Liveblogging "One Life To Live": So ... Now What?
Now that the giddiness has subsided, Oliver and Kyle must face reality. Where do they go from here? Will they take it slowly? Jump in to a relationship? What about Nick? Shouldn't Kyle get the tux back to the store? Hopefully we'll find the answers to some of these questions today. Join us for the fun and refresh for updates! 2:05PM EST: It's voting day (as the voice of God informs us), and Langston can't understand why Marko is hesitant to vote for Dorian. HA!!! Brody is tied up with masking tape. Calm down, commenters, don't make me come down there! I love sarcastic Nick! Amelia says "maybe Kyle just wasn't ready to get married". Nick rolls his eyes and says "you think?" Oliver and Kyle are on a rooftop (apparently they've been on the rooftop the last ten hours talking about ... everything). Oliver says "we really need to talk ... about the future". I don't think he means colonizing Mars. 2:15PM EST: More comings and goings at the voting booth (which is the same place the wedding took place. It beats building another set). Dorian introduces Amelia to Marko's parents. Brody is struggling to break free, and his shirt flies up a little revealing a hint of bare skin. Not that I noticed or anything. His sister Scarah Fawcett comes in, and it actually takes him a second to realize that his sister was the one who knocked him out. 2:25PM EST: "Love is like muffins. Don't stir too hard ... there's supposed to be lumps". Oliver is wondering how the guys on the force are going to react (I would have thought his hot meltdown a few weeks ago would have tipped his fellow officers off). He admits to never being in a real relationship with a man. He's never even been on a real date. Kyle smiles sweetly and says "it's really complicated. Here's step one ... would you like to go out with me?" Oliver beams. AWWWW!!!!! Okay, now Brody's bound and gagged. And it was so helpful of him to guide the knot right into his mouth.
2:35PM EST: Okay, apparently there's some kind of mind-control ray that affects the obscure relatives of Llanview residents. Now Rex's Aunt is in on the big deception. Oliver is nervous that he won't be what Kyle expected, but Kyle tells him not to worry, and that whatever comes, they'll deal with it together. They hug, and they both says "I love you" to each other, and share a sweet kiss. Apropos of nothing, if this new version of V doesn't include the villainess unhinging her jaw to swallow a guinea pig, I am going to be very disappointed. 2:45PM EST: Blah, Blah, Jared stuff. Is it bad that I'm hoping for another trip to the ancient underground city of Eterna for the entire cast (including Kish). The two of them can get involved in lots of Indiana Jones-esque intrigue. 2:50PM EST: Awkward! Oliver and Kyle show up to vote and run into Nick. Oliver excuses himself, and Kyle tells Nick "I never wanted to embarrass you. I never wanted to hurt you. This wedding thing kind of forced the issue". Nick says "I hope the two of you are very happy" and walks off. Poor Nick. Rex shows up to talk to his Aunt, and Scarah is there to offer him some ... coffee. Uh-Oh. Preview Time: Not sure when Kish make their next appearance, but we'll let you know. Meanwhile, tomorrow we may just pay a visit to Oakdale! Submitted by on Tue, 2009-11-03 14:59. |
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And a propos Brett being straight..
.. or Kyle having to gay it up a little, I agree, to some extend. It definitely improved very much since August 6th, but I also think it was partly Nick's fault. I mean, because Kyle never really was into Nick. I'm sure we'll see less of the hetero slapping and über-masculine gestures now, with Kyle and Oliver. Oliver - even though he can do outbursts very well, strikes me as a very gentle kind of a guy. Kyle on the other hand...
The hug was very nice. As mentioned by others, it was full-on body hug and the hands on each other's backs weren't patting incessantly.. I must say, Brett is doing an excellent job. In today's and yesterday's kiss I even felt like he was enjoying it. Scott sure does! LOL! Ok, fantasies! Enough!
Full on Body Hug
doing what come naturally
Lucy 'splain to me!
I Don't Understand....
if the show needs to gay kyle up....
if the show needs to gay kyle up, they need to have him playing cher and going nuts about Adam Lambert's new album. i mean, last time i checked, that is truly what a gay man is all about
oh! while they're at it, maybe Kyle should invite oliver over on Thursday nights to watch Project Runway! They can cheer for christopher and critique Heidi's fashion choices.
i'm sure others can come up with better ideas how to gay him up.
What I meant..
You are referring to what I wrote too, yes? I didn't say gay men weren't manly. It's, it's just me. I don't like über-masculine men - straight or gay and I don't like über-feminine women - straight or gay. Anything else is what I like. That's why I said it, but I guess my English failed me and I should have expressed it differently. I don't know. I liked seing the soft/er side of Oliver and Kyle, when they were on that roof top. No yelling Kyle. Kyle's (Brett's) voice is even sweeter and sexier when he doesn't yell. I loved his voice, when on Monday he said to Nick that he invited his friend Roxy. The sound of his voice... aww..
Anyway, I didn't like the back slapping Kyle did with Nick, not because of the back slapping per se, but because it just showed so much, how desperately he tried too avoid being close to Nick. It was a bit off-putting, but I guess it was scripted (or not? I mean the back slapping etc.). Having in mind, especially, what others here have said already - they never tried to show us Nick & Kyle as a true, committed couple. It was rushed. I do think Nick was in love with Kyle though and he will make that clear to Kyle now, that Kyle is with Oliver. I just see the massive change of attitude in Kyle, the minute quasi, he switched from Nick to Oliver.. I like the softness, sweetness between Kyle and Oliver, that's all. With Kyle and Nick, it was only Nick who seemed to be able to be affectionate. I wouldn't mind some rough and tumble and yelling between Kyle and Oliver I guess, but only as long as there is affection, sweetness and cuteness too from time to time.
As for the arm over one's shoulder, well.. My father does that even with me sometimes (I'm a woman) and I don't like it. It's not that it's too straight, too masculine or other. I just think that it is not very elegant. I would have preferred Kyle's arm around Oliver's waist for instance. But that's just me and my weirdness I guess.
The 'not gay enough' or the 'gaying it up' is related to the above. Kyle just didn't seem very into Nick, 'his guy', at all in my opinion and it translated wrong in my brain. I see Kyle much more flirty, intimate, smiley and happy with Oliver and I like it. I think that's what I was missing, but I don't need the other extreme either. It doesn't have to be flamboyant.
We won't agree on this, I guess and the stuff I wrote probably only makes sense to me anyway.
Rex gives funny face
Did Rex have any episodes of his usally overly emoted facial expressions?
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10,2009.
It always worries me...
You're right!
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I feel bad for Nick
I don't think that will ever fully be explored
For me, I found the
For me, I found the character of Nick to be poorly written and poorly motivated, and I felt he was nothing more than a plot device, so I can't raise the energy to care what the character is feeling. Did he "desrve" to be dumped on national television?
No. Of course not. Do I care? No. Because the show never made me believe he was anything other than an obstacle between Kyle and Oliver.
But hey, that's just me.
I agree...
oh! i'm really hope...he will do it
I mean back and mess up,haha, of course i love Kyle and Oliver to death,but it would be just great if Nick will has some influence in their realitonship,spice up them time to time:) cos if they will turn in something boring and annoyng as Ollian i would be very upset...
True, but...
aww......my poor baby Nick
how gorgeous and upset he looks,oh! i really love that guy...
but what a cute and sweet scene between Kyle and Oliver,huh? they have just an incredible chemistry,and those smiles and kisses just melted me:))) adore them all !
Damn It!
Because of a fire,the L.A. ABC station isn't airing this episode until 1:36 am tomorrow.
Thank god for you guys,YouTube & Soapnet.
ETA:YES! I get to see the second half of the show after all! Whoohoo!
"Oh please! It's ten days bitching for every two days bliss with these two." Simone on Roman & Deniz "Alles was Zahlt"/"All That Matters"
L.A. ABC7 station
Probably not going to watch this anymore....
I know that it's ground breaking, and a huge step up to get this much recognition in any form in the entertainment media these days but.......I don't sympathize with anyone anymore...
Can someone tell me why Nick didn't go with the other nominee who was much more sound and had better qualities than the nutbag they are supporting now? She was going to legalize gay marriage too.....
Oliver pissed me off when he expected Kyle to jump back into his arms..after he broke him apart...giving him a light apology and thinking that was enough...You dump the guy in college out of nowhere and then pretend it never happened...What the hell do you expect?
Nick kind of becamse a little annoying with all of his secrets and string pulling behind the scenes.....still he meant well...
And now Kyle...the only one I liked left totally ruined it for me when he broke things off with Nick right after the guy tells him he loves him...and then goes make out with Oliver 5 seconds RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM....WTF????? How more screwed up can you get!!??
I don't like any gay characters on this show anymore!!! lmao
Maybe it's because Ive only seen scenes with them and so Im not distracted with anyone else.. but I have to say I am kind of disappointed with the degree of realistic aspects in the show....it started our GREAT....but went down hill after the whole going after gay-marriage thing as if they were ending world hunger or something....
Angel
Its a soap, If you came hoping for a modicum of real life then you came to the wrong place!
If it all made sense then where would the fun be in watching it.
Your right.....I was
Rex's Aunt
nick looks like
Now we need a happy lull
Hopefully they'll get the formula right.
There needs to be a happy (and slightly boring interlude) where everything is perfect. And then, something bad needs to happen.
yes.. i have to agree
they need to stop for a moment and make some fans breathe a little... i was worried because the next big kish moment (as i have heard) would be this friday nov 6 - and i just kinda bothered a little as to why it's so soon.
don't get me wrong - i would love to see our boys everyday... but since they are just the supporting characters of a big ensamble cast i don't want them to be backburned too soon. i am soo pissed off right now at Verbotene Liebe for making Olli and Christian wallflowers for more than a year now. i don't want that to happen to Kish....
and i really wish nick would give oliver a hard time!!!!! i need a dynasty moment! nick bitch slaps oliver.. and both roll down on the floor tearing each others head (and clothes) off..... or maybe a good old fashioned mud wrestling!... okay... i better stop now.
Nick and Oliver... aww...:)
i love your last paragraph about Nick and Oliver,i definitely would like to see that too,it's would be damn hot scene :))!
and i wonder, is it a funny thing? that one of the three gay characters who actually straight in real life has had so far more 'man on man' action than rest of two guys who actully gay,haha! i love it! Brett is damn lucky guy:)
I feel like I am cheating...
In Nick's defense, and mixed message?
It's clear that the audience is supposed to root for Oliver and Kyle to get back together, so Nick was always gonna be the third wheel. I, too, don't think anyone deserves to be publicly dumped the way Nick was. And I wish the writers would've given the fine actor (Nicholas Rodriguez) more to do, so we would have more of a rooting interest in his stakes, too, but hooray for all three gifted actors. Oliver and Kyle obviously don't have to be the only gay couple in Llanview; why can't Nick meet someone else? Heaven knows, there's no limit of straight love affairs in town.
Speaking of the town, am I the only one who wonders about the ramifications of the mayoral race? I realize it's a soap opera. I mean, in what other universe would a straight woman declare herself gay to win an election? But should Dorian win the election because she made up some sham lesbian relationship? I'm assuming Dorian loses because she's the villainess and is overly confident. But if she loses, and Victoria wins, will that be read as some repudiation of gay rights?
Two more questions
College days!
Oliver has never been out until just recently. Kyle it is unknown if he was out in college (even though it was said his parents outed him to himself at an earlier age, there is no clue whether he momentarily retreated into the closet in college).
So Oliver was a huge closet case in college and he and Kyle weree frat brothers...with benefits. It is implied they never had any romantic dates out (that would mean Oliver would have been out). If they went out together to grab a bite to eat or a movie no one would have noticed since they would have thought they were just frat buddies hanging out.
Although these college days could have used clarification!!11 If only we got to sit in on the 10 hr conversation Oliver and Kyle had last night! To be a fly on that wall.
Everyone is talking about November 6
Does anyone know what rumor is about this Friday's episode....I thought maybe the article I read, I think it was TV Guide online....or maybe one of the online soap mags mixed up the dates and thought that last Friday's episode was going to be telecast on this coming Friday, Nov. 6. Or that yesterday's episode would happen then....I don't see anything in any spoilers that indicate that KISH sleeps together or they have their first date or something special happens...so if anyone knows....please inform us.
i think you're right maskbear55
i think they just mixed the date for the big gay wedding. i read it on daytime confidential and i think they thought that the spoiler picture where Kyle is kissing Fish would be telecast on nov. 6. hmmm... i hope someone can confirm this.
i am soooo bummed right now that we lost MAINE.... i'm transferring all kish scenes on dvd to keep me entertained later... i live in san francisco.... but the pain that prop. 8 has caused us gays is still fresh... and to lose Maine is sooo disheartening to say the least. my thoughts and prayers goes out to our gay friends and straight allies in Maine.
Nov. 6th
Anthony - thank you
First again thank you for chronicling the KISH relationship on YouTube....and doing all the work you do here to keep us updated. I guess is was on DC that I read that the fans should tune in on Nov. 6. This week has been a very special week for gay couples on TV....Sad about Maine...I live in Northern MA and only 40 minutes from Ogunquit, Maine and know how hard they have been working to get gay marriage passed. But I know from our experience in MA that when it does pass in a state and people get used to it it becomes a non-issue. People I talk to in Connecticut feel the same way. Funny how both MA and CT had Republican governors in office when it passed. Best thing was the legislative pass in Vermont which made it legal there. So eventually Maine and NH will join us. I'm amazed at Iowa.
But back to KISH. I just hope if there is a surprise on Friday's episode it will continue the good feelings that the KISH storyline has brought the fans this week....we really need it and I've been watching your videos over and over again....can't get enough of the whole saga.
You are a much appreciated member of this and other forums.
Joe
Kish
I hope this means a real love scene for the boys, no different than what we see over and over for the hetero couples.
It doesn't have to be explicit and graphic, but it needs to be real. No fully clothed kissing that then leads to a soft focus on the fire in the fireplace, and then a cut to the afterglow. We need to see the clothes-shedding, fiery, passionate, intimate foreplay just like we would for any other couple on the show. (is it hot in here, or is it just me?)
Personally, I cannot wait to see what they do with them now. God help me, I've become addicted to a soap! (except I FF through most of the stories, because they bore me). There may be help for me yet.
Oliver and Kyle 4ever!
Hee! Look at me. Like I don't know how soaps work. Should we take bets on when they will throw the first roadblock into their relationship?
Gay it up
I just want to clarify what I wrote. I did write that Kyle(Brett) needs to "gay it up". Some people seem to think this was a negative comment or a steotypical comment that was wrong tp write because it is these sterotypes that we try to avoid. We try to make people realize that we are all differnt gay or straight. However, my comment was not meant to be stereotype or negative. It was actually very positve. As in "gay it up" like gay men are more in touch with their emotions (not all but most). When gay men meet whether dating or not they tend to give a kiss as a greeting. Brett IS doing a great job and I love his emotions. He was very sweet and definetly happier and smiled more with Oliver because he loves him and it is beautiful. I was simply stating that in the extremely wide spectrum of the gay and straight world, Kyle is on the straighter side. And I would have liked maybe the hand on the waste, or something like that. I was being very picky obviously since I absolutely loved the show and love Kyle and Oliver as well as what I have seen of Brett and Scott. If Brett wanted to twirl around in a cher wig as a straight man or play intense blood sports as a gay man, it is all good with me. I am gay and proud of being gay so to "gay something up" can only be a good thing and to me make something even better than it already is.
Soryy to have offended anyone!
i'm afraid i have to agree...
i know a lot of people would hate me for this but i do want to put my 2 cents in this (or 3 dollar bill)....
i do agree with both jude and bradano's comments about gaying it up.... but this is by no means a complaint against the wonderful performances of brett and oliver... everyone agrees that they are both brilliant and wonderful actors. i loved every minute they spent together at the rooftop. it's just that i felt kinda awkward when i saw brett put his arms around oliver's shoulder.... it was sweet yes... maybe it's just me but my boyfriend (ex-boyfriend i should say) and i, when we are being intimate or actually just being ourselves - he would never put his arms around my shoulders... maybe when we are walking... but in those kinda moments his hands and arms would always be around my waist... even the straightest acting gay friends i know don't put their arms around their boyfriends shoulders... always around the waist so i understand where bradano and jude are coming from...
maybe because Jo Weil and Thore Schollerman set the bar soooooo high that i kinda felt that every actor playing gay characters should follow their example. i got used to seeing two lovers (on tv that is) affectionately being really close to one another with legs intertwined, olivers arm is around the christian's waist, or christian lying in oliver's lap... and they are not even trying! GOD I MISS OLLIAN!!!! :-( What the f%$k are they doing with our beloved super couple?!?!?! oh welll... win some, lose some.
AGAIN - BEFORE YOU THROW TOMATOES AT ME - this is by no means a complaint against the beautiful Brett Ckaywell and Scott Evans... they are both wonderful and brilliant actors... I AM NOT ALSO NOT NITPICKING cause even though i felt a tee bit disappointed, overall the scenes were very moving, believable, beautifully made, and totally sqee-inducing.... i love love love their kiss... and that hug!!! ahhh!!!! i just lost it! i never felt this way since christian was crying besides olli's hospital bed while sigur ros is playing in the background... I LOVE OLTL AND ABC!!!
Intimacy
The KISH romance is continuing and that is a great thing. If they spin off Nick into his own story loop that would be even better! However, I must agree with the comments regarding the intimacy with the couple. Now, these two have not been together long or even around each other in a positive way. I liked the fact they were awkward actually because given their history they are really starting to get to know each other and the puppy love aspect is still there in way. But, given they were on the roof for 10 ours I would think that a little more affection would be there be it being closer to one another, holding hands, head on shoulders, even cuddling on a lawn chair on the roof top. The cuteness of their words and Kyle's balancing act on the roof are all things that did work, what we need is more body chemistry and comfortablity between the actors with intimate affection. At least they kissed and at least they had their discussion but a little more closeness is something to grow with as the actors are around each other more often in a positive stance I think.
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10,2009.
I may go on about this forever...
I feel like I can't stop writing about this episode, but I guess thats how much I loved it. And you're right about the balancing act on the roof...Very Cute! Is it strange that when the scene first started I couldn't stop worrying about how high they were!? LOL! I can barely walk onto a roof let alone hang over the egde. It was adorable.
Also, is that Keith Urban in your pic? He is very nice to look at
Karl Urban
Thanks for the compliment bradano!
My avatar is Karl Urban, New Zealander and god. ;-)
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10,2009.
Keith Urban v. Karl Urban DUH!
Blasphemy!
How sad... you better hope Karl doesn't find out you mixed them up! You might be out of the fan club. ;-) Oh and I call dibs!
I recommend a New Zealand film "The Price of Milk" for more Karl goodness btw.
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10,2009.
Better than me...
Oh my...
Do we need to have your eyes checked again? Shia is no Karl!
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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!
Legally married Sept 18, 2009. Wedded Oct 10,2009.
Keith Urban v. Karl Urban DUH!