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"Hollyoaks" video clip update: One wedding and a funeral
This Hollyoaks clip is short, but what it lacks in length, it makes up for in lingering questions. It's Carmel's wedding day, and John Paul isn't exactly eager about getting ready. He's giving her away, but his mind is far away from his family, and he'd rather just sleep in. When Niall tells him he better get dressed and get going, J.P. says it would be worth it to show up in his skivvies just to see the look on Carmel's face. Niall looks stunned, and says "Carmel? ...It's Kieron's funeral today." Now it's J.P.'s turn to look stunned, as he didn't know Kieron's service was the same time as his sister's wedding, and he rushes off to talk to Carmel. Back at the McQueen compound, J.P. tells Carmel that he can't give her away, which seems understandable considering he's burying the man he loved, but his sister Jacqui is unmoved, saying "grieve Kieron on your own time", and slaps him in the face. Later, a radiant Carmel walks down the steps to the "oohs" and "aahs" of her family. Wait a minute, did i say "radiant"? Sorry, I meant Radioactive! Seriously, did she wash her face with an Orange Julius? Unfortunately, when J.P. (who seems perfectly fine now) zips up her dress, it's impossible for her to walk. Luckily, Michaela has the perfect solution: roller skates. With one crisis averted, it's time for another, as Carmel finds out that her intended, Calvin, has not shown up for the wedding. Okay, where to begin with this clip. First, why wouldn't J.P. know when Kieron's funeral is? If he didn't have a hand in the arrangements, at least he'd have know the date and time! Also, when they found out that the dates conflicted, why couldn't the time be pushed back a couple of hours? They could have rescheduled the funeral an hour or two. And why can't Myra give her daughter away? You'd think his family would understand. And finally, WTF is wrong with Jacqui? Your brother's fiance dies in his arms and you think it's selfish for him to want to go to the funeral over his sister's wedding? I got news for you, Jacqui. Kieron is only going to be buried once ... Carmel will have many, many weddings in her future! You can see the clip after the break, and let us know what you think of today's clip, and the antics of the McQueen family. Outraged, perplexed, or do you think it's just par for the course for this dysfunctional family? Submitted by on Mon, 2008-09-15 11:28. |
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Jacqui and John Paul used
Jacqui and John Paul used to be so close. That was horrible of her. If I were John Paul, I'd have a loud, messy breakdown later from the strain of appearing that cheerful for Carmel.
In other news, the McQueen women look scary at weddings and the bridesmaids' hair was dreadful. From spoiler pics, I had thought that Sasha was too hungover to straighten all of her hair, but now I see that it was planned that way. *shakes head*
tacky, tackier, McQueen
must be fun working for the Hollyoaks costume-departement, though.
Hehe - nice one.
But actually I agree with WTF. And except for the Kieron-dying episode I've had at least one WTF-moment every episode since JP & Kieron returned from their short absence. It's like now that a storyline they never much cared for comes to an end, they allow the trainees to take over the writing. With a new one for every episode.
The McQueens are a selfish bunch, no doubt about that - but they aren't heartless. And I don't get why they are displayed this unsympathetically. At least Myra and Michaela liked Kieron, too. Okay, I also thought Kris liked Kieron, but he didn't seem to care much either.
It's quite understandable that they didn't want to show Kieron's funeral. His character wasn't important enough for such an event - but why not simply say, that Kieron's family absolutely didn't want to have JP around? That would have been understandable, since it's a family that produced a priest and might be deeply religious (and homophobic).
Well, maybe this is going to make sense at some point - but I sort of doubt it at the moment.
JP not wanted at funeral?
Since JP didn't know about the funeral we might think it's because Kieron's family didn't want him there. However, since Niall did not about it, we can't be sure he hasn't preventing JP from knowing. I hope that question is addressed because I'd like to know if Kieron's family blames JP for his death or something along those lines.
I wish JP had gone to the funeral and I'm stunned how poorly a mourning JP and the deceased Kieron are being treated by the show and various characters. It's all so rushed and haphazard. This is definitely not the show's best writing. They could've pulled so much more out but I guess they're in a hurry to give the "sunset ending" which, really, I don't care about. Last year, sure, but after Kieron? I think Myra's right that Craig is bad for JP.
I do "get" the idea of being there for the living, his sister Carmel, and addressing your loss and saying your goodbyes another time though. It might even be something Kieron would suggest JP do, about paying him respects.
Jacqui is a witch
I can see Kieron's family keeping the arrangements from John Paul, and not wanting him at the funeral. But, John Paul, should have done everything in his power to see what was happening, he had to know that Kieron would be buried at some point.
He looks so lost when Jacqui slaps him, he looks like a little child. He's still devestated by what happened to Kieron, so this is no time for him to be making major decisions. And how ugly is it that none of his family asked how he's doing, or even seemed to remember that Kieron had died. These people are not acting like the McQueens usually act. They are self-centered, but they truly care for one another, and are usually there for eachother, but the writers had to change their characters in order to fit into the poorly developed story that they are telling.
One bright spot was John Paul saying that Kieron is the man that he loves.
tbh, Carmel is my favourite
tbh, Carmel is my favourite character. So I definitely would've gone to her wedding. She's never done anything bad to anyone - notice she didn't try to stop JP when he did want to go to the funeral unlike some of the rest of his family.
WTF happened to Jacqui? She used to be the one who was nicest to John Paul. I don't think in the end you can really blame them for moving on too quickly though - it's a soap. One week = about 6 months in soap time.
Carmel for sure
What?
I doubt you would want someone to tell you that the person who you love and are engaged to is not your family. Jacqui has no point, aside from being selfish.
Maybe Carmel or maybe not!
I think Kieron, the priest, would've counseled JP to go to his sister's wedding and not Kieron's own funeral.
I really think most reasonable people would say go to the funeral and be understanding that you bowed out of the wedding.
One element about this story bugging me is how it's like JP's family is treating the situation like JP and Kieron were "just playing house" and their relationship wasn't a real or valid as Carmel and Calvin's. I can't tell if that's meant to be so. It's hard to puzzle out whether it's because they had a gay relationship or because they think Kieron killed himself or what exactly. I wish to see that thought explored a bit more and maybe it will be when the McQueens have their own memorial for Kieron.
Unfortunately, since it looks like Kieron's parents didn't want JP there (we can't trust Niall wasn't manipulating things), it may be been best to go on your own time and go to the wedding. It's a tough call and all made worse by Craig lurking about like a shark around hoping to snap up the pieces left in the wake of Kieron's death.
I'm not even sure I
I'm not even sure I would have thought it a good thing for JP to go to the funeral. Suffered a bit of Niallitis myself yesterday - but I mean - this would have been more than slightly awkward. And even if Kieron's parents were okay with the JP/K relationship, Niall - as he seems to be in touch with them - would have made sure they knew about the circumstances, and I could fully understand why they would prefer JP not to be there.
"And who are you young man - did you know our dear Kieron?"
"Uhm, actually I am the twink your celibate son fell for within a few
hoursweeks, who lured him out of his safe position as a priest and finally treated him so badly, he felt all was over and made him commit suicide. Oh and when he killed himself I was actually in bed with my ex."Marvellous idea!
IMHO the guilt-thing would have been a far better reason to keep JP from the funeral - without forcing the McQueens out of character. I can just guess, that they don't want to focus on the suicide aspect any longer because someone might get over their own Niallitis and detect something fishy about the whole thing - and/or they just need to get JP over the guilt - how does a sunset work when there's a solar eclipse?