff. I'm happy :)

     

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    giantlawnmower's picture

    WOW

    This episode was amazing: every actor gave an amazing performance. While I am very sad to see Kieron leave, as he is a character within in his own right in the show, there decision to have Niall kill him does make him seem all the more... evil!

    Now, I have been a McDeaner from the beginning, so it was no surprise that I enjoyed them being reuntied. But what struck me was how, instead of having Craig come back as a new man, without the problems, they decided to go for him still being a bit of a mess about his feelings for JP. His speech was genuinely heartbreaking; and it's very telling that knowing he has a man wiling to give up everything for him, JP would still rather be with Craig who he can see is not perfect. This is why I have always felt John Paul belonged with Craig.

    Barry Sloane will win something for that performance; if he doesn't, it is a scandal. 

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    BobbyBaby's picture

    I am very sorry to see

    I am very sorry to see Jake/Kieron go as he was the best part of this entire s/l to me. A wonderful character and a wonderful actor (except for his recent out of character behavior to prop the McDean dreamteam, yuk!) The death scene was devastating and horrific, amazingly acted by Jake and Barry.

    What can I say about Craig. I loathed him then and I loathe him now. After a couple of episodes indicating a more mature, more empathetic Craig, he is now back to the same old selfish, self absorbed, maniputative, abusive, closet case asshole. Well, if that is what JP wants (and he has also regressed to last years pathetic self) I guess he will be getting what he deserves, a lifetime of this toxic, unhealthy relationship with Craig.

    Well, at least I won't have to read anymore from the McDean freaks, prattling on about their "Sunset Ending".

    A poor resolution to a formerly involving s/l in my opinion. I hope to see James, Jake, and Barry in the future: they are all so good. I'll leave Guy for the SE fanatics.

     

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    cakefan's picture

    Abusive a-hole?

    That's you'd see him as selfish, I'd understand, self absorbed if need be. He is still in love with John Paul and is making a play for his own happiness. Wouldn't call that selfish or self absorbed but if you want to, I am fine with that.

    But he knows Kieron has broken up with John Paul over him and he thinks he knows John Paul is still in love with him. He's been miserable over JP all year and has to go back to Dublin soon. Meanwhile JP is being stubborn and denying was unhappy about how things were going with Kieron and he is denying he still loves Craig. He's even denying he broke up with Kieron (although if packing your bags and moving back home doesn't constitute breaking up I don't know what does). So I can understand he goes for it, takes his chance and applies a bit more force than before. Call that manipulative if you want. But guess what, turns out he's right. JP does still love him. In that case, can you blame him for making the play? For forcing things a bit? 

    About Craig being a closet case and the relationship being toxic - well I said plenty about that above.

    But an abusive asshole? NO. I don't understand what Craig did to make you think he that's what he is. But feel free to pursuade me otherwise.  

    Re your comment about Guy: if you don't want to compliment someone - why not just not mention them. and if you want to slate someone's acting abilities, do it based on their acting abilities, not on a portion of their fans. Also, don't generalize among their fans. Brian Kirkwood, James Sutton and Jake Hendriks seem to think Guy Burnet is a wonderful actor. Are they SE fanatics? And by no means wanting to drag dkellergrl (apologies, d) into this but she complimented Guy alongside the others and I don't think she'll mind me saying she is not an SE fanatic. 

     

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    Brian Juergens's picture

    Just a note...

    We have to keep the headlines PG (this is a family site! or something...), so I tweaked yours a bit. I think you still make your point!
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    cakefan's picture

    Thanks

    and apologies - hadn't thought about that. 
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    nordic balance's picture

    Craig needs to sort out his feelings about his sexuality

    whatever it may be.

    His character seems to have matured a bit but in some ways he's still stuck where he was in the airport.

    It's so heartbreaking. I believe JP did the right thing at the time. Craig was too messed up, too volatile, too obsessive and ashamed then.

    Craig was wanting desperately to be with JP but also wanting to not have it MEAN something about his sexual identity. That's a tricky bit of mental gymnastics.

    Of course he doesn't have to consider himself gay just because he's in love with JP but he also shouldn't be ashamed.

    It's wonderful that his love for JP is so powerful but I'm still having difficulty with the way he reacted to JP's assuming he's gay and with the fact that he was willing to play with another girl's heart.

    There is no indication that JP wasn't aware of Craig's feelings for him. Craig had been calling him non-stop since the whole kieron storming away thing happened.  JP knew why Craig was calling him, that's why he didn't want to answer Craigs' texts and calls and that's why Craig was so annoyed when he asked for the "10 minutes".

    Craig said he told the girl (after six months I might ad) that he was still in love with his ex.  So for six months he couldn't bare to  kiss her or have sex with her but his only explaination is that he was in love with his EX? Seriously? 

    He's been out in the big bad world, he's been to college, surely this must have broadened his horizons a bit.  Even he at this point has got to think that he MIGHT be a little bit gay or bi.

    Craig may be gay, he may be bi, either way he's still got some really big issues about it and the suggestion that he might be gay shouldn't STILL make him all pinched lipped and grrrr!. If I have to hear "I'm not gay, I just love John Paul!" one more time I might plotz on the spot.

    It still feels like his loving JP is something he feels is being done to him like a drug habit he can't kick or like he's been possessed, like he'd rather he didn't want to be with  JP but he can't help himself.

    All that talk about JP being in his head wasn't about them being "Mates" , it was about him feeling like he couldn't get JP out of him.  Pointedly, he didn't point to his heart, he pointed to his head like he wanted to cut his own head of just to get JP out of it.

    Yes it's dramatic and compelling and passionate in a way  but it still feels so ICKY (for lack of a better term)

    JP left Craig because Craig couldn't accept that his being in love with JP might mean he wasn't straight and that stills seems to be an issue for Craig. 

    JP's identity as a gay man is important to him. This has been well established  (even if he doesn't walk around waving rainbow flags all day)

    I do believe they love each other.
    I believe Craig loves JP very much.


    I believe JP never stopped loving Craig (which doesn't mean he didn't love Kieron very much and couldn't have been happy with him had they put the end to the marriage nonsense)

    I'm still not convinced that Craig is sorted about his sexuality and he still seems to be ashamed (not about loving JP but about what that might mean)

    After a year, you'd think he would have come to terms with what it might mean for him to be in love with another man.

    After a year you'd think he could have just calmly, sweeting, proudly said,"I'm still in love with you, I want to be with you, If you're done with Kieron then can we please get back together and try to make it work" (or some other more eloquent thing of the sort...)


    As a character, I can't see how JP would be willing to put up all the angst AGAIN.

    It's like those t-shirts boys wear that say "I'm gay but my boyfriend isn't"

    Let me just state for the record that I absolutely adore the character of JP, flaws and all.  I love him with Spike because it was a fun, sexy relationship that every 19year old should get to have.  Not every relationship is supposed to be the greatest love of your life (especially when you're young) but Spike was the healthiest relationship JP had (despite my undying love for beautiful Kieron). 

    If I had my druthers, Spike would swoop in and be a FRIEND to JP and help him sort all this out then they could go be fabulous young gay roommates and BFF for ever.

    Craig's still got a lot of growing up  to do.

    That would be my Sunset Ending

     

     

     

     

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    dkellergrl2001's picture

    Not obessed with a Sunset Ending

    You're certainly correct, Cakefan. I'm not at all an advocate, cheerleader and/or fan for the Sunset Ending.

    The dysfunction of the JPC relationship works for certain viewers, but I'm not one of them.  

    I've got to admit that I was a fan of the JP/C relationship back in 2007, but then one episode aired that changed my attitude/interest about the pairing. JP and Craig, came across as extremely co-dependent of each other, not recognizing and/or understanding that their behaviour towards each other and others was destructive. I couldn't get behind something that was supposed to come across as romantic, but it made me squirm to see how much passive agressive behaviour directed what JP and C did for the past 4 months of their relationship. I was so glad that JP left Craig at the airport last September. What's going on now, certainly does "mirror" what happened last year.

    It does sadden me that JP and Craig are right back where their relationship ended last year, because it IS (in my opinion) completely dsyfunctional, but it's out of my hands. I don't particulary like that ending for a character (JP) that I adore, but at least James Sutton had an amazing time as the character on HO.

    I have to agree with Michael about how extraodinary this storyline has been written in such a way for gay characters (and the SOLE male character, who just happened to fall in love with his male best friend) on a soap opera.

    On ATWT, the last I heard about NUKE, they went on a 'shroom picking/camping trip with Luke's GRANDMOTHER and some dude who works for him. This is the extent of what we're allowed to see here in AMERICA for two fictional gay characters.

    It's just absolutely ridiculous, yet that's what we've got to deal with at this time. Hell, if we had the JPC storyline for NUKE, I probably would hate it as well, but at least they would have an interesting storyline about their relationship, regardless if it was seen as dysfunctional or not.

    cakefan wrote:
    And by no means wanting to drag dkellergrl (apologies, d) into this but she complimented Guy alongside the others and I don't think she'll mind me saying she is not an SE fanatic. 
    Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour

    duckiestoy's picture

    You nailed it.

    I was a McDeaner for awhile last year but he was also scary and controlling.  If John Paul was a women and this was a Lifetime movie, Craig would be the abusive, stalker ex!  Their relationship is certainly toxic.

    I loved that they brought Kieron back to his priestly nature in the end, taking Naill's confession and offering forgiveness.

    The episode worked well for me although I hated seeing my JP falling back under Craig's influence like a battered spouse.  JP had rebuffed Craig again and again, he had said, "No," and only when Craig became angrier, more imposing, and forced a kiss on JP did JP relent. So sad. JP deserved happiness with a good man like Kieron.

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    Lily of the valley's picture

    Jake Hendriks, again ;-)

    oh, totally forgot: Kudos to Jake Hendriks & fare thee well (not for long hopefully)

    Kieron could have easily been a totally ridiculous at worst or meaningless at best character if it wasn't for Hendriks who luckily took the role very seriously and with a huge amount of sensitiveness. He managed to bring Kieron to life even though we still don't know much about him and he was written a bit 'meh' from time to time - and he was even able to pull of most of the cheesier lines they gave him with dignity ;-)

    According to interviews I've read - he strikes me as someone who is very intelligent, creative and equipped with a nice sense of humor. All of which makes me hope to see more of him in the future be it acting or something else creative.

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    Kieron RIP

    Lily of the valley wrote:

    oh, totally forgot: Kudos to Jake Hendriks & fare thee well (not for long hopefully)

    Kieron could have easily been a totally ridiculous at worst or meaningless at best character if it wasn't for Hendriks who luckily took the role very seriously and with a huge amount of sensitiveness. He managed to bring Kieron to life even though we still don't know much about him and he was written a bit 'meh' from time to time - and he was even able to pull of most of the cheesier lines they gave him with dignity ;-)

    According to interviews I've read - he strikes me as someone who is very intelligent, creative and equipped with a nice sense of humor. All of which makes me hope to see more of him in the future be it acting or something else creative.

     

    Kieron was my favorite character on HO and I will miss him.  Actually, I'm not too happy they killed him off.

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    Jake Hendriks = Great Bloke

    Hell, I can talk about Jake for hours on end and never get tired of it. There's a reason why many viewers fell in love with his portrayal of Kieron Hobbs. He's a wondeful actor, who knows how to work with his other co-stars. He's also not so hard on the eyes.  

    There's a reason why James Sutton and Barry Sloane became fast friends with the man. He's a great bloke, who also happens to be witty, charming, down to earth and real.

    Lily of the valley wrote:

    oh, totally forgot: Kudos to Jake Hendriks & fare thee well (not for long hopefully)

    Kieron could have easily been a totally ridiculous at worst or meaningless at best character if it wasn't for Hendriks who luckily took the role very seriously and with a huge amount of sensitiveness. He managed to bring Kieron to life even though we still don't know much about him and he was written a bit 'meh' from time to time - and he was even able to pull of most of the cheesier lines they gave him with dignity ;-)

    According to interviews I've read - he strikes me as someone who is very intelligent, creative and equipped with a nice sense of humor. All of which makes me hope to see more of him in the future be it acting or something else creative.

    Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
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    Liz T's picture

    hmmm

    interesting episode. too bad though in a way for john paul/craig fans. i mean, it's like "ok,  let's put them back together and at the same time, have jp's newly ex boyfriend die...."  - - yeah, jp will really be in a good mood from now on. PFT
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    Cadence's picture

    It makes sense

    In a way it's appropriate, Craul has always been destructive, and they've always hurt other people, so it's natural that the first time they have sex should be remembered with the tragic death of John Paul's ex. 

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    duckiestoy's picture

    First time?

    peachblossom720 wrote:
    it's natural that the first time they have sex should be remembered with the tragic death of John Paul's ex. 

    First time since Craig left last year, not ever, in case there are some new viewers reading. 

    netogeno's picture

    Sad, but well done.

    Well executed and very well acted. It was so sinister too. I mean, it wasnt a one time thing, he keapt giving him the stuff. The irony of the confession line was a  very good touch and Niall certainly secured confidentiality. Kudos to both actors.

    As for McDean, Im still not warmed up to Craul, classic soap opera drama, having sex with the ex while your BF dies (rolling eyes). It was ok. What I dont like about it is that it seems they are now right where they left off.  No apparent growth from either of them. 

    It would be interesting to see what consecuences Kieron death have on the couple.

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    dkellergrl2001's picture

    Kieron's Death = Trying to make the SE understandable

    I think that with Kieron's death, the writers will use it as a way to TRY and make the audience view it as JP needing to go on and reach out for who and what he truly wants in his life (Craig), because you never know what the future may bring you. Like, he could die tomorrow, never really knowing what he could of had with Craig, if he doesn't give their relationship another shot. Or some other really ridiculous thing, to make the SE sound sane for folks.

    netogeno wrote:

    It would be interesting to see what consecuences Kieron death have on the couple.

    Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
    fast.cars's picture

    *sigh*

    I guess now we'll have to survive John Paul's guilt histrionics. He'll pull away from Craig and Craig will have to be the one to fight for the McDean relationship. Or something like that. I don't care. I was a JPK fan. JP deserves whatever telling off Myra dishes out. I hope she really lets him have it.
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    Michael Jensen's picture

    Can someone please explain

    how this daily soap opera manages to be better written, better acted, and better directed than most American movies with budgets twenty times the size Hollyoaks must have. (And don't even get me started comparing to our soap operas.)

    Everything here was so well set-up from Kieron's tracking down Myra to Niall's find out to his "handling" of it to Craig's return. And while I'm no fan of Craul, I thought Guy Burnett has been fantastic in his return and James Sutton continues to be the best thing since sliced bread. Someone said earlier they totally buy these characters and I have to agree. JP totally seems like a young man and Myra seems exactly like a real mother. As for Niall, that is such a difficult role to play in being someone who is bascially evil, but doesn't see themselves this way.

    The worst thing about all of this is with JP off the show and Kieron gone, what are we going to have to write about?

    cakefan's picture

    Kris? Spike, if the rumor is

    Kris? Spike, if the rumor is true that he will be brought back?
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    Spike's Rumoured Return

    Is this the rumour that was started by the webmaster for Tom Vaughn's (the actor who portrayed the character of Spike) forum?

    Does she have anymore information about that rumour?

    cakefan wrote:
    Kris? Spike, if the rumor is true that he will be brought back?
    Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour

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    The rumor wasn't started by

    The rumor wasn't started by the webmaster but by Tom himself who said there was something he would "quite like to lift the lid off" but couldn't until the i's were dotted and the t's crossed, but it was something that would make most of his fans very happy. Since most of his fans discovered him as Spike in Hollyoaks, and since it was widely known that JP and Craig were leaving and Kieron was dying -  leaving Kris as the only non-heterosexual character - pretty much everyone came to the conclusion that he would return as Spike. This was also something Bryan Kirkwood had said he wanted a long time ago, right before the appearance of Kieron - the initial idea was to get JP back with Spike and have Niall kill him but in the end he felt that wouldn't work.  If Spike turned up again, which was always possible as he never really left Hollyoaks, it would be for his own storyline.

     It is true, by the way: His agent's page on Tom says that Tom is due to be returning to Hollyoaks as regular character Spike:  http://www.limemanagement.tv/actor_profile/cv.asp?id=104 

    The rumor is that he will arrive with a boyfriend in tow. I hope one day we also get to see his dads!

    Lily of the valley's picture

    Spike =)

    cakefan wrote:
    The rumor is that he will arrive with a boyfriend in tow. I hope one day we also get to see his dads!

    Oh - that would be great. All in all he had just this couple of episodes but showed every sign of an interesting character. Nice, but not too nice. Loved him - and I would have loved to have a straight version of him as a boyfriend when I was a teenage-girl.
    And I would love to see the Dads, too!

    Oh dear - seems like I will have to follow HO for another while...

     

    loneranger's picture

    "Not My John Paul"

    Broke.My.Heart.
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    nordic balance's picture

    "Sweetheart What Have You Taken..."

    Left me gutted. To hold someone's head in your hands as they take their last breath...SIGH! That last "Sweetheart" was just awful.
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    Tess's picture

    wow

    Hats off to all the actors involved here, especially Barry Sloane. Other people have said it already, but honestly, he has to win an award or something for this performance.

    I've been bitter about Kieron dying since I heard it would happen ages ago, but since it had to happen, this was a heartbreaking yet dramatic way to do it and in a roundabout way, I'm pleased. It was fantastic to see old Kieron resurface when he begged Niall not to hurt J.P. I'll admit, I was this close to welling up. And while I'm still undecided on McDean, I really did love the scene with Craig's speech about being unable to get J.P out of his head. Great writing!

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    ghrays's picture

    Kieron, again

    I've been trying to analyze why I was moved to tears when Kieron finally died by Niall's poisoning, it was so literally evil. I think for a number of reasons:  the actor's perfomances so convincing that disbelief was suspended (and much as I love Luke on ATWT, disbelief has never been suspended while watching that series); the writer's excellent storyline, weaved over a number of months (not days) that creates a real connection with the characters, and finally that Kieron was just so incredibly hot.

    When I tried to explain this to my husband, he did not believe me. 

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    jjose712's picture

    I totally hate it

    Kieron's death is a totally waste, first is a waste of a great character with lots to develop, second, it's too much melodrama to a soap (the killed Max only a couple of months ago), this wasn't a shock or a surprise (there were spoilers about this for months), totally ruined the sunset ending, is not posible a good ending for JP with his ex death, and i think a character like JP deserves better. By the way HO is gayless now (i can't remember Kris having a boyfriend), and i hate when a tv series who is inclusive let their gay characters go without replacement
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    Novinous's picture

    Great episode

    Maybe Craig's not gay, but even if he only loves JP and will not ever love another man he still needs to not be ashamed of loving a man. He doesn't have to be an out and proud gay, he just have to accept that it doesn't matter who you love, if it's a guy or a girl.
    We've seen JP and Craig in this bed so many times before and none of those time were when they were out and happy, I really didn't care for Sarah before (really hate her character) but in this episode I felt so bad, Kieron really didn't deserve that !

    I really wish they hadn't killed Kieron... (jjose is right there, I don't think we can call whatever that will follow in the next days a sunset ending, how can JP be happy with Craig that way ?) I had tears in my eye in that scene with Niall. He's such a well written character, his evilness is so pure and yet we can understand him, even though he ends up killing my favorite character I really feel for him and don't feel guilty about it. And Kieron showed how much he loved everyone, the whole McQueen family, JP and Niall, he tries to do his best to make everyone happy, Myra by giving her her son back, JP, well for obvious reason and he tries to give Niall his family back but doesn't realise until the end that Niall is long gone into a world where happiness cannot be found, the revenge world.

    Actually I thought they endleled it well at the end, it made sense (for the most part and when the personalities are back on track), even though I really don't like it. It might be right that JP and Craid end up together cause they are "soul mates" or whatever you call it, and it's hard to be with someone else when you know that you could be with the one you really love. But, even though the scene with Craig and JP was well written and beautiful, I realized there that I never liked Craig. I used to be in the McDean side but not because of the characters, more because of their love.

    And the sweetheart ... OMG Just with this word they showed us that JP really did love Kieron and somehow it made it a bit more bareble (yeah, I know, it doesn't make sense uh ?).
    Woo Kieron's death really is harder to digest than I thought...
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    j U d E's picture

    Kieron gone.....

    I'm done with this show! Total waste of a great character! Brilliant acting!

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    Anthony D. Langford's picture

    Poor Kieron

    I knew this would happen.  I knew that Kieron would wind up the loser in this relationship. and that Jean Paul was too immature and selfish to be in a adult relationship.  He was dumped and then murdered while JP is having sex with Craig.  JP and Craig's relationship hasn't changed one bit.  It's still self-destructive and toxic and Craig is STILL a closet case conflicted and shamed about his sexuality.  We're supposed to cheer this 'great love'?  Cheer Craig's return and cheer JP showing us he hasn't matured a bit?

    Not me.

     

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    justme's picture

    bring on the SE

    awesome awesome episode. GREAT across the board.

    And IM SOOO HAPPY. SE SE SE.

    but im sad too. because kieron died. and he certainly didnt deserve that.

    the sparks with John Paul and Craig are flying all over the place. as usual. I dont think their relationship is destructive at all. I think they love each other so strongly that their love actually survived one year of being apart.

    BRING ON THE SE PLEASE.

    <3 hollyoaks.