At this point, I'm hoping they all get locked up for trying to pull off this sham.

And by "they" I mean whoever concocted this storyline.

I just realized that the thing that is most offensive about this entire storyline is that it really exploits the boys being gay in a negative way.

Because seriously, what if Luke were a female ("Lucy"?).  What would be the expected reaction if a man who was seriously dating a woman turned around and proclaimed his intention to marry a different woman because she needed a green card?

Somehow I expect there'd be outrage (in character and from the audience).  If a man's in love with a woman he does not go and marry another woman, regardless of how badly the other woman needs to get married.  The girlfriend being asked to stand aside and allow this to happen would be either expected to throw a major fit or else be branded stupid for allowing her guy to marry someone else.

Is it assumed to be different because Noah and Luke are gay and therefore can't get married (unless they move a short distance to the north and live in Canada)?  Given that he hasn't even had sex with Noah yet is Luke expected to just assume that Noah won't do something with his new wife?  Right now Noah's gayness exists only as a verbal statement and a few brief kisses.  In order for Noah's marriage to Ameera to pass as real they're going to have to live together, have joint finances and know enough about each other to get through an interrogation by the Immigration people.  Are we to assume that Luke is okay being the "mistress"?

And I do have to agree with the question above, why does Noah need to write any vows?  Most wedding ceremonies (civil and religious) follow a standard format and don't require the bride and groom to do much beyond agree with whoever is officiating.  Writing vows is for couples who want to make their wedding "special".

Would this lame storyline even fly with the audience if it were Noah and Lucy?!

How can one call the recent storyline of Nuke and Ameera a double standard? Have you been watching soaps for long or just because of the Nuke storyline? Because if you are a fan of daytime and not just of Nuke you’d know that they do this sort of thing all the time. There have been marriages of connivances, marriages as a business arrangement and so on. One that comes to mind was a few years ago on General Hospital. Where Chloe, who was in love with Jaxs, married Ned, who was in love with Alexis, and to add to it, Alexis, who was in love with Ned, married Jaxs, who was in love with Chloe; both marriages were of connivances. This is just like the Nuke marriage storyline just subtract one of the women and have the two guys be in love with each other and then add a green card to the mix to spice it up and there you go! And just to finish my point the two woman and men were just fine with the marriages because they knew that there was no love involved.

Now while I do agree that if it was Lucy and Noah there would be way more kisses then there have been. But if this “Lucy” was just like Luke in the since that she would be just as kind and understanding the way Luke is, then I honestly believe that she would go a long with the marriage just the way Luke has. I believe this because I’ve seen happen many times on soaps. So there is no gay double standard in regard to this current Nuke storyline. The only double standard I see is the fact that we have a couple on daytime who’ve confessed that they love each other and but only have kissed on screen twice.  

Dude, it's a soap opera.  If Luke were "Lucy" she'd be plotting to have Ameera kidnapped, committed to an insane asylum, deported immediately, arrested on unsubstantiated charges of opium smuggling, poisoned, killed in a car wreck or at least have a cat fight with her.

Meekly standing aside and allowing the wedding?  Absolutely un-f*cking believable.

That one is unique to this scenario because Noah and Luke can't get married in Illinois.  But you saw how pained he was when Noah actually said "Will you marry me?" to Ameera (which is when the abduction/deportation/murder plot would have begun had he been Lucy).

Which adds another question.  In addition to writing vows, why did Noah even need to formally say "Will you marry me?" if this is just an immigration sham marriage.  Usually a proposal is not required for those beyond "So you wanna get married so you can get a green card"?  Because you know Ameera didn't hear that proposal as a pragmatic immigration step any more thank Luke did.

BTW Campion, I'm not expecting any Canada references soon.  So far they haven't even managed to address the fact that this whole marriage scheme is utterly illegal and that in the real world the Feds would never fall for it.  We can't expect rationality here, otherwise Nuke would have already switched to a Canadian university and be engaged.  It's like 200 friggin' miles from home.  Not like it would be a major deal.

Frankly, this is a double-standard because, let's face it, it goes along with the belief that a lot of people hold that gay relationships aren't "real".  And Nuke really do come across that way.  They're not a couple.  Noah is fully-prepared to do something that he knows will hurt Luke, and Luke is allowing it because he's a sap.  They're play-acting at being a couple.  Luke can't even protest too loudly or do anything of the things a normal soap opera bitch would do because he's a neutered gay character whose sole purpose on the show is to be a lost puppy.

Now Noah, the love of his life, is marrying some chick who came out of nowhere under absurdly suspicious circumstances without any regard for the impact this will have on their relationship and all Luke can do is be supportive.  Because he's a neutered puppy.  And Noah is actually bisexual and will probably have Ameera pregnant before summer.

And we haven't even really gotten to see them as a real couple yet.  So don't tell me there's no double standard!

For all the reasons others here and in related entries have already so eloquently put forth, I'm rapidly losing any interest in Nuke, which is a pity, because I genuinely like the two actors involved.

I'm going off for a week of skiing and likely won't have any opportunity to watch the show on tv or even via YouTube clips. I guess I'll see if there's anything worth catching up on in a week's time.

I’m not going to get into the long explanation as to whether or not “Lucy” would let Noah merry Ameera or go after her, because that would depend on whether she was the “bad girl” character or the “good girl” character, because all characters on operas fall under the good girl/boy or bad girl/boy category. And since Luke is considered a good guy character of course he’s going to let Noah merry Ameera. Will he be tortured because of it; yes, that’s usually part of being the good character, they’re often tortured by their very own good deeds. Personally, I like the reformed bad girl character because they still retain a little bit of their bitchy nature.

As for the proposal, I really think that Noah was just being cute; I mean he asked her in a matter-of-fact sort of way. It wasn’t like he got down on one knee and had a ring. I’m not sure about vows, because I haven’t seen that part yet, but I’m sure it’s done as way to add authenticity to the wedding as I’m sure the Feds will be paying attention to it. But I’m sure Noah will be writing them with Luke in mind.

I really don’t know how you can make that giant leap from Noah marrying Ameera to the meaning that the show doesn’t view Nuke as a “real” couple. Because of the fact that they have something/someone come in to kind of screw with their relationship means that they are a real couple, because as we know couples in daytime are never happy all the time; there’s always something coming over the horizon to screw with them. This is what it means to be a daytime couple and the fact that now Nuke is going their own trials and tribulations, tells me that ATWT is treating them as a “real” couple. Could the people over at ATWT do a better job handling them; yes, I’m going to refute that. But they’ve also done some amazing things with them as well, Friday’s episode they told each other that they loved each other!    

Bottom line is that P&G and ATWT are doing the best job that they can within the bounds of their medium. Let’s face it, weather you like or not the simple fact is that gay couples are still a taboo subject. And some of the best representations of good quality, fully developed gay characters and couples have been on either primetime (after 10 pm) or on cable. The fact of the matter is that even though daytime is filled with straight people jumping in and out each other’s beds, this is still a very conservative medium.

This is a medium that is very slow to change especially with taboo subjects, daytime has been in existents now for about 70 or 80 years and it took them until the 80s until they saw their first black super couple in Angie and Jesse Hubert on All My Children, at one point writers couldn’t write a fully developed rap storyline and they still have a hard time selling an abortion story.

Now we have another first, the first gay male couple and with them being the first, of course the storyline isn’t going to be the way we want it and of course it’s going to be met with an upset from the conservative crowed. Because P&G and ATWT are trying to do the impossible; appease both sides. But the thing about change is that eventually it will be accepted. Even though daytime used to be as white as white can be, it now sports many shades of color, (though some shows more than others!) and even though I can count the number of gay characters on one hand, one day I know that we will have many gay characters on many different shows.

The point I want to stress is that when you’re the first, when you’re the only one it’s never easy and it’s hard as hell, believe me I know. What we need to do is to look beyond this one subject and look at daytime as a hole and look at past storylines that were that were the first of its kind. If you do, you’ll see that the Nuke storyline does fit the pattern. And that is any storyline that is the first of its kind is always met with resistance, always fail to live up to the target audiences’ expectations and is always eventually accepted and blended into the medium.

You may not like the way P&G and ATWT are handling Nuke now, but think about the fact that they are paving the way so that the Nuke of the next generation will have a much easier time.

Thank You Anthony! That was exactly what I was getting at. People who’ve watched soaps for a long time know that with any given storyline you’re not going to be 100% happy with it 100% of the time. There’s always going to be some aspect of the storyline that you don’t like or agree with. The same is true for Nuke; there have been parts that I loved and parts that I hated. I also agree that ATWT has shot themselves in the foot with some aspect of Nuke. However, ATWT should be given their dues for even going there in the first place and for the most part they haven’t and one of my fears is that when it comes time for another show to create a new character and possible make them gay, someone would remind them of all the heat ATWT received from both sides and not even bother. And that would be such a shame.

But I will continue to be a ATWT fan and a Nuke fan besides, from watching soaps for as long as I have, I’m used to loving a storyline one day, hating it the next just to love all over again, this is what it means to be a soap fan gentlemen!   

..... one hand I do think that people had every right to be upset and I commend those who fought the good fight. On the other, they had to know that the end result might be P&G just putting an end to the whole mess by dumping the couple, which is exactly what I think they will do. I wouldn't be surprised if the show just backburnered the couple until Van's contract is up and then in May, brought then off the stove long enough to get Noah out of this marriage and send the boys off on that backpacking trip Noah talked about when Luke was paralyzed.

I think that those who thought P&G would cave and give them what they wanted were living in a fantasy land, but it doesn't mean the campaign should have never happened nor that it wasn't the right thing to do. But I just think it's become too much for the show to deal with. Like one of the higher ups at the show said, "usually when fans are upset about a story, they send letters of complaint, they don't go to the media." And maybe this will make it eaiser for the next gay couple in daytime.... if someone chose to stick their hand in that paticular fire again.

And I don't suppose Luke will get to throw Noah a very special, very exclusive bachelor party, either?

I expect the vow-writing scenes to be especially frustrating. I'm thinking that the reason Luke is helping out is because he's putting himself in Ameera's position. As he did with the Invisible Girl thing, writing from a girl's perspective to work out his feelings towards Noah, he'll put all his own sad hopes and dreams into these vows. I almost guarantee you there'll even be a line where Luke tells Noah this is what he would want to hear. You know, if he were ever allowed to marry Noah or any guy himself.

Did you get this information from the same source who told you that Luke and Noah would have sex on on New Year's eve?

And that there would be a kiss at Christmas?

And that they would kiss before Ameera arrived?

And that Kevin was coming back for an all-boy triangle?

Perhaps, from the Beautiful Prose message board, where "rumors" are supposed to be kept on that board only, lest people lose their membership? Is that your source, by any chance?

that even though Noah has asked Ameera matter of factly if she wants to marry him, she answered as if it was a real proposal: Yes, I will marry you.

As for all of them getting 'locked up for trying to pull off this sham.' (HenryZ) I have to admit that my fantasy is starting to go wild at the thought of Noah and Luke in a cell together. At least they'll have a room and nobody could disturb them anymore.

Actually, this was meant in no way whatsoever to be an attack on BP, but on your abuse of their trust in spreading misinformation.

And I have never been a member of that board, so I was certainly not ever banned from it.  I have friends who are members, though and they do not appreciate the way you have misused the information you learned there.

Now, back to Luke and Noah. . .

Dare we dream that this wedding won't take place?

Watched the preview for tomorrow's show and it has Lily coming into the kitchen to announce that Ameera is gone and can't be found.

I started watching this soap whenI was younger, and stopped when I went off to college. I started watching it again when I heard about the whole Nuke storyline and thought how exciting! I'm so happy that they started this. But since I have been watching it, I agree with just about everything everyone has said about the recent crap they have been doing to NUKE.

The thing is that watching this it is just so insulting to us. The thing that pisses me off, although CBS claims that they are not holding them back, is that no one is even thinking of the producers having a hand in destroying this storyline. I agree that Valentine's was the last straw, but now they are marrying off Noah? WTF is that! It's insulting because no gay man would marry a stranger when they can't even marry the person they love. So unblievebly insulting to us to even suggest that we would rather be married and marry a stranger than the one person in this world that we would like the to opportunity to finally marry and share what all othe hetero Americans take for granted.

And now that Martha Byrne (Lily) is leaving too, I doubt that I will continue watching. I had hoped that at the last minute Luke would have either stopped the wedding or that the writers would have stopped it and come to their senses.

Sad :(