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Should AE be doing a video blog or recapping American Idol on a weekly basis?

The is not a leading question, but simply me thinking out loud on whether weekly focus of the show itself meets the "news, reviews & commentary of gay and bisexual men in entertainment in media" the defines AE.

On one hand AI is the highest-rated show on television, enjoyed by many gay men, has showcased contestants who have subsequently come out, and most importantly there is enough periodic homophobia to more than warrant calling it out as it happens.

On the other hand, AI has never had an out gay or bisexual contestant during its run, this site is quite respectful of not speculating on anyone's sexuality, and most weeks AI certainly does not have a Danny Noriega or a gay stripper angle to it.

As I write this, I am thinking that the site should not cover the show unless something specific happens which merits attention, such as a contestant coming out mid-show or any homophia that goes beyond the usual Simon/Ryan shtick.

Also, at the risk of sounding a little soft, could one not argue that the site is being complicit undermining all that it does so well by supporting a show that seems to want to pretend that gay men don't exist, or make fun of those male contestants exhibiting non-traditional gender expression?

Much ado about nothing, sleeping with the enemy, or keeping your friends close and your (potential) enemies closer? I have not watched the show regularly since the second season, so this more a food for thought question than something that will keep me up at night.

dennis's picture

have to disagree with you

Hey Guillermo - it's a fair point you raise but American Idol is by fay the biggest phenomenon on television today and yes it even has gay fans (count me among them). Sure, it hasn't exactly been gay-inclusive in the past, but the reason why we decided to run Idol Chat this year was because one of the few out gay finalists - Jim Verraros, was interested in doing it and we figured he'd be best positioned to cover whatever gay angles there might be - and in fact this year they've had a lot of gay angles thus far.

Sure, David Hernandez and Danny Noriega are now gone, but if a GLBT angle is paramount to you no doubt some new gay flap or brouhaha will hit next week. And ultimately, AfterElton.com is a very big tent - running the Idol Chat video blog in no way prevents us from coverage of other entertainment more narrowly targeted to gays and lesbians. Anyway, that's my two cents. Really curious what other AfterElton.com readers think.

springintoaction's picture

American Idol as the anti AfterElton: Blogging versus watching

Hey Dennis – We don’t disagree on any the basic facts about American Idol. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that AI is probably the only remaining water-cooler show (to both gays and straights) to be found in an increasingly fragmented entertainment universe.

The simple question (which might not have a simple answer) is not whether running Idol Chat is standing in the way of covering other entertainment more narrowly targeted to gay men, but, for reasons highlighted below, whether AI in particular should be getting any breezy exposure here at AfterElton. 

That question gains mo relevance to me if one takes into account that the show seems to be working as hard as it can to create the illusion that not one of its contestants or hosts is gay, that the host and lead judge perpetually call out one another on their alleged gayness/lack of masculinity, and that male contestants are told that when they sound/look “girly,” it’s a bad thing. While the latter is not only wrong as proven by many successful musical acts, we live in a world in which those associations hurt those who are different and reinforce the idea to  the millions watching that being left of center is bad.

The above message contradicts the message of tolerance that is the current flavor of the month. I hope that the flavor stays on the menu and not just because of Lawrence King as there are cases as sad as his happening every single day. His was going to be burried until certain elements came together but that is for another post. Is AI legally responsible for the bullying for takes place in schools every single day? Absolutely not, but by creating a universe in which there are no gay people and those who act “gay” or told not to or ridiculed, it seems to be the anti-After-Elton, so why honor it with fun coverage? 

I have not been a fan of AI for a while, but not because of any the intellectual questions/concerns that I am bringing up here. I actually watch a ton of crap that may be worse than AI, but I don’t come to AE expecting to have it covered, as currently being done with  AI. Most showson TV, including AI, clearly don’t meet the basic current AE standards for coverage. It does not mean that we can't enjoy them, including AI. As The World Turns only gets covered here on Nuke days, and with regard to reality TV, only those having active gay participation and a little something extra get the nod. Given AE's gay-centric focus, I think that AI has a long way to go before getting the promotion that it is currently enjoying here. There are hundreds of others doing already, but they don't have the sexual orientation barometer to contend with as we do.

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rschlem's picture

AI does get plenty of coverage on AE


AI is often actively homophobic but so are plenty of shows AE wouldn't even consider covering on a regular basis. (Homophobia is rampant in sports coverage) Gay and perceived gay contestants do appear on the show from time to time, but those issues are covered in the best gay week ever and the briefs where there's plenty of room for commentary. I feel that "news, reviews & commentary" about AI is well covered on AE.

There's this forum, which proves there is a place at AE for any topic concerning gay AI comments. That's plenty. I don't see how having separate coverage would be any more productive other than give AI credit for things that aren't gay related.

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Evan's picture

Straight Southern American Idol

I like Jim Verraros (and Penny).  I think he's talented and I want him to succeed.  Unfortunately I have a deep aversion to American Idol.  I stopped watching the show after the fifth season auditions.  People were auditioning just to become the next William Hung, the talent went down, the derogatory remarks about LGBT people got old and every winner was bound to be from the south.
michaelangelo163's picture

Jim is cute, but what on

Jim is cute, but what on earth does he know about music?  He was lucky enough to make the show in the first season when it was unknown and the pool of talent shallow at best.  And he had a good freakin' sob story.  He probably wouldn't make it past the initial audition phase now( and I'm talkin bout the  audition before the audition with the 3 judges.   

Their banter is comfortable but uninformative and shallow.  They say little to nothing about the music and their discussion of the gay scandal is almost nonexistent?  I get little more from Idol Chat than I do from Paula's inane rambling reviews of the  contestants.  Make it interesting for crying out loud.  Make it cattier.  Dish the dirt.  Or give me a review of a performance that actually says something. 

Jim is no more an expert on singing talent or American Idol than is George Bush on politics or rap music. 

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