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The pitter patter of little feet for T.R. and Mark.

Out Grey's Anatomy star T.R. Knight may be ready to take a huge step with his boyfriend, the ... slightly younger UCLA student Mark Cornelson. Or it could be just tabloid innuendo.

T.R. tells OK! Magazine that he's looking forward to raising children in the future:

“I wouldn’t rule [adoption] out at all. I think it would be adopting versus any other route. But yeah. I mean, there are a lot of kids who need homes.”

Of course, he doesn't say when or even if he'll be doing it, but the article makes it seems like he's ready to hit up Angelina Jolie for one of her spares.

According to BGAY.COM,the couple may be hearing wedding bells soon:

T.R. Knight will join the Matthew Shepard Foundation to help kick off National Gay-Pride month with a symbolic dusk commitment ceremony at the famed West Hollywood hotspot, The Abbey, on June 4, 2008. Couples from around the nation will “tie the knot” in an event officiated by the Mayor of West Hollywood and rumors has it T.R. and Mark will be among the marrying couples.

Again, this conjecture travels and warps quickly. I guarantee that what started as T.R. to attend charity function with boyfriend will eventually morph into T.R. and boyfriend to marry & adopt Cambodian conjoined twins.

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  • you_will's picture

    hmm...how long have they been dating exactly?

    if this is true...then wow....that's....quick. That is some serious.....love.

    ..well, best of luck to em...i guess.

    Knickie's picture

    I have to say that seeing a

    I have to say that seeing a celeb and his boyfriend holding hands makes me all gushy. I don't care -- it's beyond sweet and cute and I can't even imagine seeing something like this even a few years ago in a mainstream magazine, even a tabloid.
    Gwen's picture

    I've been surprised the

    I've been surprised the mainstream gossip magazines have actually run photos of TR and Mark. While these have published images of Lance and his various boyfriends and NPH and David Burtka I didn't expect US Weekly and OK! to show the ones where TR and Mark are holding hands. Then someone actually pointed me to People Magazine issue where they were hand in hand at the Elton John post-Oscar party. Usually People is the most conservative but I guess it's a new day.
    brcksvg's picture

    I have to admit

    I can't get past the age difference.

    I know it's certainly none of my business, and straight guys do it all the time, but dating someone half your age just strikes me as sad and kind of pathetic and just so...obvious. And yes, I think the same thing when it comes to straight couples. I think it just speaks to a lack of self to partner with someone who so clearly isn't in any position to challenge you in any way.

    It's my opinion and I'll probably be at the receiving end of a shit-storm over saying it, but T.R. has never struck me as much of the role-model he supposedly has become, and this relationship just confirms it for me. Truth be told, being called a f*g is the best thing that ever happened for his career.

     I know... I'm evil and I'm going to hell.

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    you_will's picture

    Brock....

    I won't say you're evil, because we're all entitled to our opinions....

    you say "I think it just speaks to a lack of self to partner with someone who so clearly isnt in any position to challenge you in any way"

    ^ what makes you think that? a young person can challenge an older person. heck, i am challenged all the time by my parents, and vice versa and that's a heck of an age difference and yeah...I'm not dating my parents...but why do you think a younger person can't challenge an older person in a relationship? I am sure they learn new things about each other every day...and that can be a challenge in some relationships...

    brcksvg's picture

    True

    You make a good point.

    I know from my past experiences with older men that I certainly wasn't a cypher waiting to be told who and what I am (was?)

    I guess my point is more that, from my observation that many times in a romantic relationship with such a vast age difference, the older person is seeking someone to act as a blank slate that they can project onto what they need to see/have in a partner, and those relationships tend to end once the younger person begins to demand being seen as a distinct individual outside of whatever role the older partner had constructed for them.

    I also think there is a big difference between a relationship involving a 30/48 match-up versus an 18/36 matchup. At 18 you've only begun to have a concept of who you are as a person, let alone being able to be authentic to that in the face of a famous wealthy attractive older man. It seems very easy to lose one's self.

    Clearly I've got something stuck in my craw about this. My soapbox has been retired for the day

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    you_will's picture

    well....

    everyone sees things differently but there are some older/much younger relationships that can last for a whole....person's life or marriage or however you wanna term it.

    One example being Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall (i'm an old hollywood nerd, sorry) - - i mean, damn....that was a hellll of an age difference...oh, yeah...another crazy age difference would be Loretta Lynn and her husband...they got married when she was like 13 and he was 25 or something...anyways, they had ups and downs, went through hell and back and anyway....their marriage lasted till his death in the.....late 90's or something.

    ...but like i said...we all have different experiences and whatnot. it's all good. :-)

     

     

    hexenking's picture

    Age-ism

    I agree with Liz.  I've known older people (in fact, all my life) who know less and are less wise than young people.  And I know young people who don't have a clue.  I always say there are two  broad general types of people in the world:  those who grow and learn as the years go by, and those that basically reach a mental position in their mid 20s and never change.  It strikes me as very dangerous to be making broad assumptions about people on the basis of age.  It also strikes me as sad that we gay people, who have been stereotyped so commonly, want to turn around and stereotype others.  And lastly, it strikes me as unfair to try to diminish the love of a couple we don't know at all.  Who knows who challenges whom, and how?  If they're in love, I'm very happy for them, and wish them the best.

    It's hard to go wrong by adopting the attitude that age is just a number.  Treat and react to everyone as an individual and we'll be much better off.

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    netogeno's picture

    Here, here!!!

    Here, here!!!
    dannydc's picture

    Oh contrare Brock

    I have never been one to shy away from controversial posts of my own as you may or may not know. I am in TOTAL agreement with you on this T.R. latest news. When all this happened after Washington called him that "F" word, it did indeed do wonders for his career. Did anyone acually know just who the hell he was before this? He's not exactly what one would call box office even yet. I know when he was on Ellen's show shortly after this firestorm, he was extremely nervous and very consious that the word was "out" for sure on his orientation. The age difference may come back to haunt him down the road. His partner may be in it for his own gains for all we know. I see a trainwreck in their future because this realtionship ain't gonna last. I wish them the best, but...   

    I have never been called evil, but if you and I are going to hell, doubtful we'll be there by ourselves. lol...

    Gwen's picture

    Brock and Danny, TR

    Brock and Danny,

    TR would never call himself perfect or a role-model. Then again some role-models are far from perfect. I preface strongly I'm not comparing him to Harvey Milk. However, Milk's main relationship were with men much younger than he many of whom were volatile. Towards the end of his life Milk didn't believe in monogamy and thought it was an oppressive heterosexist structure. Once again I'm not equating TR with Milk but simply stating one's personal conduct shouldn't automatically be used to condemn a person.

    "Did anyone actually know who the hell he was before this?"

    Obviously, as the paparazzi took pics of him and Luke MacFarlane shopping on, at least, two separate occassions before the onset altercation. They weren't chasing Luke. TR profile rose with the popularity of Grey's Anatomy, of which he garnered fan approval and critical praise. After the end of the second season Entertainment Weekly and TV Guide highly recommended him for an Emmy nomination. Maybe neither of you followed Grey's Anatomy it doesn't mean he was a completely obscure nothing.

    In the wake of the incident he gave one short answer to People.com in October:

    "I guess there have been a few questions about my sexuality, and I'd like to quiet any unnecessary rumors that may be out there. While I prefer to keep my personal life private, I hope the fact that I'm gay isn't the most interesting part of me."

    His appearance on Ellen was January after Washington denied ever using the slur and then repeated in full during a backstage interview. TR would refute this. Yes, he was nervous and it was a difficult subject for him but it wasn't about his orientation.

    Relatively speaking he could've given more interviews but he's a shy person by nature and is just coming out of his shell.

    I'm not here to convert you to being his fan but I disagree with a sense of him as someone unworthy of mention in afterelton or at all. He achieved acclaim on stage and in role as George O'Malley before coming out and has received a well-deserved Emmy nomination. You may not like his work, his looks, nor his choice of boyfriend that doesn't mean others can't admire him.

    When it comes down to it some these arguments can be said about actors you do like. For example, I've read blogs ask who the hell is Luke MacFarlane and why should we care he came out? Others reduce him to "TR Knight's ex-boyfriend" and said he owes his career entirely to TR since it's the latters fans who flocked to Brothers and Sisters to see him. I don't subscribe to this view as I think Luke is talented but that's far from a universal opinion. Just ask Eric Winter fans.

    When you judge someone the harsh reviews can just as easily be leveled at you or your favorite actors. That's why don't bother with those I'm not interested in. I'd rather praise the ones I enjoy than resent the attention given to those I don't.

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    zanefan's picture

    It's all well and good to

    It's all well and good to say "oh, we should judge everyone as an individual" but that doesn't mean checking your experience and gut instincts at the door.  Seriously, if this were a couple of friends of mine, I'd be shaking my head and waiting for the disaster to happen. 

    They've known each other for, like, 10 minutes.  And now they might be thinking of having kids?  That's not smart, no matter WHAT the age difference is.

     

     

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    hexenking's picture

    No one's suggesting that

    No one's suggesting that anyone check their experience and instincts at the door.  What I personally am saying is that we shouldn't judge others' choices in boyfriends solely on the basis of age, without knowing anything else.  For all we know TR is enraptured with Mark's youth, and isn't thinking clearly.  On the other hand, for all we know they are perfectly suited and he's making a wise decision based on the individucal involved.  We have no way of knowing, and so we shouldn't rush to any judgments.  Especially when age is such a totally unreliable predictor of development and maturity.  Further, let's say for the sake of argument he is making a mistake.  Even then, who are we to insert ourselves into his affairs and judge him?  We all make mistakes, and for the wise among us they're opportunities to learn.  But the bottom line is that we don't know the story or the people involved.

    We also shouldn't rush to assume he's about to have kids.  The article clearly states that he is THINKING of having them SOMEDAY.  That's a far cry from he and Mark being in the final stages of adoption.  I like the last predictive sentence of the article:   "This conjecture travels and warps quickly. I guarantee that what started as T.R. to attend charity function with boyfriend will eventually morph into T.R. and boyfriend to marry & adopt Cambodian conjoined twins."

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    "Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

    afhickman

    "It takes a village (to make Village People)"

    Implying that T. R. Knight is old at age 36 or whatever is just bizarre.  At that age, I still think of him as a kid.  The 30s are that comfortable stage in life when you think you have it all figured out and then, wham, you're suddenly forty, and you start losing your eyesight and your hearing and you think everyone's looking at your bald spot.  Jack Benny refused to age beyond 39, and I think he had the right idea.  If only one's pores and one's waistline (not to mention gravity) would cooperate.  Then you hit fifty, you have your first heart attack, and everything you thought you knew about life flies right out the door.  I don't know what to think about turning sixty, but it's bound to be another adventure: "His youthful hose well shav'd, a world too wide for his shrunk shank," as Jacques says in "As You Like It."  Just for fun, though, I'd still like to have a 19-year-old in my life--not for anything untoward, mind you--but to keep on top of the latest slang.     

    Gwen's picture

    First and foremost as

    First and foremost as Snicks so sarcastically stated in his conclusion all this is simply rumor and conjecture. If anyone bothered to read the OK! article TR is debunking another rumor. About a month ago photos of TR and Mark strolling about in Los Feliz suddenly morphed into the two were house hunting. Those of us who were fans know TR bought a large home prior to ever meeting Mark.

    In reviewing the statement about adoption it sounds rather disconnected from the last topic and is probably an answer to a question the writer didn't bother to elucidate to the readers. Notice he's also using "I" instead of "we," which indicates it's a general thought and not a concrete plan, especially in regards to Mark. The whole tone sounds tentative.

    As for the "marriage" the only solid fact declared is TR is hosting the event and Marc Malkin on E!Online spread the speculation the two were to be bethrothed and the blogosphere have repeated it.

    On the subject of the age difference I'm disturbed about the Victorian views on 18-19 years olds being automatically seen as pliant, empty vessel without agency and their older lovers as predatory. In some nations in Europe in the wake of decriminalization of sodomy laws discriminatory age of consent laws were enacted for gay male sex using the same rationale. Britain placed the age for lawful gay sex at 18-2 years above that for straights-and Spain had it at 21-about 5 years above that for straights.

    Strangely the US has been lucky states haven't decided to take this route after the Lawrence decision. With some of these arguments I wouldn't surprise if this is the next course of action.

    Who challenges whom? According to Mark's bio he parted ways with his conservative Christian family at 16 so I doubt he'll have a problem dealing with the mild-mannered TR. He is 35 not 36 as the writer reported.

    http://www.matthewshepard.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Our_Story_Yth_Advisory_Council

    I have friends who've met TR in those charity capacities and found him to be a humble and genuine person. One definitely remembers TR as admiring gay youth who brave hostile home and school environments as out people. When I look at his praise of Mark I hear that appreciation.

    Also while TR has been out privately his acknowledging of his homosexuality almost 2 years ago is a second coming out as a public persona and is becoming more politically involved within the community. That mindset is in attuned to many of the gay college students so that maybe another way he became attracted to Mark.

    Personally, I wouldn't advice him to marry at this time but if he does I would hope he is fully informed about Mark. Ultimately I'm not his keeper, his mother nor do I wish to be. Plenty of my favorite celebs are in destructive relationships (eg Sean Penn-Robin Wright) but I still appreciate their work and, in many cases, them as individuals. I just hope for the best for him. 

     

    LoTr1985's picture

    We give as good as we get

    I am so disgusted by this entire topic of the age difference between T.R. and his boyfriend and the view of his relationship.

    First, it's completely asinine to assume that someone as young as Mark cannot completely understand, value, and want this relationship simply because of his age.  Second, the article clearly states that T.R. wants kids "someday" and that the tabloids love taking a small incline and making it into Mt. Everest (i.e., Mark and T.R. are getting married when they're probably just going to a charity event).  Lastly, who the hell are we to judge anyone's relationship, especially given the fact that we don't know them?  Nobody has any idea what has attracted these two to each other (except for when they speak of each other and T.R. has stated that he loves Mark for how genuine he is and how big his heart is) and it's beyond ridiculous to assume that "your experience" somehow provides you with some kind of insight into how this relationship functions and/or how it will all play out.  Even if they break up, no one will know if age was a factor or something else.  How dare anyone assume that they know these two just b/c we see them in the media!!  Being young doesn't make a damned bit of difference in how you function in a relationship; it's about maturity and life experience.  I know a lot of 40 year old men who act like they're 12 and 18 year old men who hold down a full-time job and go to school. 

    I raised my brother when I was a child myself, have worked full-time since I was 14, took care of my family (including an alcoholic mother, a grandmother with Alzheimer's, and a little brother) all the while still learning how to write cursive.  I have paid my own bills and have been on my own my entire life and I was more mature @ 18 than my professors at college who were well into their 40's.  There's a lot of gull to start stereotyping on the basis of age when there's too much f*cking stereotyping going on with everything else.  

    We hate the stereotypes of the gay community but I guess we give as good as we get huh?       

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