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Scraping the barrel, too: Eight gay celluloid disasters
From Hustler White Will Truman to the newly out-of-the-closet Barry: ""Let me tell you a little secret that we try to keep within the community: Gay movies suck. But until the laws change, we're still obligated to go see 'em." That quote speaks volumes about the attitude many people have (and yes, I'm aware of the irony of a character from Will & Grace talking about gay entertainment that sucks), but maybe we should cut gay filmmakers some slack. It must be difficult coming up with the just the right balance of nuanced performances, storyline originality, and soft core porn. Of course, I exaggerate — there are plenty of gay movies that have managed to overcome the burden of being a "gay film" (and please head on over to the AfterElton.com Greatest Gay Movies Poll to cast your vote for your favorites). But this post is about those movies that didn't succeed. Whether through bad acting, poor production values, lousy scripting, or general ineptitude, these gay filmmakers weren't able to translate their visions successfully to the screen. Like the last Scraping The Barrel post, these selections are mine, and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of anyone else at AfterElton.com. So feel free to tell me I'm nuts (I'm looking at you, Copycat fans), and please leave your own selections for the worst of the worst. Here are eight, in no particular order — and for this list, we'll be using the Anita Bryant scale (with five Anitas being the worst).
Hustler White There are some bright spots to this tale of a male prostitute (namely Tony Ward and his ... talent), but I'll never forgive Mr. La Bruce for permanently searing that image of the Stump Guy in my mind (trust me, you don't want to know). Rating:
Lie Down with Dogs
"Lie Down With Dogs is a flea-bitten mongrel, and it should be neutered before it reproduces." "Watching it, I felt like it had slowly lifted its leg on my brain." "There were more laughs in Cujo, and more sex appeal in Devil Dog: Hound From Hell."
Rating:
See more gay debacles after the break.
Slutty Summer This was one of the strangest acting performances I've ever seen. He seemed to have trouble remembering the lines (that HE had written!), and it appeared like some scenes started out scripted, but when he couldn't remember what to say, he ad-libbed (to the confusion of his co-stars). Rating:
The Doom Generation I loathe this movie. It's so self-conscious about its "hipness" that I wanted to smack it in its smug face. I felt the same way about Pulp Fiction, but at least that movie had a few scenes that worked. The Doom Generation did have Jonathan Schaech, but not even he was enough to save it for me. Rating:
Frisk Unfortunately, they captured the brutality, but left out the nuances. What director Todd Verow ended up with was just a nasty, cruel neo-snuff film. Rating:
Boy Culture For some reason, this movie by Q. Allan Brocka was a big hit at film festivals and has gained a loyal following. But frankly, I'm tired of movies about young, superficial gay men and their shallow pursuits. Now, when they make a movie about older, superficial gay men and their shallow pursuits, I'm there! Rating:
Ben & Arthur Well, I knew I had to see it immediately, and I was not disappointed. This thing makes Glitter look watchable and I Know Who Killed me seem credible. You can see the NSFW trailer for director Sam Mraovich's history-making film HERE. Rating:
The Collected Works of Dave DeCoteau The undisputed king of "boxer briefs" cinema, David is responsible for such campy guilty pleasures as Leeches, The Brotherhood series, Beastly Boyz, and my personal favorite, the hilarious Voodoo Academy. David just signed a deal to make ten more films for the Here channel, so we can look forward to more awkward dialogue and pause-worthy V.P.L.'s in the near future. No rating (his films reside on their own plane of existence) You can see a pivotal scene from Voodoo Academy below (featuring a very young Drew Fuller), and please, give us your own picks for the barrel scrapings.
Submitted by on Fri, 2008-08-15 11:53.  That trailer...Submitted by
 For Ben & Arthur is the closest thing to real magic I've seen since Lucille Cataldo sang "Hairdresser" on Stairway to the Stars. THANK YOU. Also, while I agree that Doom Generation is seriously cringe-worthy, I actually think that his follow-up, Nowhere (also featuring James Duval in a gay role), is cracked brilliance. Nothing compared to Mysterious Skin, of course, but not half-bad... And Frisk is perhaps my least favorite movie ever made. Thanks for including it.  I take One ExceptionSubmitted by
Strepsi (276 points) (76 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:20.And that's Doom Generation. While Slutty Summer was so incompetent I turned it off, Doom Generation - IMO - was a brilliant critique of how buddy road movies play with homo-bonding, but always end up so homophobic. From the subtitle "A Heterosexual Movie by Gregg Araki", it tells you it is about how straight movies take such pains to NOT be gay, even if they are stocked with delicious man-candy like Schaech. And if you can make a cultural theory critique, AND cast Schaech!, then I'm all for it. I LOVE it, it even made my Top 10 Greatest!. and I thought it would play better in a gay-semiotics zone like AfterElton...ah well, to each his own Thanks for including FRISK, which could also lead a thread of "worst-botched adaptations of great books". To which I would add, for exactly he same reason: Running With Scissors How could a gay director "not get it" soooo badly?
 running with scissorsSubmitted by
electricbixxh (36 points) (7 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:41.i know i'm probably in the major minority, but i really liked running with scissors, the book and the movie.
 The book was amazingSubmitted by
dgchgo (1426 points) (273 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 16:49.I admit that I haven't seen the movie yet (although bated breath was involved with my anticipation of its release), but the book was horrifying and hilarious. Augusten Burroughs sure knows how to put words together. Dry was equally hilarious, well crafted, and -- who'da thunk? -- suspenseful.
 Actually...Submitted by
Stuart (33 points) (6 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:20.Just reading about them makes me long for those few minutes of my life back...:0)
 The "Ben & Arthur" conundrumSubmitted by
giovannif7 (623 points) (131 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:33.On one hand, it is truly one of the worst films (IMHO, it is THE worst film) ever made, and isn't one I'd recommend anyone. Yes, there is a hot-looking guy on the cover, and (to their credit) he is actually one of the stars of the film, Otherwise there is nothing to recommend it - a non-existent script, "acting" that should get the particpants barred from SAG, EQUITY and AFTRA for life, sub-amateurish direction, and completely lame sets, props, camera-work and lighting. On the other hand, when I hear people bitch about how terrible certain OK-to-mediocre gay films are, I want to sit them down and make them watch "Ben & Arthur," to get them to understand what it means to watch a TRULY awful film. "Ben & Arthur" holds solo residence at the lowest level of the subterranean parking garage below the floor underneath the bottom of the barrel. I'm sorry you had to experience it, snicks, but I'm very grateful that there are others who can testify to the experience of having sat through it. Maybe we should make up "I Survived Watching Ben & Arthur" T-Shirts?  I've (luckily, it seems)Submitted by
Randommer (700 points) (144 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:35.I've (luckily, it seems) never seen any of these. The worst gay film I've seen wold have to be Latter Days, though I'm pretty sure a lot of people disagree.
The camera angles on Ben&Arthur make it look like it was shot entirely with a built-in webcam.  Boy CultureSubmitted by
adriskrayzee (85 points) (18 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 13:50.I recently downloaded Boy Culture, but I havent watched it, I skipped through some parts just to check the video/audio quality, and I saw the protagonist kiss an old dude... that sort of made me not to want to watch it >.> As for the rest of the movies, I have never seen them, luck I guess.  I don't know.... we're allSubmitted by
octobercountry (843 points) (178 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:20.I don't know.... we're all going to be "old dudes" in time, if we should be so lucky! Perhaps a few years down the road your perspective will have changed... (Though I wasn't all that fond of "Boy Culture" myself; I have no interest whatsoever in watching films about hustlers...)
I'm like a superhero, with no powers or motivation... crappy moviesSubmitted by
octobercountry (843 points) (178 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:17.Over the past year or so, I've been using Netflix to watch quite a few gay films. Unfortunately, I would say that the majority of them weren't very good---or at least, they didn't "speak" to me in any way. There are a few on the list that perhaps many people wouldn't consider to be all that good, but which I rather enjoyed ("Regarding Billy," "Gone but not Forgotten"). And there were a good many that were pretty crappy in general, but that aren't quite bad enough to get on a "worst" list ("The Toilers and the Wayfarers," "Outing Riley"). But one of the worst was "Sun Kissed." I had absolutely no idea what was going on by the time that film ended... I'm like a superhero, with no powers or motivation... Same crappy moviesSubmitted by
Rob (5 points) (1 post) on Fri, 2008-08-15 22:05.I too have been using Netflix over the last year. I have watched dozens from around the world, and it isn't just English language movies that can stink. "Adored! Diary of a Porn Star" is an Italian movie that I would rank as one of the worst in the world. Another is an Icelandic gem named "Eleven Men Out", which can only make one long for a cliff and a herd of stampeding lemmings. But the top two positions for worst movies with a gay orientation are both American, "Traveling to Olympia" and "The Hours".
"Traveling to Olympia" can be forgiven to a point because it is obvious that everyone involved is an amateur. It was bad like a 1950s D-list movie.
"The Hours" is just as lame but with a huge budget and professional actors. "The Hours" was one of the most tedious, ostentatious, and overwrought movies ever made. I reached a point where I simply wished all the women would put very large stones in their pocket and just get it over with already. Talk about dismal personalities. I decided part way through that none of the main characters were worth any sympathy. They had lives that were good compared to many people, but they just seemed to think the dramas in their heads gave them the right to torture everyone around them, including the audience, with whining, whining, and more whining.
 Leaving MetropolisSubmitted by
Defft (672 points) (139 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:25.Talk about bad actor/writers trying to make a movie. Oy, this one was terrible.
 Lie Down With DogsSubmitted by
virgo108 (256 points) (53 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:35.Lie Down With Dogs deserves 6 out of 5 Bryants! This is easily the worst abuse of celluloid in movie history; it even made Slutty Summer look good. It could be the black hole of movies or, ooh wait, the anti-matter of movies. I didn't like it. (Duh!)
love greg arakiSubmitted by
electricbixxh (36 points) (7 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:39.i think greg araki's films are brilliant. i actually prefer the doom generation, nowhere, totally fucked up, the living end to films like mysterious skin. it is a brilliant movie BUT i appriciate the, well, weirdness of his first block of films. anyone see smiley face, his new one? not a gay movie but a great stoner movie. ps. you forgot to include "Saved by the Belles" really great visuals in the movie, but the story is so played out and boring. worst ending ever  Patrick Bachau has slid into Hot Daddy-dom with easeSubmitted by
David Ehrenstein (4028 points) (901 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 14:54.Check him out in his youth in Eric Rohmer's La Collectionneuse, and a couple of decades later in Wim Wenders The State of Things.
 Two lesser evils on the list.Submitted by
Wolfi (437 points) (118 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 15:10.Dare I say I somewhat enjoyed LIE DOWN and BOY CULTURE has its flaws, but at least the eye candy was good? Rest of the list? Spot on! Thanks! -- Boy cultureSubmitted by
jjose712 (330 points) (72 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 15:38.The truth is that Boy Culture is the only one i watch, but the truth is that i enjoy it a lot and i don't think that is a bad film at all
AgreedSubmitted by
Karen (347 points) (89 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 17:13.I have seen a number of movies that deal with hustlers, HIV, and gay-bashing over and over again. They do get old, but I liked Boy Culture. I think it was well written and acted. The characters had some depth beyond the basic hustler storyline. Plus, Derek Magyar is not hard on the eyes.
Lie Down With DogsSubmitted by
db (1566 points) (327 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 16:22.I really agree about Lie With Dogs... on of the most unpleasant movies I've ever seen. Then to top it off, that year at the West Hollywood gay pride parade they had a float with boys in their underwear with microphones yelling "Lie Down With Dogs" at the crowd. A lovely image. I also remember volunteering for the LA Gay & Lesbian Film Festival the year Frisk came out--there was blood on the doors. People couldn't write enough negative comments. I completely agree about Bruce La Bruce--even with the occasional pretty actors his movies are just amateur porn that is really too unpleasant to jerk-off to. I haven't seen Doom, I've always ran hot and cold on Araki so I tend not to see his movies unless people tell me they're really good. Now I'm afraid I may have to watch it just to judge for myself. As for some of the other movies mentioned here--I really liked "Leaving Metropolis", it's a downer but I thought it was pretty good even though it has the "gay man in love with a supposedly straight man" story that I try to avoid as much as hustler movies.  The Deep EndSubmitted by
Scrufff (30 points) (6 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 17:29.I'm sure i'm in the minority, but oh god how i hated this film!!! And i remember at the time it get getting pretty good reviews. Just don't see how it did
I really wanted to like The Deep EndSubmitted by
virgo108 (256 points) (53 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 19:03.but it felt like the writers came up with a lot of good ideas (or, at least, a lot of ideas) but there was no one around editing the script. So, we got a movie with everything AND the kitchen sink included. I left the theater completely confused and disappointed.  Bad flashback, maaan...Submitted by
par3182 (105 points) (22 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 20:31.I used to work in a video store that specalised in gay & lesbian films so I've seen far too many bad ones. Just off the top of my head - To Die For (the English drag ghost story, not the Kidman one) Circuit (although the hunky guys on the cover made it very popular) The Fluffer (popular for the same reason as Circuit) Neverland Mambo Italiano Kiss Me Guido Nine Dead Gay Guys Balls Food of Love Poster Boy and more recently A Four Letter Word  ben and arthurSubmitted by
westero (225 points) (45 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 20:54.My mouth was literally hanging open. The clips shown in that trailer are almost enough to make my brain bleed. I cannot fathom how anyone could sit through that. There are bad movies that are fun to watch, but that looks like one where you would be rolling around on the floor screaming after about 50 seconds...
Oh My Sweet Lordy-Gordy..Submitted by
Bill S (865 points) (177 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 21:41.That trailer for Ben and Arthur was jaw-droppingly awful. Think about it-that's supposed to make you WANT to see it. I guess I've been lucky, in that I managed to avoid seeing the movies you listed. When I was trying to come up with my list of all-time worst, the only ones I thought of were movies that, as bad as they were, I still kind of enjoyed on some level. Does that make any sense? ('Cause if it doesn't, then I'm not gonna list them.)  Say UncleSubmitted by
Knickie (2094 points) (427 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 22:34.No way to stress how wrong, stupid, you-insert-the-bad-adjective-here this film is. Why Peter Paige thought a comedy about the world's dimmest gay man who is mistaken for a child molester would fly on any level is one the great mysteries of queer film.
David DeCoteauSubmitted by
giovannif7 (623 points) (131 posts) on Fri, 2008-08-15 22:49.Based on this Hollywood Reporter article, it looks like we're in for another bunch of mind-numbing horror remakes of classic tales, as envisioned by (apparent) underwear fetishist DeCoteau. If you've seen what he did to "The Raven" and "The House Of Usher," you know exactly what to expect from the new batch he'll be cranking out. The occasional piece of DeCoteau shlock can be fun, but does anyone really want to see ten of these things, plus two new series developed by him - over the next two years? I'd love to ask the folks at Here! TV and Regent if they think that gay audiences are clamoring for that many trashy horror projects - Dante's Cove and The Lair must be making them a LOT of money! I wish someone would convince them to spend a little more time exploring other genres.
Beverly KillsSubmitted by
JC (66 points) (13 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 00:32.I thought Boy Culture was reasonably enjoyable and Derek is beautiful. But "Beverly Kills" -- I can't begin to imagine a worse film. We stopped watching after 20 minutes, fast forwarded to see if it lloked like we might miss something. I think the only thing the Beverly Kills is brain cells.
 THE worst gay film ever.Submitted by
Insideguy (1583 points) (319 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 02:09.Those fillms look like high art compared to thje latest X-FILES movie. A) I like my aliens from outer space and not Russia. But most importantly B) there has to be an easier way to get a sex change than the way they do it in this absurd, franchise destroying, we-did-it-for-the money debacle. other absurdities include, A RIVER MADE TO DROWN IN (1997) with Richard Chamberlin What the hell was this film? PARTNERS (1982) with Ryan O'Neil and John Hurt Hands down he worst gay movie ever made. TTHE GAY DECIEVERS (1969) with Michael Greer. Drag never seemed so awful. BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS (1970) with a cast of unknowns who should remain so forever. Shame on you Roger Ebert. Speaking of which, David Decoteau is the new (and gay) Russ Meyer.
INSIDEGUY Bad gay movie: TroySubmitted by
GaySpouseDotCom (575 points) (196 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 05:41.Troy, starring Brad Pitt, is one of the worst gay movies ever. Why? Because they made the famous main character who is homosexual into a heterosexual guy, and turned his male soulmate into his cousin! Doesn't get much worse than that (heck, if the film had included Mel Gibson or Shia La-Doofus on screen it would have been the trifecta of movie disasters) :P
 To be fair...Submitted by
Dave (1817 points) (358 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 23:50....in the Iliad, Patroclus (Achilles' lover) is Achilles' first cousin once removed, so they didn't make that part up.
 When in Greece...Submitted by
Psionycx (4979 points) (998 posts) on Sun, 2008-08-17 00:47.Although in those days marriages with first cousins were perfectly acceptable so why not homosexual love affairs? Actually, what I found far more ironic was the 300. That was made out to really cast the ancient Spartans as having such Middle American Republican values. Which was such a bald-faced lie it isn't even funny. However, the irony is funny, because homosexual liasons were so pervasive in Spartan warrior culture that when Spartan men finally got married (usually around 30) the bride would often get her hair shorn to a crew cut and be dressed in men's clothes for the wedding night so her husband would feel less uncomfortable about consummating the marriage. But instead they cast the Spartans as ardent champions of democracy (they weren't), defenders of freedom (they were among the biggest slave-owning states in Greece) and derisive of Athenian "boy lovers" (the Spartans did that as much as, if not more than, the Athenians!). It was such a blatant appeal to Bush voters. Except there's Eric BanaSubmitted by
gabriel oak (101 points) (20 posts) on Sun, 2008-08-17 12:39.Troy is redeemed by the hunky Eric Bana who sometilmes is the only reason to watch the film he is starring in--like The Other Boleyn Girl.
In Defense of movies Boy Culture and Lie Down With DogsSubmitted by
GaySpouseDotCom (575 points) (196 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 06:07.I like the movie Boy Culture. It reminds me that younger generations of gay guys often do not have any healthy, affirming role models to speak of, so they are just finding their way on their own. Also, at the time Lie Down With Dogs (LDWD) came out, most "gay" movies didn't show much affection and physical contact between gay characters. LDWD had a scene by a pier in P-town where the characters just kiss passionately and for an extended period of time - which was a really stand-out scene for a gay movie and later the two main guys are having sex on a coffee table in a scene that's both comedic and noteworthy for the time. And really, the movie is a light-hearted look at a young guy going to P-town for the summer and trying to afford it, a rite of passage for quite a few gay guys back when P-town was at its height as the place to go. "The Deep End" is brilliantSubmitted by
David Ehrenstein (4028 points) (901 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 08:42.-- especially if you're familiar with the original, Max Ophuls The Reckless Moment. I don't know why you were "confused and disappointed" virgo108. What was it about the film you didn't understand?
I get the whole "mother henSubmitted by
virgo108 (256 points) (53 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 09:13.I get the whole "mother hen protecting her chick" thing, but I was disappointed that the character immediately leapt to the conclusion that her gay son killed his lover, and then started this elaborate cover-up. This is one of those movies, for me, that I just want to scream at the characters, "Just TALK to each other." I suppose that's akin to wanting to scream to horror film heroines not to go into the dark basement. I'll have to check out the original version. Well of course if they only talked to each other --Submitted by
David Ehrenstein (4028 points) (901 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 11:04.that's a 'given" of melodrama. But I'm not sure if she believed he killed the guy. The presence of the body, and the fact that the tape links th deceased to her son, is the problem. Not easy to "explain" to the police, right? Tilda told me she was playing her own mother in this. Her father and all her brothers are in the military and away from home for long periods of time. If a crisis arose her mother would have to face it pretty much alone -- just as the heorine in this film does. In the original it's a daughter, rather than a son. Joan Bennett has to get rid of the body -- but she doesn't take a swim to do so like Tilda. James Mason plays the blackmailer -- who falls in love with her. Great movie.
 BoySubmitted by
tihkon2 (52 points) (13 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 13:34.Hmm...I liked "Boy Culture", and not because I thought anyone was cute. (even though Derek Magyar is extremely good looking IMHO) I thought the performances were good, and the story interesting. I thought it was great that they "went there" and had the lead and his elderly customer/friend have a love scene. Gawd, that Ben & Arthur thing is AMAZINGLY horrid. I had seen the trailer before, and just assumed it was some amateur joke clip, made for fun. Someone upthread made a point that not all stinkers are American made. I have to agree that "Eleven Men Out" from Iceland, was a big, stupid, boring, unlikable mess of a film. The lead was very handsome, but his character was so unlikable, that his looks didn't matter. But I did actually enjoy Italy's "Adored. Diary of a Porn Star" If only because I've had a crush on Prince Urbano Barberini for over 20 years. :-) Arakki's work is hit or miss for me, and Decocteau's stuff isn't quite good enough to be real camp.  Staircase to HellSubmitted by
cosmolake (20 points) (4 posts) on Sat, 2008-08-16 18:35.We all have our least favorites, but without a doubt, the biggest waste of talent on celluloid is the 1969 BOMB, Staircase, starring Richard Burton and Rex Harrison. Two hairdressers in London taking care of the their aging, yet maniputlative mothers, please. It could have been been Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolff? Instead it was Bitchy Boys in the Band UK style. Just awful.
 Nine Dead Gay GuysSubmitted by
Jason B-S (416 points) (82 posts) on Sun, 2008-08-17 17:21.This IS a bad movie... but it's a bad movie that you guiltily enjoy. It's funny while being offensive, and it knows it's doing this with full tongue in cheek. I started watching the trailer for Ben and Arthur and couldn't even get through that... god (and those poor saps who watched it) only know how bad it truly is. Boy Culture was done well and I don't agre with it's placement on this list. But I do understand that there are WAY too many movies out there about topics that have been done over and over and over again. Everyone thinks THEIR story is more exciting, but often their coming out/family issue/first relationship/etc. story looks like everyone elses.
 Shout out for DeCoteau's "Leather Jacket Love Story"Submitted by
dback (451 points) (90 posts) on Sun, 2008-08-17 21:04.Future epitaph: "It seemed like a good idea at the time." One film DeCoteau made which no one ever mentions is the twink-hunk romance "Leather Jacket Love Story." It's an unpretentious little black-and-white comedy set in Silverlake (I think) with nothing earth-shaking going on, just a nicely sketched relationship between a young man barely 21 and an "older guy" of 30. Their chemistry together is incandescent. (And Christopher Bradley deserves all the love in the world--he was also stellar in "An Early Frost.") So I always think good thoughts about him. I remember the hoo-ha over "Frisk"--I think a riot almost broke out at the Castro over that one. However, the programmers at the 'stro have always had a weakness for sordid hustler movies--"Boy Culture" is "Citizen Kane" measured next to "Twist" "Sugar" and other arty troublemakers ("Sun Kissed" "Like A Brother" "Hey Happy!" "Shiner" "Summerland"). I really liked "Boy Culture" a lot; it was well-cast enough to overcome the potential familiarity of its subject matter. I was amazed by "Mysterious Skin" and respect "The Living End" and "Splendor" enough to cut Araki lots of slack re: "Nowhere" and "The Doom Generation"--hey, Gus Van Sant is a brilliant talent, and lots of folks had problems with "Gerry" "Last Days" and "Elephant." Sometimes a work of art just doesn't get received the way a writer-director hopes it would. Now I'm going to fix a double-strength cocktail, and check out this preview for "Ben and Arthur." If I don't comment again in the next couple days, my eyeballs melted. |
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Quite a mixed bag
Lie Down With Dogs has fleas, But I found Boy Culture passably enjoyable. Doom Generation likewise. As for Frisk, Dennis hates it 'Nuff said.
Ben & Arthur
Oh,come on.
Glitter is not THAT bad.Sure it`s not a very good film,but it is so not one of the worst in the history.For those singer-turn-actor movies,From Justin to Kelly/Spice World/In the Mix & most of Madonna`s films,these are what I called horrifyingly bad.
And I gotta admit I`ve never heard of any of these films except for Boy Culture,which I think is OK.I consider myself a Darryl Stephens fan,and at least Derek Magyar is hot.I can live without the gay hooker thing though.
De gustibus non est disputandum
afhickman
"It takes a village (to make Village People)"
And I normally wouldn't argue with anyone else's taste, but...You seem to have overlooked the fact that "Doom Generation" also starred the delicious James Duval, who brightens up any film he happens to be in. (It also costars Rose McGowan, before she went "charmless.") Yes, the satire (take a look at that supporting cast!) is laid on with a trowel, but it's all in a good cause: Getting Duval and Schaech into bed together, if only for a moment, before the lights go out! And, while I agree with you that "Boy Culture" was a big disappointment, no movie with Daryl Stephens (see AE's Hot 100) can be ALL bad. Plus, the film gave old farts everywhere a role model in Patrick Bauchau, who actually gets to make it with Derek Magyar! Let's hear it for the Old Boy!
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