This quick (35-second) clip from Torchwood was apparently considered too "racy" to air, but if you're a fan of the show, it's a hoot. Ianto and Jack have a discussion about Rhys, and Ianto learns a valuable lesson: Never give Jack an opportunity to brag about his junk!
You can check out the clip (which comes, appropriately enough, from the episode entitled "Meat") after the break. Am I the only who's fairly certain that John Barrowman really enjoyed filming this scene? (Big t/y to Diana for the tip!)
That was "too racy" for tv? But the whole kiss in To the Last Man and the Adirft scene where Gwen walks in on Ianto and Jack aren't? Bollacks! I love the scene and it finally makes a little more sense about the whole tape measure thing that talked about in Adam.
The difference is where Ianto's hand was. In the scene when Gwen walked in, both their hands could be seen. A kiss is just a kiss. In this scene, Jack clearly puts Ianto's hand on his package.
Also, if I remember correctly, this was before Jack and Ianto were "in relationship." Walking in on boyfriends without their shirts on is a bit different than a supervisor taking advantage of an employee.
When Gwen walked in on them in Adrift, their hands were pretty clearly below the equator and there was some definite elbow action. This clip takes place after series one, (two Janto kisses, stopwatches, and forlorn coat sniffing), after the "date" convo in KKBB,and after the big kiss in TTLM (which most people read as Jack's way of saying "I love you"); they were definitely in a relaionship at this point.
I don't think it was cut because it was racy, I just think it was cut for time and not being important to the plot. And as much as I love this clip, during most of Meat, Ianto is snarky and a bit badass (tasering bad guys in brain). I wonder, if GDL had played this a little less deer-in-the-headlights, would they have kept it in?
(Though I like the idea that Jack can still get Ianto flustered, as well as the suggestion that they'd jump each other at a moment's notice if they weren't both so professional.)
i dont think that captain jack was taking advantage of ianto. i think there was enough chemistry there for them to be able to do that. ianto certainly wasnt complaining anyway ; )
I've tried watching this show. I generally enjoy sci-fi and having a gay/bi main character is great, but just not enough. John Barrowman is just an abysmal actor. One of the worst and most inept actors I think I've ever seen. To me, he's just unwatchable. In this scene alone one can see the actor who plays Ianto act circles around Barrowman.
I'll agree that Jack Barrowman is a "different" kind of action hero, but I disagree that he can't act. Last year posters on this site were complaining that his American accent wasn't genuine--until they found out he was raised in the States and that's the way he always talks. Give him a chance, maybe he'll grow on you. In the meantime, go back and watch last year's "Captain Jack Harkness" episode and see if he can't move you, just a little.
He can act, but the thing is, he's coming from a background as a stage actor. To switch from being in theater to doing film and television, and actor has to relearn and actually unlearn a lot of things. Its a difficult thing to do. In theater you play to the back of the auditorium, you act with your whole body, you project to the whole house. In film, you have to speak no farther than the camera, use your face more than you're body, its more intimate. Its a whole different ball game, and its hard to transition.
Especially coming from a musical theater background. In all stage acting its important to enouciate, which sometimes means over moving your mouth,especially in musicals where the lyrics of a song can be hard to understand. So on stage the actors bodies and mouths both move in ways that they wouldn't in day to day life. In film, its all about looking natural. Which is why some actors who switch over from theater, especially musical theater, might not seem like good actors at first.
I agree with you, up to a point. But I think we've seen, over the years, that over-the-top acting styles may be appropriate to certain genres of both film and television, and "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood" belong to just such a genre. Charles Laughton regularly played to the back of the auditorium, as do Academy-Award-winning actors Ben Kingsley and Murray Hamilton, to name just a handful of Thesps who have spread the Gruyere a bit thick at times. When they turn it down a notch for a smalller, slice-of-life kind of film, the effect can be riveting. Has anyone seen Kingsley in "Turtle Diary"? Watch that and then watch "Lucky Number Slevin" or "Sexy Beast"--what a contrast! Such acting styles are appropriate, once again, to certain genres, and I'd argue that both DW and TW are meant to be a bit cheesey and over the top. Captain Jack is just the latest in a series of SciFi Action/Adventure roles that are best served with a slice of ham. John Barrowman has already proved his versatility on stage and on film (did anyone else catch his frantic director on "Hotel Babylon"?); just once, I'd like to see him tone down the volume for a quiet role in an independent film, if only to silence his critics. Then I'd want him to head right back to Torchwood.
They talk about arming Rhys so they have already had the showdown between Jack and Rhys when Rhys first enters the Hub. They also would have had the boardroom scenes where Rhys going on assignment would have been argued about, as well as the course of action to be taken regarding the meat. Tension has been established and built upon, so this little bit of humour would break that tension and disrupt the flow of the episode.
Big thank you to Diana and Snicks for letting us know about this. If you find any more deleted scenes let us know!
Just wanted to add here, oh my god this makes my day. SQUEE! Litterally. Its so great, on so many levels, Ianto pointing the gun "make my day" then being all embarissed when Jack catches him, that is so cute. And the look on his face when Jack puts his hand there, omg.
ooohhh...
captain jack would win EVERY time!!
Cant believe this scene was deleted!
ianto's face was priceless
bring on series 3
From what Barrowman has said ...
Measure of Man
Captain Jack is such a wicked and naughty man and that's why I and Ianto love him so much. Thanks for posting that clip.
Love me less, but love me a long time - Les Chansons D'Amour
Too racy?
The difference
The difference is where Ianto's hand was. In the scene when Gwen walked in, both their hands could be seen. A kiss is just a kiss. In this scene, Jack clearly puts Ianto's hand on his package.
Also, if I remember correctly, this was before Jack and Ianto were "in relationship." Walking in on boyfriends without their shirts on is a bit different than a supervisor taking advantage of an employee.
Nooooo, actually
When Gwen walked in on them in Adrift, their hands were pretty clearly below the equator and there was some definite elbow action. This clip takes place after series one, (two Janto kisses, stopwatches, and forlorn coat sniffing), after the "date" convo in KKBB,and after the big kiss in TTLM (which most people read as Jack's way of saying "I love you"); they were definitely in a relaionship at this point.
I don't think it was cut because it was racy, I just think it was cut for time and not being important to the plot. And as much as I love this clip, during most of Meat, Ianto is snarky and a bit badass (tasering bad guys in brain). I wonder, if GDL had played this a little less deer-in-the-headlights, would they have kept it in?
(Though I like the idea that Jack can still get Ianto flustered, as well as the suggestion that they'd jump each other at a moment's notice if they weren't both so professional.)
taking advantage
i dont think that captain jack was taking advantage of ianto. i think there was enough chemistry there for them to be able to do that. ianto certainly wasnt complaining anyway ; )
Barrowman can't act
Jack puts the wood into Torchwood
afhickman
"It takes a village (to make Village People)"
I'll agree that Jack Barrowman is a "different" kind of action hero, but I disagree that he can't act. Last year posters on this site were complaining that his American accent wasn't genuine--until they found out he was raised in the States and that's the way he always talks. Give him a chance, maybe he'll grow on you. In the meantime, go back and watch last year's "Captain Jack Harkness" episode and see if he can't move you, just a little.
He can act, but the thing
He can act, but the thing is, he's coming from a background as a stage actor. To switch from being in theater to doing film and television, and actor has to relearn and actually unlearn a lot of things. Its a difficult thing to do. In theater you play to the back of the auditorium, you act with your whole body, you project to the whole house. In film, you have to speak no farther than the camera, use your face more than you're body, its more intimate. Its a whole different ball game, and its hard to transition.
Especially coming from a musical theater background. In all stage acting its important to enouciate, which sometimes means over moving your mouth,especially in musicals where the lyrics of a song can be hard to understand. So on stage the actors bodies and mouths both move in ways that they wouldn't in day to day life. In film, its all about looking natural. Which is why some actors who switch over from theater, especially musical theater, might not seem like good actors at first.
And don't forget the mustard
afhickman
"It takes a village (to make Village People)"
I agree with you, up to a point. But I think we've seen, over the years, that over-the-top acting styles may be appropriate to certain genres of both film and television, and "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood" belong to just such a genre. Charles Laughton regularly played to the back of the auditorium, as do Academy-Award-winning actors Ben Kingsley and Murray Hamilton, to name just a handful of Thesps who have spread the Gruyere a bit thick at times. When they turn it down a notch for a smalller, slice-of-life kind of film, the effect can be riveting. Has anyone seen Kingsley in "Turtle Diary"? Watch that and then watch "Lucky Number Slevin" or "Sexy Beast"--what a contrast! Such acting styles are appropriate, once again, to certain genres, and I'd argue that both DW and TW are meant to be a bit cheesey and over the top. Captain Jack is just the latest in a series of SciFi Action/Adventure roles that are best served with a slice of ham. John Barrowman has already proved his versatility on stage and on film (did anyone else catch his frantic director on "Hotel Babylon"?); just once, I'd like to see him tone down the volume for a quiet role in an independent film, if only to silence his critics. Then I'd want him to head right back to Torchwood.
I'd vote for did not fit
I'd vote for did not fit in rather than too racy.
They talk about arming Rhys so they have already had the showdown between Jack and Rhys when Rhys first enters the Hub. They also would have had the boardroom scenes where Rhys going on assignment would have been argued about, as well as the course of action to be taken regarding the meat. Tension has been established and built upon, so this little bit of humour would break that tension and disrupt the flow of the episode.
Big thank you to Diana and Snicks for letting us know about this. If you find any more deleted scenes let us know!
I Loved This SO MUCH
If that scene in 1.10
If that scene in 1.10 wasn't too racy, than this isn't even close. It had to be cut for time.
Adorable clip, but I'm glad they didn't keep it in, I don't think it'd fit anywhere.