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"Hollyoaks" video clip update: Uncomfortably numb
Today's aftermath clips begin with the coroner hauling away Kieron's body, as John Paul looks on, still stunned by what's happened. Niall shows up at Steph's flat, and when he gets the call from J.P., gives Steph his best poker face (usually when he looks at her, it's with a different kind of "poker" face). He "learns" the news about Kieron, and tells Steph that he must have killed himself. As she embraces him, Niall looks up and gives one of the all time greatest "Damn, I'm evil!" stares directly into the camera. Love it! He tracks down an inconsolable J.P., who refuses to believe that Kieron would have intentionally overdosed, and wants to go the morgue to "be with him", but Niall convinces him to go home to see his mother. Myra (who's been rendered unconscious by a double order of fish & chips) is startled awake by the two of them, who explain that Kieron is gone (and once again, Niall makes sure everyone knows it was a "suicide"). Meanwhile, Craig decides to visit his sister Steph, who explains what's happened. He tells her that J.P. had gone over to see Kieron to break up with him, but the timing of his suicide doesn't make sense. He's insistent on going to see J.P., but Steph tries to convince him to stay away for now, as he needs to be with his family. Myra also can't fathom how Kieron could have killed himself, and after offering Niall a beer (oops!), laments that this will haunt J.P. forever. As J.P. listens from the top of the stairs (looking not like a grown man who has just lost his fiance, but like a scared, confused boy), Myra says that Kieron was like a son to her, which causes Niall to momentarily drop his guard, and I could be wrong, but almost blurts out "I'm your son!" The second clip we'll leave for you, but it involves the following: Myra losing her bid to be "mother of the year". Mercedes stepping up and showing why she's one of my favorite characters. Craig trying to convince J.P. (and himself) that Kieron's "suicide" was not their fault. J.P.'s final, heartbreaking plea to Niall "what am I gonna do?" After last week's stellar clips, anything was going to be a letdown, but I was a little disappointed with this follow-up. Both Craig and Myra came off as selfish (Craig probably more needy than selfish, but Myra showed an ugly side to herself). Anyone else hoping for more, different, etc.? You can see the second clip after the break, and let us know in the comments section if you were disappointed, or thought it was a worthy follow-up to the Kieron storyline. Submitted by on Mon, 2008-09-08 14:35. |
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I noticed those things about Craig and Myra, which doesn't surprise me about her, because she's determined to keep her secret from being found out by her kids. Yet, Craig's supposed to be matured from his time spent on his own in Dublin and where else he was during his time away from JP, his family and Chester?! Hmm.
Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
well, Myra has a whole
well, Myra has a whole bunch of selfish kids - she obviously was a good role-model ;) (I still heart her! I guess she experienced a lot of betrayal herself - so I'm always at the ready to find some excuses for her - and I still think Kieron was her best friend - even if she's not consciously aware of it. And at least she made sure JP was okay, before asking Niall about K's research)
What I don't get is the writers' intention with Craig & JP. Craig was selfish and needy, yes - at first I was ready to blame bad editing (just a little bit more of: "how are you, I'm so sorry, I'll wait if you want me to" before asking THAT question would have done the magic - or even better: asking THAT question a bit later, when he actually did show some sensible behaviour, which would have been more believable without THAT question - am I doing circles here?) - but after thinking about it - they were clearly showing off selfless Kieron vs selfish Craig. That's intentional. But what's the point? Kieron's dead. It's established that there is a sunset ending to come, isn't it? I fear not many viewers will be satisfied with JP entering a relationship where his feelings will always be second place - I mean - if Craig wasn't even able to put his feelings behind JP's in a situation like this, when will he ever be?
Why not just show us, that Craig has done a bit of growing up - being there for JP, urging but not pressing him to come to Dublin with him, to sort out their problems, to start a life together - and everything would be fine, wouldn't it? Even Kieron would approve of that, I'm sure, looking down from wherever he his ;)
Speaking of Kieron (I'm going off-topic here, so don't read any further if you don't want to. And don't blame me ;-) ):
I'm already missing him. During some boring work I had to do over the weekend, I thought about why this character had such an impact on me. Okay, Jake Hendriks is hot (allthough too young *sigh*) his voice is gorgeous and snugly established in my top three voices - but that's not the point.
It was his warmth. He was - even without a proper storyline or background - simply someone who cared, who was amused by other people's lesser faults, concerned about the bigger ones and as that someone who simply provided a lot of warmth. That's it - and in that he is of a dying species on tv right now (not sure if that pun was intended, hehe). TV is so crowded with selfish people with (House) or without (Grey's Anatomy - I anticipate with them - but I also want to hit everyone of them whenever they open their mouthes - hard!) reason. It all feels so cold - I literally can't warm to them. Warmth doesn't seem to be "in", seems to be considered as "boring", "old-fashioned" or something like that.
Me - I need some warmth on my tv (or youtube ;) - to balance out all the drama and desaster and selfishness. And the warmth has taken a considerable loss last week *sigh* ;-)
Well, just about right.
Great evil eyes!!! I loved that, nice touch.
I was expecting a real downer of and episode, but as soon as I saw that long shot of Myra I just count stop laughing, it really took the edge off.
I think its was just about right. Under different circunstances Myras lashing at John Paul would be right, especially from her perspective. But it was wrong to do it when she did it and in the way she did. I understand she is dealing with loss too, not only her friend Kieron but the loss of the chance to find her child, but that was selfish and inapropiate. Then again the McQueen are not known for thinking before speaking.
Yes, JP and Craig are acting inmature because that is what they are. You can forgive JPs reaction, anyone would be dazed and confused after dealing with that, not Craig though. He annoyed me a little, kind of selfish there, if anyone was wondering how much Craig had grown up, they have their answer...not much.
Independantly of what happens later, for now JPs reaction to Craig is understandable and logical.
One thing that I have been wondering though, is how much time does Craig have until he goes out of the show? Can anyone help me with that? I mean he was supposed to come back in the night time show, then it was three weeks, now he appeared on the daytime show, im confused. Im asking because one thing that would make the SE more easy to swallow is the big Niall blowout in October, where the truth comes out. That would take the pressure from the couple.
Kieron.. :o(
I don't care about Craig or Myra! I'm still numb, pissed off and saddened by the fact that they had Kieron killed........
Jake Hendriks was great as Kieron. Hope to see plenty more of him!
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Same here
oh man.....
geez, craig and jp never have it easy.
I know some find craig immature, but i find him more mature than last time he was around. He obviously is more 'open' about who he is and how he feels about JP.
both JP and Craig i think have one of those weird relationships that can go so far down, and can be very damaging in ways to themselves/or others....yet, these two will find a way to be together. heck, it's always done on soap operas. I guess it's hard to understand really, but eh.....i guess you'd only know if you were in such a position like that. I think it's these kind of tv romances that work the best sometimes....it's like "ok, obstacle after obstacle, after obstacle....are these two going to ever make it?" and it usually has a "root" effect.
...and i don't see craig as needy. I see him as desperately trying to make it right this time with JP. He doesn't want to lose him again, now does he? no. I thought it was sweet that he said he'd wait as long as it'd take or whatnot for JP to recover from his feelings of guilt over keiron. if that were me in JP's position, i would not walk away from such a 'gesture' if you will...but oh well, because....i think it's obvious what the final outcome for jp/craig will be. ;-)
Kieron :(
I just love this show. Kieron and JP were great together and It is a sad day indeed. RIP Kieron.
It seems like Craig and JP's relationship is going to take a lonnnnnng time to be resolved. Now that Kieron is gone I hope Niall's evilness will come to light and JP can stop blaming himself and get on with his life with Craig.
I know there are Craig lovers and haters out there but I am a in between. I loved JP with Kieron and I love him with Craig. This does not mean I approve of what they did to Kieron. It just means if Kieron had lived it would make for a great love triangle and it would be interesting to see who JP would have picked considering he loves both men and I'm not sure if I missed something but I don't think Craig was right in stating that JP was going to tell Kieron it was over between them. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway this was what great storytelling is (are you listening ATWT). The "ease" with which JP told Myra about him sleeping with Craig and the reaction of Myra with anger but not of homophobia but concern and disbelief that JP would sleep with another man while engaged to a man she accepted as her son-in-law and who was like a son to her. This would never be even thought of on an American soap.
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I think...
Craig is meant to come off as needy. He is seeing everything he wants slipping away. As with the last episode, new 'mature' Craig will always revert to the old Craig when he thinks he's going to lose JP. The scene at the McQueens was very reminiscent of the classic McDean scenes.
I think Myra was VERY harsh, and her lack of understanding was a slight shock. But nothing she wouldn't have said if JP and Kieron had simply broken up. The thing is I can't blame JP for jumping into bed with Craig. Seeing JO so upset in this episode broke my heart - especailly at the end. But Craig had some effecting moments too - when he is talking to Steph, that conversation is truly a sign of his growth (however further he still has to go!).
I guess I always looked at JP and Kieron from a different side of things because I loved Craul (I kinda like that ;p) so much; and if you examine it like that, every moment with Kieron could be seen as a symptom of JP missing Craig. So... bring on next week!