I don't think it's either Van or Jake.... that would be a big shock if they were fired. However, it's not Jake since the actor in question is apparently on contract and Jake is not and Van JUST signed a new deal two months ago. My guess is that it's either Dylan Bruce (Chris) or Jon Prescott (Mike). Both are recasts that just aren't working. The only other person I'd choose would be Trent Dawson (Henry), simply because Henry has little story and no ties to Oakdale and the actor nearly quit earlier this year. OTOH, I have a feeling who it is might be a big surprise.
Since they tape several weeks in advance, we will probably know all the details well in advance of seeing it air.
I'm not sure I'd call either Chris or Mike major players. It could possibly be one of the old-timers who has voiced dissatisifaction with either the small amount of airtime they get, the crappy storylines they've been stuck in, or the way the producers have been behaving (like the way they acted toward Martha Byrne).
I'm going to venture a guess that it's Holden. No basis at all, just a wild, random guess.
No, we're not allowed to think of Oakdale without Holden! I handled Martha Byrne leaving, but Jon Hensely would be a different story. I think I would finally be done with this show after 20 odd years if he were fired. The actor just signed a new contract earlier this year so that would truly be a shock. I don't think it's him and I don't think it's any of the longtime vets. If it were an actor who complained a lot about story and the way the show is being run we'd see Micheal Park (Jack) being shown the door, but I don't think it's him either.
He's the son of the great avant-garde filmmaker Philippe Garrel and has become THE leading French actor in recent years. Check him out in his Dad's awesome May '68 movie Regular Lovers.
Arthur Rimbaud, Isidore Ducasse, Marcel Proust, Andre Gide, Henri de Montherlant, Jean Genet, Roland Barthes, Jacques Demy, Jacques Nolot, Andre Techine, Patrice Chereau.
It isn't about inventing Gayness, it's about being a great lover.
I remember seeing a French film revolving around a young boy, 10-13 and I was struck by how and how often the mother touched the boy in the film. She would caress his chin, or his arm and it is was sensuous not sensual. I don't think that Americans quite know the difference and are afraid to touch. (certainally they don't know the difference on ATWT.)
I think of American little boys who, in their mother's mind, are being prepared to be tough little spits, to rope a steer or make a killing on Wall Street. Or British, or German boys, standing in a military row. While the french boys are holding their grandmother's hand and feeling the soft wrinkles of skin.
... but the germans touch a lot too. Children kiss their parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/siblings all the time. All the people I know hug their parents and friends when they see them. I even hug my sis-in-law even though I can't stand her. lol I also know a lot of straight guys who hug when they meet, for women and gays it's almost imperative.
I so often see people crying in american soaps and I always wonder why the people around don't take that person in their arms. I guess american society isn't very physical because nobody over here would let someone in the same room cry without touching them. I still remember wondering why nobody took Luke in their arms when he was lying in hospital after Colonel Mayors attack.
And that's just what is shown in our soaps. So many people here are watching 'Verbotene Liebe' or 'Alles was zählt'. If you have a look outside of 'our' couples you'll notice a lot of touching and hugging, especially when somebody's not feeling good, but also when good things are happening.
For German girls the European kiss/kiss on the cheek is almost mandatory.
When I was in the US (in the South btw) what confused me the most that they are very friendly when they greet you, but they do this thing where they stand next to you and wrap their arm around your shoulder or your midriff (kinda like if they were posing for a picture) and that is refered to as a hug. Confused the heck out of me, because it seemed strange to me that you would go from meeting and facing somebody to move to their side to administer this hug.
That said, I don't think that the amount of hugging and touching in a culture has anything to do with the degree of gay acceptance or violence. Arab cultures or South Asian (India) cultures touch much more than any Europeans (men holding hands in public, groups of many children sleeping in the same bed as their parents into their teens) but that doesn't stop them from being fiercely homophobic and very violent.
"This just in: Another star has been fired from ATWT . Guess who? My lips are sealed!"
The show is doing poorly, so rather than get rid of the lousy producers, they fire an actor, usually a high paid actor. The next one in this long line of blood letting? My guess: Terri Colombino or Austin Peck. Their current story-line is about to wrap up and Peck has been critical of the show to the press. But I have to agree with what others have been saying. Two of my favorite actors, Marie Wilson and Roger Howarth, have been giving totally lackluster performances, as if they know the gig is up. I wouldn't be surprised to see eather on the chopping-block.
Anthony D. Langford wrote: "The actor/actress has apparently not been informed of the news so the name has not been released."
Where are you getting this tid-bit, or are you making that one up, too?
My guess for the mystery Poisoner? Craig Montgomery. I wonder if the new character, Brian, will be involved?
Nelson also offers this quote, which should be directed to the producers at ATWT.
"Soap opera is a story. It should be a continuing story, rather than disoriented, meaningless adventures." ~Search For Tomorrow’s Larry Haines.
The poisonings are all jewelry related, which points to Sofie. However, we've seen her corpse a lot, so it's not likely that she'll have come back from the dead. She could've set it all in motion before dying though--and the poisoned jewelry went to Alison and Gwen (who sent it to Barbara who loaned it to Meg), two people she hated from the adoption of her first bastard child.
Getting rid of Margo makes some sense--they are messing up her character badly with all of the irrational Emily hate, and they did that big anniversary show a couple of weeks ago so we'll care more when she goes off the deep end. Boo hiss.
Get rid of the producers and writers. Give the actors something decent to work with.
The show would never fire Howarth/Wilson. For some reason, there's a huge block of fans who love Howarth and he can do no wrong (much like Luke and Noah fans, actually). He's one of the CBS's biggest stars. If they fired him he'd hop right over to OLTL and they'd never risk that. As far as the acting.... that's how they ALWAYS are.
AP? No. TC? A possibility.
No, I didn't make up that tidbit (nor anything else). Branco posts regularly on the Envelope website where he said that. That's where this whole thing started.
The mystery poisoner is Dr. Rick Decker. The show is doing a big splashy adventure involving lots of charaters and action and a huge NYC location shoot. While it's another of their usual short arcs, it looks like it's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
No, Brian will not be involved. This plot arc, which will only run for about 2 or 3 weeks, will be over by the time he arrives in town. Though, I'm tired of this shows short arcs. What happened to long term story planning. It's amazing how much story this show eats through.
I was able to find the post on goldderbyforums.latimes.com by nbgemini, if that's Nelson Bronco. nbgemini says "MORE ON THE STORY IN NELSON RATINGS on MONDAY — This story is the news story of the year. It's way nastier than I thought."
Tvguide ca is an msn site, I could link you to his column but msn doesn't like you to link to thier pages for some reason, so we'll just have to waite till tomorrow to see if this is the biggest scoop of the year, or just Bronco's only scoop of the year.
The Dr. Rick Decker spoilers have been floating around for a while, it seems. The victums are connected to Sophie, but how is she conected to Drecker is what we'll find out. If it doesn't involve Nuke I flip flop, I am less interested at this point, I'd rather read a one line recap than watch the show.
I dissagree about Howarth and Wilson's acting, recent preformances were very lack luster, though I don't watch every show, I have seen scenes by them that were good, about as good as you see from the majority of soap actors. There are others I would sooner throw stones at.
Decker isn't connected to Sofie at all. Cole killed Sofie. That story wrapped up last Monday on one of the worst ATWT episodes I've seen in a long time. Dr. Decker's reign of terror is a new storyline, though it's a very short term storyline.
NB's reference to the 'news story of the year' isn't about ATWT's firing, it is believed, but about Days of our Lives, whose head writer just up and quit under a dark cloud.
What about the actress who plays Margo. They implied that she's about to do something drastic to Emily, so she may lose her mind and end up getting killed off. I remember when I was a kid, Margo was ATWT, it's hard to imagine the show without the character.
Maybe it will be the guy playing Paul, he's just so boring and uninteresting to watch.
I hope it isn't Mike. He's so pretty and he's a pretty good actor. But they clearly have no idea what to do with him. they need to find a story line for him Pronto. It would suck for Jon Prescott as he just moved to NY for the show.
Chris (Dylan Bruce) can go for all I care, his abs don't make up for being such a bad actor, and getting rid of Brad (Austin Peck) wouldn't be bad either. I still can't figure out if he's a horrible actor, or brilliant at playing an idiot. Brad and Katies storyline is backburnered, but Liberty just arrived on the scene, and as annoying as her relationship with Parker is, I don't think they are getting rid of her, and if Brad left, there is no reason for her to be there.
But then we don't know if they are getting rid of a character, like they did with Craig, or if they are recasting, like they did with Lily.
Speaking of, I hate what they have done to Lily. The new actress is fine enough, but Lily, to me at least, has just become this histrionic screaming pushing bulldog. She is so unpleasent, If I was Holden I would of left her for Carly and never looked back.
This may be blasphemous, but I much prefer Noelle Beck as an actress than Martha Byrne; Ms. Byrne's Lily was a whining, spoiled, arrogant (real arrogance) brat whereas Ms. Beck's Lily seems more like a soccer mom caught up in the midst of a nervous breakdown--I find the latter portrayal much more interesting to watch.
They keep firing the wrong people. Look if it ain't on the page it ain't on the stage. It's the writing team duh! How many actors do they need to fire before they finally figure this out.
Jean Passanante and Chris Goutman Dr. "Death" Decker as he has a beef with every person involved and/or the family members. He was history Babs, so I assume that Meg Ryan (Meg's married name, hee, hee) is getting poisoned by "accident, " but it still works as it pissed off Shrek Paul is Bab's kid. He was married to Susan so that explains all the Stewart women and I assume that Chris got the damn watch for protecting the screaming Ali-cat when they ran into one another last week.
This story is so lame that it would be almost funny that it was used to explain ALL the happenings in Oakdale for the past few years. Someone was poisoning the head writer on the show so what we've seen is a byproduct.
I just saw yesterday's show and did not check in at all yesterday, but I was fascinated that the writers were trying to be funny by having their poisoned victims act like nut-jobs; unfortunately, they acted almost like they do every day with the exception of H.L. getting so hot, sweaty, and that he ripped off ALL OF HIS CLOTHES, even undies. Good golf remote BTW...
Those who want or see a Sofie connection might also be on the something as Ms. Duran could be a Decker just like they decided to make Cherie Love be Noah's for no good reason.
This show is getting worse than any parody of Passions. I understand that even that mess is more progressive than ATWT as a couple of popular or at least "cult" lesbian characters got or will get married.
I am just waiting for the moment in which a syringe comes back into a storyline on ATWT.
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I had a small hope that this might be interesting, but yesterday's show removed all of those thoughts. It was pretty bad and some of the acting.... well, it was pretty bad. Not even Dylan Bruce tearing his clothes off made it interesting.
I think the only Sofie connection is that Meg will be seeing her ghost. I don't think she's a Decker or tied to him at all. I could be wrong... but that would make the writers more clever than I thought possible.
The only good thing about this mess is that it's a short arc and will only last a few weeks. But that only tells you that this show does not believe in long term planning. I have a feeling though that one reason for this blip of a story is that the show has made several changes in several of it's other longer term plots (thanks to the falling ratings) and needed something to keep on screen while they rework things.
as you seem to find water drops in a glass that I can't even see. Half empty would be too full for me. It seems like we (meaning most of us, even me, so not using "we" like an annoying doctor) are perpetually looking for excuses/possible reasons for what we are seeing and projecting a positive in play that we'll see later. It's as if recognizing that this is what it is can't compute, esp. if we've watched the show forever as it will mean that we have to make some tough choices.
The longest stories on this show are short arcs for some straights and Nukisodes. I actually see a trend to Nukicide (start and end something random in the same episode) as the show's new m.o.
The way that I think most people would keep something on the screen if you are planning something better and longer term would not be to make your audience laugh in shame. I can't conceive that a single person was not embarrassed to watch characters and their poisoned watch/bracelet/spray perfumes (matching set for mom & daughter)/and the red herring: Meg's pop rock. Maybe in rock form it only makes you faint.... No sweat, redness, clothes removal. Can you imagine when the actor who plays Chris Hughes got his script that day? OMF.
I do have to give a thumbs up again for the golf remote, Bob's sporty sunglasses, and the rapid menu-based insults. Tender lamb or leathered steak.... Margo is turning into one scary b@tch.
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Because of budget constraints on "As The World Turns" Mike Kasnoff will be leaving Oakdale at the end of August.
I'd
like to express my gratitude to the entire cast, crew, and production
team who have made this an irreplaceable experience. I have been
privileged to be a part ATWT and this concludes an invaluable
education. Most importantly, thank you to the fans who have been
energetic supporters of both Mike Kasnoff and the show as a whole. I
view my departure as a positive step forward. Stay tuned as I share my
next creative challenge with you shortly.
There are so many really worthless actors on the show, they couldn't fire one of them?
But I guess it makes sense, because he's just been treading water since Katie's wedding. Why would they bring a character back if they had no idea what to do with him.
Goutman and the head writer need to be fired immediately. Any one of us could turn that sinking ship around in no time (sorry for the mixed metaphors).
The poor actor never had a chance as there was no reason for the character to come back with the exception of his wedding-interruptus and aborted Meg love interest. If casting agents, writers, and executive producers would work together this show would limit its bad calls as it was a bad casting choice (IMHO) and there was next to no plan as to what to do with him. Did they not learn a damn thing after bringing Ro back without a concrete game plan? At least if they'd brought a good Mike and did not limit Ro's comeback for anything other than a forced love quadrangle that no one gave a damn about.....
Talk about wasting money in these desperate times? Don't hire any characters not vital to any mid-term plans and keep cleaning house and not just with actor and the audience could benefit from writing and producing cost reductions....
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For a lot of this to make sense. And even though I was watching daily back then, even I have memory lapses, so forgive me.
Basically, lonely Susan went to a conference and met a doctor (Ric Decker) who lavished attention on her and acted...well, too good to be true. A patient at Oakdale Memorial mysteriously died shortly after she returned, but prior to his arrival in Oakdale--he showed up and wanted to get a job at the hospital. Bob hired him, and Chris (who was a new staffer) started dating/seeing Alison (working as a hospital volunteer). On an almost weekly basis some off-screen patient died, and suspicions fell on several people; Decker was less likely because the first patient died before his (supposed) arrival. Chris and Ali were suspicious of Decker and didn't like the way he was snowing Susan all the time. An intern on staff stumbled on the truth and Decker killed him, letting viewers know for sure he was going around injecting people with something. When Bob got too close to the truth (he FINALLY did a background check, I believe), Decker tried to kill HIM the same way, but Bob just went into a coma for the remainder of the storyline. When Decker conned Susan into getting married, there was this hilarious bit where Decker started seeing visions of Bob in the room, with Bob "threatening to tell all". Still, they married, and Decker decided he had to get rid of Alison and Chris. He later attacked Alison with the syringe and Chris saved the day. They carted Decker off to the booby hatch, and Bob later recovered.
About a year later, Barbara got committed to the same loony bin, and he tried that same "Love you to death" stuff on her, but she managed to elude his murderous streak. He tried to kill her one minute, declared his undying love the next.
So when Alison, Chris, and Barbara received poisoned jewelry shortly after his re-appearance, it was about as obvious as a bad hairpiece. They were all responsible for his downfall(s) in the past. I happen to like a bit of camp with my soap operas, as long as it doesn't become a Days-like cartoon, so I like it as a distraction from the immense sucking noise coming from the Paul/Meg story.
...as fabulolus and flaming as a toaster oven soaring across the night sky....:-)
This may have been the beginning of the "syringe" becoming the official to go "accessory" when the writers have nothing to say. In the old days it was tea, not its injections baby!!!!
I am glad that you made reference to the Bob part of the Decker background as it was hilarious as there were murders on a daily basis as Alison AND (Katie - let's not forget her) were nurses aids and the show had more stereo screams per episode by these two sirens than the sum of the new genre on snuff films trying to pass themselves as horror flicks.
Your recap reminded me of Barbara being in the nuthouse after they wrote her character into a wall, literally as I remember a great scene in which she dives out of a window of the HUGE courthouse set, somehow gets her hands on a pimped out El Camino vehicle, which she proceeds to use to drive THROUGH the courthouse. Cult!!!! Camp can work, but this is so lame. They should just re-use the Rose/Emily/Carly get sent to the spa dialogue/storyline if they want to make us laugh and even cry a little.
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BTW....
Please, NOT Henry! He's one
Weeks
Since they tape several weeks in advance, we will probably know all the details well in advance of seeing it air.
I'm not sure I'd call either Chris or Mike major players. It could possibly be one of the old-timers who has voiced dissatisifaction with either the small amount of airtime they get, the crappy storylines they've been stuck in, or the way the producers have been behaving (like the way they acted toward Martha Byrne).
I'm going to venture a guess that it's Holden. No basis at all, just a wild, random guess.
Jon Hensely?
Let's replace Nuke with THESE dudes --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir3s3WzZTRU
Dreamers
Yup, if you're going to "Just Kiss" that's certainly the way to do it. Thanks for sharing the clip.
BTW, was the dark-haired guy the same guy who played the brother in "The Dreamers"?
How come the French know how?
How come the french know how to do it and the Americians don't have a clue?
If ATWT were to do a scene like that with Luke and Noah, I would foregive every transgression in past and future.
Unfortunatly, you just raised the bar in my mind, and I don't know if I will ever belive one of Van and Jakes weird kisses again.
Yes, that's Louis Garrel
The French know how because they invented gayness
Arthur Rimbaud, Isidore Ducasse, Marcel Proust, Andre Gide, Henri de Montherlant, Jean Genet, Roland Barthes, Jacques Demy, Jacques Nolot, Andre Techine, Patrice Chereau.
And yes, this WILL be on the Final!
I do have a theory for that
It isn't about inventing Gayness, it's about being a great lover.
I remember seeing a French film revolving around a young boy, 10-13 and I was struck by how and how often the mother touched the boy in the film. She would caress his chin, or his arm and it is was sensuous not sensual. I don't think that Americans quite know the difference and are afraid to touch. (certainally they don't know the difference on ATWT.)
I think of American little boys who, in their mother's mind, are being prepared to be tough little spits, to rope a steer or make a killing on Wall Street. Or British, or German boys, standing in a military row. While the french boys are holding their grandmother's hand and feeling the soft wrinkles of skin.
Sorry to correct you...
... but the germans touch a lot too. Children kiss their parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/siblings all the time. All the people I know hug their parents and friends when they see them. I even hug my sis-in-law even though I can't stand her. lol I also know a lot of straight guys who hug when they meet, for women and gays it's almost imperative.
I so often see people crying in american soaps and I always wonder why the people around don't take that person in their arms. I guess american society isn't very physical because nobody over here would let someone in the same room cry without touching them. I still remember wondering why nobody took Luke in their arms when he was lying in hospital after Colonel Mayors attack.
And that's just what is shown in our soaps. So many people here are watching 'Verbotene Liebe' or 'Alles was zählt'. If you have a look outside of 'our' couples you'll notice a lot of touching and hugging, especially when somebody's not feeling good, but also when good things are happening.
Touching in different cultures
For German girls the European kiss/kiss on the cheek is almost mandatory.
When I was in the US (in the South btw) what confused me the most that they are very friendly when they greet you, but they do this thing where they stand next to you and wrap their arm around your shoulder or your midriff (kinda like if they were posing for a picture) and that is refered to as a hug. Confused the heck out of me, because it seemed strange to me that you would go from meeting and facing somebody to move to their side to administer this hug.
That said, I don't think that the amount of hugging and touching in a culture has anything to do with the degree of gay acceptance or violence. Arab cultures or South Asian (India) cultures touch much more than any Europeans (men holding hands in public, groups of many children sleeping in the same bed as their parents into their teens) but that doesn't stop them from being fiercely homophobic and very violent.
Suds Report
According to Nelson Branco's Suds Report
"This just in: Another star has been fired from ATWT . Guess who? My lips are sealed!"
The show is doing poorly, so rather than get rid of the lousy producers, they fire an actor, usually a high paid actor. The next one in this long line of blood letting? My guess: Terri Colombino or Austin Peck. Their current story-line is about to wrap up and Peck has been critical of the show to the press. But I have to agree with what others have been saying. Two of my favorite actors, Marie Wilson and Roger Howarth, have been giving totally lackluster performances, as if they know the gig is up. I wouldn't be surprised to see eather on the chopping-block.
Anthony D. Langford wrote:
"The actor/actress has apparently not been informed of the news so the name has not been released."
Where are you getting this tid-bit, or are you making that one up, too?
My guess for the mystery Poisoner? Craig Montgomery. I wonder if the new character, Brian, will be involved?
Nelson also offers this quote, which should be directed to the producers at ATWT.
"Soap opera is a story. It should be a continuing story, rather than disoriented, meaningless adventures." ~Search For Tomorrow’s Larry Haines.
Poisoner
The poisonings are all jewelry related, which points to Sofie. However, we've seen her corpse a lot, so it's not likely that she'll have come back from the dead. She could've set it all in motion before dying though--and the poisoned jewelry went to Alison and Gwen (who sent it to Barbara who loaned it to Meg), two people she hated from the adoption of her first bastard child.
Getting rid of Margo makes some sense--they are messing up her character badly with all of the irrational Emily hate, and they did that big anniversary show a couple of weeks ago so we'll care more when she goes off the deep end. Boo hiss.
Get rid of the producers and writers. Give the actors something decent to work with.
Not Howarth or Wilson
The show would never fire Howarth/Wilson. For some reason, there's a huge block of fans who love Howarth and he can do no wrong (much like Luke and Noah fans, actually). He's one of the CBS's biggest stars. If they fired him he'd hop right over to OLTL and they'd never risk that. As far as the acting.... that's how they ALWAYS are.
AP? No. TC? A possibility.
No, I didn't make up that tidbit (nor anything else). Branco posts regularly on the Envelope website where he said that. That's where this whole thing started.
The mystery poisoner is Dr. Rick Decker. The show is doing a big splashy adventure involving lots of charaters and action and a huge NYC location shoot. While it's another of their usual short arcs, it looks like it's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
No, Brian will not be involved. This plot arc, which will only run for about 2 or 3 weeks, will be over by the time he arrives in town. Though, I'm tired of this shows short arcs. What happened to long term story planning. It's amazing how much story this show eats through.
Nelson.
I was able to find the post on goldderbyforums.latimes.com by nbgemini, if that's Nelson Bronco. nbgemini says "MORE ON THE STORY IN NELSON RATINGS on MONDAY — This story is the news story of the year. It's way nastier than I thought."
Tvguide ca is an msn site, I could link you to his column but msn doesn't like you to link to thier pages for some reason, so we'll just have to waite till tomorrow to see if this is the biggest scoop of the year, or just Bronco's only scoop of the year.
The Dr. Rick Decker spoilers have been floating around for a while, it seems. The victums are connected to Sophie, but how is she conected to Drecker is what we'll find out. If it doesn't involve Nuke I flip flop, I am less interested at this point, I'd rather read a one line recap than watch the show.
I dissagree about Howarth and Wilson's acting, recent preformances were very lack luster, though I don't watch every show, I have seen scenes by them that were good, about as good as you see from the majority of soap actors. There are others I would sooner throw stones at.
Decker.....
Decker isn't connected to Sofie at all. Cole killed Sofie. That story wrapped up last Monday on one of the worst ATWT episodes I've seen in a long time. Dr. Decker's reign of terror is a new storyline, though it's a very short term storyline.
NB's reference to the 'news story of the year' isn't about ATWT's firing, it is believed, but about Days of our Lives, whose head writer just up and quit under a dark cloud.
hmm
What about the actress who plays Margo. They implied that she's about to do something drastic to Emily, so she may lose her mind and end up getting killed off. I remember when I was a kid, Margo was ATWT, it's hard to imagine the show without the character.
Maybe it will be the guy playing Paul, he's just so boring and uninteresting to watch.
I hope it isn't Mike. He's so pretty and he's a pretty good actor. But they clearly have no idea what to do with him. they need to find a story line for him Pronto. It would suck for Jon Prescott as he just moved to NY for the show.
Chris (Dylan Bruce) can go for all I care, his abs don't make up for being such a bad actor, and getting rid of Brad (Austin Peck) wouldn't be bad either. I still can't figure out if he's a horrible actor, or brilliant at playing an idiot. Brad and Katies storyline is backburnered, but Liberty just arrived on the scene, and as annoying as her relationship with Parker is, I don't think they are getting rid of her, and if Brad left, there is no reason for her to be there.
But then we don't know if they are getting rid of a character, like they did with Craig, or if they are recasting, like they did with Lily.
Speaking of, I hate what they have done to Lily. The new actress is fine enough, but Lily, to me at least, has just become this histrionic screaming pushing bulldog. She is so unpleasent, If I was Holden I would of left her for Carly and never looked back.
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I prefer the new Lily
This may be blasphemous, but I much prefer Noelle Beck as an actress than Martha Byrne; Ms. Byrne's Lily was a whining, spoiled, arrogant (real arrogance) brat whereas Ms. Beck's Lily seems more like a soccer mom caught up in the midst of a nervous breakdown--I find the latter portrayal much more interesting to watch.
geez....
why all the firing on ATWT? tsk.
Indeed!!
It's so obvious that the guilty party poisoning Oakdale is....
Jean Passanante and Chris GoutmanDr. "Death" Decker as he has a beef with every person involved and/or the family members. He was history Babs, so I assume that Meg Ryan (Meg's married name, hee, hee) is getting poisoned by "accident, " but it still works as it pissed offShrekPaul is Bab's kid. He was married to Susan so that explains all the Stewart women and I assume that Chris got the damn watch for protecting the screaming Ali-cat when they ran into one another last week.This story is so lame that it would be almost funny that it was used to explain ALL the happenings in Oakdale for the past few years. Someone was poisoning the head writer on the show so what we've seen is a byproduct.
I just saw yesterday's show and did not check in at all yesterday, but I was fascinated that the writers were trying to be funny by having their poisoned victims act like nut-jobs; unfortunately, they acted almost like they do every day with the exception of H.L. getting so hot, sweaty, and that he ripped off ALL OF HIS CLOTHES, even undies. Good golf remote BTW...
Those who want or see a Sofie connection might also be on the something as Ms. Duran could be a Decker just like they decided to make Cherie Love be Noah's for no good reason.
This show is getting worse than any parody of Passions. I understand that even that mess is more progressive than ATWT as a couple of popular or at least "cult" lesbian characters got or will get married.
I am just waiting for the moment in which a syringe comes back into a storyline on ATWT.
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My Tiny Hope....
I had a small hope that this might be interesting, but yesterday's show removed all of those thoughts. It was pretty bad and some of the acting.... well, it was pretty bad. Not even Dylan Bruce tearing his clothes off made it interesting.
I think the only Sofie connection is that Meg will be seeing her ghost. I don't think she's a Decker or tied to him at all. I could be wrong... but that would make the writers more clever than I thought possible.
The only good thing about this mess is that it's a short arc and will only last a few weeks. But that only tells you that this show does not believe in long term planning. I have a feeling though that one reason for this blip of a story is that the show has made several changes in several of it's other longer term plots (thanks to the falling ratings) and needed something to keep on screen while they rework things.
Anthony, you are such an optimist. That is a compliment....
The longest stories on this show are short arcs for some straights and Nukisodes. I actually see a trend to Nukicide (start and end something random in the same episode) as the show's new m.o.
The way that I think most people would keep something on the screen if you are planning something better and longer term would not be to make your audience laugh in shame. I can't conceive that a single person was not embarrassed to watch characters and their poisoned watch/bracelet/spray perfumes (matching set for mom & daughter)/and the red herring: Meg's pop rock. Maybe in rock form it only makes you faint.... No sweat, redness, clothes removal. Can you imagine when the actor who plays Chris Hughes got his script that day? OMF.
I do have to give a thumbs up again for the golf remote, Bob's sporty sunglasses, and the rapid menu-based insults. Tender lamb or leathered steak.... Margo is turning into one scary b@tch.
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This Is What He Said...
Jon Prescott posted this on his website:
Because of budget constraints on "As The World Turns" Mike Kasnoff will be leaving Oakdale at the end of August.
I'd like to express my gratitude to the entire cast, crew, and production team who have made this an irreplaceable experience. I have been privileged to be a part ATWT and this concludes an invaluable education. Most importantly, thank you to the fans who have been energetic supporters of both Mike Kasnoff and the show as a whole. I view my departure as a positive step forward. Stay tuned as I share my next creative challenge with you shortly.
Wishing you peace and power,
Jon Prescott
That Sucks
There are so many really worthless actors on the show, they couldn't fire one of them?
But I guess it makes sense, because he's just been treading water since Katie's wedding. Why would they bring a character back if they had no idea what to do with him.
Goutman and the head writer need to be fired immediately. Any one of us could turn that sinking ship around in no time (sorry for the mixed metaphors).
www.thebittersuite.blogspot.com
Good choice to let go! Next....
Talk about wasting money in these desperate times? Don't hire any characters not vital to any mid-term plans and keep cleaning house and not just with actor and the audience could benefit from writing and producing cost reductions....
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Mike? Boy, was THAT ever an
Ho Hum
Mike leaving will be like everything else concerning Mike in this incarnation: boring and pointless.
How anyone could have described either the actor or the character as a major player is beyond me.
You have to know the Dr. Decker back-story...
For a lot of this to make sense. And even though I was watching daily back then, even I have memory lapses, so forgive me.
Basically, lonely Susan went to a conference and met a doctor (Ric Decker) who lavished attention on her and acted...well, too good to be true. A patient at Oakdale Memorial mysteriously died shortly after she returned, but prior to his arrival in Oakdale--he showed up and wanted to get a job at the hospital. Bob hired him, and Chris (who was a new staffer) started dating/seeing Alison (working as a hospital volunteer). On an almost weekly basis some off-screen patient died, and suspicions fell on several people; Decker was less likely because the first patient died before his (supposed) arrival. Chris and Ali were suspicious of Decker and didn't like the way he was snowing Susan all the time. An intern on staff stumbled on the truth and Decker killed him, letting viewers know for sure he was going around injecting people with something. When Bob got too close to the truth (he FINALLY did a background check, I believe), Decker tried to kill HIM the same way, but Bob just went into a coma for the remainder of the storyline. When Decker conned Susan into getting married, there was this hilarious bit where Decker started seeing visions of Bob in the room, with Bob "threatening to tell all". Still, they married, and Decker decided he had to get rid of Alison and Chris. He later attacked Alison with the syringe and Chris saved the day. They carted Decker off to the booby hatch, and Bob later recovered.
About a year later, Barbara got committed to the same loony bin, and he tried that same "Love you to death" stuff on her, but she managed to elude his murderous streak. He tried to kill her one minute, declared his undying love the next.
So when Alison, Chris, and Barbara received poisoned jewelry shortly after his re-appearance, it was about as obvious as a bad hairpiece. They were all responsible for his downfall(s) in the past. I happen to like a bit of camp with my soap operas, as long as it doesn't become a Days-like cartoon, so I like it as a distraction from the immense sucking noise coming from the Paul/Meg story.
...as fabulolus and flaming as a toaster oven soaring across the night sky....:-)
Great recap..... Don't forget about another blond named Katie
I am glad that you made reference to the Bob part of the Decker background as it was hilarious as there were murders on a daily basis as Alison AND (Katie - let's not forget her) were nurses aids and the show had more stereo screams per episode by these two sirens than the sum of the new genre on snuff films trying to pass themselves as horror flicks.
Your recap reminded me of Barbara being in the nuthouse after they wrote her character into a wall, literally as I remember a great scene in which she dives out of a window of the HUGE courthouse set, somehow gets her hands on a pimped out El Camino vehicle, which she proceeds to use to drive THROUGH the courthouse. Cult!!!! Camp can work, but this is so lame. They should just re-use the Rose/Emily/Carly get sent to the spa dialogue/storyline if they want to make us laugh and even cry a little.
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