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Remember that Pepsi Max ad we didn't like? Guess who else hates it?


A couple of days ago we showed the above ad for Pepsi Max that just started airing in the UK. We were less than impressed, but most of you who commented didn't have a problem with it.

The ad takes place in a pub where two guys are trying to help their friend gather the courage to make his move on someone who's "giving him the eye". After chugging some Pepsi Max he ventures out, past a mousy girl, a bimbo, until he finally settles on a hot hunk at the end of the bar. His friends stare at the proceedings in disbelief, with a look of obvious disgust on one guys face.

So the message of the commercial is that ... Pepsi Max will turn you gay! Actually, the message is probably that the soft drink will give you the confidence to go after what you want, etc.

Well, the always sweet-natured American Family Association has weighed in, and announced that they are not pleased with the ad either, saying it "promotes the gay lifestyle".

Which totally makes us reconsider our opinion.

We'd like to hear your thoughts on the ad. Do you like it? Do you hate it? And if you do hate it, does knowing that the AFA hates it too make you want to give it the benefit of the doubt?

Oh, and reader HobdaGoblin came up with an excellent point: Why the hell is the American Family Association protesting a UK commercial? What, is the U.S. gay agenda not enough for them anymore? Now they have to spread their phony outrage to the rest of the world? Look, as an American, I'm willing to take responsibility for unleashing Paris Hilton and Stuffonmycat.com onto an unsuspecting planet, but I am not taking the blame for this!

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  • dustin schmidt's picture

    dusty lol lol I think

    dusty

    lol lol I think its great but america isnt ready for it..just like if the guy was a black man and the woman was white...not ready for it... so ya i think it was great...i by no means thought that by drinking pepsi max that itd make u gay...lol

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    Mister 2's picture

    interracial, even with a white woman is less of an issue

    particularly once it hits toy shelves and toons aimed at kids. 

    The ad's a little long but I like it. The gay issue in its oh-so-controversial way (can't wait for *that* to go away)  aside, it doesn't strike me as much different than this one from a couple years back where this guy is waiting in a bar for a friend who's bringing his mom along. So the guy starts flirting with a woman in the bar and then the friend comes in and says "I see you've met my mom." Pure cheese.

    Jonathan's picture

    I'm with you guys

    It's an old joke that's been played out in commercials. Perhaps the fresh take Pepsi could have taken on it would have been to have the two buddies swoop in on the poor ladies to "console" the frustrated women their friend passed by.
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    Ed Kennedy's picture

    As I said before

    I like the ad. When I read on another site AFA hated it, I felt like coming back here and crowing in glee that the ad was good, but I restrained myself until AfterElton brought it up. Their website call-to-action made me laugh into my Fruity Pebbles. I still say we have a 50/50 chance of seeing this Sunday during Superbowl since Pepsi has said they're using a chunk of their 4 minutes to promote Pepsi Max.
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    nordic balance's picture

    He noticed me

    *swoon*

    You don't have to take the blame for anything you don't want to, sweetcheeks. 

    I can only assume the AFA have decided that, as the parent company (no pun) of Pepsi is American, then their interests abroad are fair game too.  However, the minute, the SECOND one of the slimy, bottom-feeding, mouthing-breathing pieces of pond life that is the AFA so much as sets its in-bred tentacle on my turf, they'll be saying their prayers for a whole different set of reasons. 

    That's not a threat, it's a statement of fact.

    Big love to everyone else over there. x 

     

    Tanwen's picture

    I think the friends are

    I think the friends are more 'Say Wha'?' than disgusted.

    I think it bears stating that this is part of a large ad campain going on for Pepsi over on this side of the pond. We already know the message is going to be 'Pepsi gives you the confidence to go after what you really want' from the other ads.  The whole 'Pepsi makes you gay' conotation didn't even occour to me until you said it.

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    Sean's picture

    Disgust?

    I would have to agree, they look more suprised than disgusted, and if this is a UK advert, we do not "say wha'" but we may on occasion wtf, and feel very naughty.

    So there.

    xxx

    giovannif7's picture

    I don't hate it.

    As a matter of fact, it makes me appreciate Pepsi a little more, for allowing their product to be shown as a tool which helps the guy find the courage to express his gay desires in front of his buddies. I would have hated it if he approached the guy after drinkng "the wrong brand of soda," then switched back to one of the women after drinking a Pepsi.
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    Darrien's picture

    American 'Christians' regularly interfere overseas

    It's no surpise that the AFA is complaining about something happening in the UK. Whenever there has been legislation going through Parliament, it's been noticeable how many of the politicians - particularly in the House of Lords - have researchers from various American evangelical/fundamentalist groups feeding them with arguments on why the gays must be discriminated against. It's never been a pretty sight to behold - not only does one feel disgust at the interference in British affairs by another nation, but one also ends up holding one's own politicians in contempt (which isn't new, but it adds hue and nuance to the breadth of that contempt).

    Nukely's picture

    The world

    Rick Warren the AFA and other fanatic American religious groups are looking for world domination. That's what's disgusting.

     

    Dee's picture

    "We didn't like?"

    I had no problem with that commercial and most of us didn't.
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    Nukely's picture

    I thought it was good

    The joke is on the friends not the gay dude.

    That drinking Pepsi could be shown as encouraging you to do what ever it is you desire, even suck cock, is a triumph. It's no wonder the AFA have their undies in a bunch.

     

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    Eddus's picture

    that bloody advert! Don't get me started again!

    I really hate that advert. I had to write a giant angry rant on my blog after I saw it. What made it worse was that a got linked from another queer media blog (no where near as great as you guys) they said it was a step forward to gay representation and that we should write to Pepsi thanking them. Nope, won't be doing that.

    Luckily I've only seen it online so far, if I watched more tv I probably would have seen it by now and may have thrown something at the tv. 

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    Cameo's picture

    Well I don't think it's a

    Well I don't think it's a very good advertisement as far as ads go. I mean, does it doesn't make me want a pepsi, (where as the pepsi comercial showing soda poured over ice makes me thirsty and the ones with jingles get stuck in my head forever), nor does it exsplain what pepsi max is, apparently it's like Coke zero but with pepsi so it has no calories but still tastes good. I mean, you'd think there'd be a slogan, like, Maximum flavor, zero calories, to exsplain what it is, and why I should drink it. Or maybe a tag line to go along with the ad, Pepsi Max, go for what you really want. Which goes with theme of the ad, and plants the thought in your head that Pepsi Max is what you really want. Maybe I just like comercials that actually sell the product. I also couldn't help thinking "they're in a pub, why not drink alcohol to get the courage to talk to someone," but comercials aren't supposed to make sense.

    However, it does grab attention, and leave you thinking about it. So it suceeds in standing out from thousands of other comercials you see everyday. 

    IAs far as gay content, it's not offensive, I don't think so, maybe cut the part where the friends give each other the "wtf" look. (which looked more like shock and confusion/inability to act than disgust to me) And yeah it's definately going to make the Fox news people angry and the "christian" media watchdog groups whoever they are. 

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    Wheeler's picture

    I like the line 'most of you

    I like the line 'most of you who commented didn't have a problem with it'. Didn't most of the commentors like it? :) I'll reiterate what I said over there; I think it's predominantly a positive message, despite the jerk friends, and I think it's a sufficiently original spin on an old idea to be laudable. I'd normally have thought this is the sort of representation AfterElton would get behind, so I was surprised by your condemnation. It must be weird for AfterElton to find itself in bed with the American Family Association. :)
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    brothasoul's picture

    My problem with the commercial...

    ...is that it took too long for him to get to the hot guy at the bar.

    One "I'm not going after the chic" moment was more than enough.

    Campion's picture

    The AFA's opinion on the ad

    The AFA's opinion on the ad does not change my opinion on the ad ---don't find it offensive but the last couple of seconds do not work for me at all.   

    Given the history of the AFA the mere presence of anything "gay" would set them off. The ad could have had the hot hunk turn down the Pepsi drinker in a homophobic manner, we could all have hated the ad and be starting to call for a boycott of Pepsi, but the AFA would still take issue with the ad for fact that it showed a person who is gay. The AFA does not find the ad objectionable because it promotes the "gay lifestyle", the AFA is upset because it shows that gays exist.   

    nordic balance's picture

    Commercial Still Cool With Me - NEXT STOP, SUPERBOWL SUNDAY!!!!

    I really liked the commercial, even more so after additional viewing. It's geared toward young folks who would probably smack the "AMERICAN MAN" on the back of the head for his response (if it had been a U.S. commerical, I could totally see that)

    Grey sweatervest friend (AMERICAN MAN) was shocked and over the top in his WTF face.

    Red and white striped shirt friend (ENGLISH GUY) looked surprised but supportive. His expression was not one of digust or negative at all. Just kind of "Oh, well who would have thought?"

    Best thing to me was,

    Cute guy gets the courage to approach the smoking hot dude who's totally checking him back.

    Cute guy doesn't even blink at the cute bookish girl (who represents probably the "type" you'd think would be in his "league")

    Cute guy totally ignores super hot blond babe (don't think she's meant to be a "bimbo" or "oversexed", just the "ideal" woman who would normally be "out of his league")

    I think if it had only been one woman, you could have passed it off as she wasn't his "type". I think the clear message was he WANT THE DUDE.

    Very gay positive to me.

    Also, I think reason why the ending works is because Pepsi Max is "suppose" to give you the courage to do something "new" or something you didn't have the nerve to do before.

    If the guy's friends already knew he was gay, it would have taken the "brave new thing" punch out of the commercial. The point that anyone could be gay, even one of your best buddies, and Pepsi Max give's you the courage to "come out" is a great one.

    Someone said the commerical is part of a series currently running in the UK so I think it also shouldn't be evaluated out of context.

    Much like those Skittles commercials and Ikea commercials, it does help to have the context to appreciate the overall "message" of the campaign but I think this commerical also stands on its own.

    "Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." (Dorothy Parker)

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    isoron's picture

    What you mean "we" (old bad joke between Tonto and Lone Ranger)?

    Not serious! But I think that the majority of "us" weren't offended by the ad. And, Snicks, though I love you,  were you serious or just being your ususally arch self?

     

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    Mike's picture

    No problem with it here.

    I don't see what the big deal is here: Cute guy is egged on by friends, drinks Pepsi Max, walks past cute booky girl and blonde bombshell in a little black dress to go for the quite cute guy at the end of the bar. Friends might be surprised but in a "Um, okay, that was unexpected" way rather than a "OMG, gross!" way. 

    I don't think it's a totally revolutionary ad but I like it. I like it better knowing that the AFA hates it. 

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    dr_hf's picture

    UK stereotypes

    I thought this ad was inoffensive, though a bit tired - do what makes you happy, not what others expect - didn't another brand tell us to 'just do it'? Whatevs... 

    However, I think US readers may have missed an important, subtle clue available to UK viewers watching this ad. Of the two friends, the one on the left is (dubbed) to be English and the one on the right to be American. At the end, the English guy has a surprised, 'Who knew?' expression, while the American does look a little skeeved. But since the British perspective is that the US is weirdly hung up about (homo)sexuality, the friends' accents reinforce the message that the drink gives you the confidence to go after what you really want, and to ignore your dumb (i.e. American) friends. Never underestimate the subliminal power of anti-Americanism in UK pop culture, especially since 2003.

    An additional element of this dub is that it's the American who hands our hero the drink can in the first place - acknowledging the brand as an American one, but encouraging viewers to appropriate it for their own radical (i.e. gay!) purposes. We may have followed you into Iraq, but you can't control what we do with your sodas. Take that, AFA!

    It will be interesting to see if the voices dubbed on the ad in other markets are chosen to imply that the friend on the right is, er, 'on the right' politically - and perhaps also a bit of an ass.

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    Christian's picture

    2ND CHANCE

    If this is the case , can I recall my previous opinion. Could not understand the difference when I saw it on Gay clic last sunday.  Yes, now, I dislike less the ad , if showed in other country, the end must be different ( friends  showing support rather than be surprised by the choice of their fellow friend)
    Nukely's picture

    American

    dr_hf wrote:
    ...while the American does look a little skeeved. But since the British perspective is that the US is weirdly hung up about (homo)sexuality, the friends' accents reinforce the message that the drink gives you the confidence to go after what you really want, and to ignore your dumb (i.e. American) friends. Never underestimate the subliminal power of anti-Americanism in UK pop culture, especially since 2003. ...
    I noticed the accent but couldn't account for it. You're right The American acts grossed out, but he isn't grossed out in a funny way, a way that makes you empathize, he's grossed out in a way that makes him appear ugly and dorky. And in case you don't get that the American is uncool and uptight, he's wearing a bow tie for gosh sakes.

     

    Binx's picture

    Good Ad, Man

    I think its a good ad. It caters to plenty of audiences, with those that would have prefered the bookish girl who reads in a pub (very realistic, that) or the crazy blond in the skimpy outfit just begging for sex (seriously though, did we need that close up of her biting her lip?) and then, with a nod to exactly how confident the Pepsi Max will make you, he goes for the hunky guy behind the women (who really deserved the close-up).

    I love the thought that this ad is saying something along the lines of "it makes you gay" but, sadly, it isn't so. If it were, I'd start passing out Pepsi Max like crazy. 

    In the end though, I really think the ad isn't about being gay or his friends appreciating it or not, its about how confident the soda will make you. So, really, the rest is kind of gravy on the cake. 

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    LolaRuns's picture

    I like this type of ads.

    I like this type of ads. Why? Because I feel that the message to the straight viewer always is that anybody can be gay (in a positive sense). That gay comes in all shapes and sizes and all kinds of corners. Might be the dad fixing his son breakfast, might be the guy having a beer with you, might be the hot guy on the street. It's everywhere and it's cute and bouncy and fun. And the message to the straight viewer is don't assume anything/don't think that you know it all.

     

    There might be better or worse executions of the idea, but IMO the idea is still fun and valid. 

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    poof's picture

    BBC Canada

    has been running the ad..  didn't a US beer commerical have a similar theme?

    TriplicateGuy's picture

    I also liked the ad...

    ...and I was kind of stunned by the AfterElton response to it. I thought "does anything meet your approval?" 

     

    My guess from seeing the ad, though, is that Pepsi Max is a high-caffeine drink being sold to cash in on the Red Bull market. That would go with the "Be anything you want to be" message.

    Mike's picture

    I love the commercial.

    I really enjoyed the commercial.  I only wish i could have seen it for the first time without knowing the "punchline".  The fact that the AFA doesnt like the commercial is really irrelevant to me since nothing they say or do is of any real importance.

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    KauaiArtist's picture

    PepsiMax ad

    Ah, come on guys. There is NOTHING wrong with this commercial. I fear sometimes the knee-jerk gay libbers in the crowd have turned into the little old lady on the block shouting ad dogs for crapping and kids for playing.
    Michael Jensen's picture

    Just to be clear again, the comment about the

    commercial wasn't that it was offensive or homophobic; simply that this bit had been done before and was kind of stale. That's it.
    Ed Kennedy's picture

    Perhaps, Michael

    But I'm not sure I've ever seen it before where it left me smiling, as opposed to throwing up a little.  The positive spin, to me is a notable change in tone, say compared to the Snickers ad?

    Creativity in Hollywoodis at an all time low - how many sequels, prequels and reimaginings are coming out compared to original fair?  If they're going to recycle the same old gags, I, for one, am at least glad the punch line has changed. 

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    rusty44's picture

    PEPSI AD

    "In bed with "Quackers" Wild-Man and the American (Fascist) Family(??!!) Association? Oh, man! THAT image just cost me my ability to "up periscope" for about ... oh ... a CENTURY (chuckle).

     The AD'S just FINE.

    mrgillis's picture

    The Ad is Perfect

    I loved it when I first saw it yesterday, and love it even more knowing that it has caused the AFA to once again put their ugly hearts on their sleeves...

    Especially love the fact that the ad throws us all a curve-just like life-and lets it be known that, mercy be, not everyone is straight.

    Good for Pepsi.  I hope it shows in the States.

    Bert