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Rate the Doctor Who series 4 finale

Without any spoilers*, how would you rate the Doctor Who series 4 finale? Good? Bad? OK? Gripping? Moving? Exciting?
Was the plot any good? Was it consistant? Did the finale utilize all the characters well, or did some of them seem like they've been shoehorned in?
Did it handle Jack and Ianto OK?

*Please don't post any spoilers. I haven't even seen the series 3 of Doctor Who, let alone the fourth series.



BTW, OK this is a bit off-topic... but I'm gonna ask anyway: Is Freema Agyeman really leaving Doctor Who?
I've only seen her in Torchwood so far and I love her already. DW series 3 is at the top of my wishlist for Christmas and I really wanna know how much Martha I've got to look forward to.

Psionycx's picture

Doctor Who finale: fanboy bang

Overall the episode was a fanboy dream in terms of bringing almost everything they could have possibly thrown at the episode.  Lots of high drama stuff.  The downside is that there are so many deus ex machina in play that it seems a little absurd if you think too hard about it.

That said, I thought it was only "Okay" from the standpoint of how they used the characters.  We had some shoe-horning.  Overuse of one already over-hyped character.  Jack was used fairly well.  But don't expect any Janto here because there wasn't any. Ianto (and Gwen) are mostly sidelined during the episode.

I liked it, but I didn't love it.

nastyg's picture

I think it`s pretty

I think it`s pretty good,I`ll give it about 7.5~8 in 10.
scorpio54's picture

Freema Agyeman

Freema is in all 13 episodes of season 3, and 5 episodes of season 4. She also voiced her character in the one-off Doctor Who cartoon episode 'The Infinite Quest', which occurs chronologically in the middle of S3, just prior to 'Human Nature'. Don't know if this has ever been shown on US TV, tho'.
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SERIES 4 AND FREEMA

I thought the series 4 finale was pretty good.  Not quite as good as series 2's "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday", but almost.  The "sad" ending didn't make me cry the way that Rose's departure did, but it was pretty emotional.  The rest of it was pretty "Wow!", but in the same way that the other series finales were "Wow!" It's pretty fun to watch, but it kind of gives you that been-there-done-that feeling.

As for Freema, as stated above, she did all of series 3, and appeared in five episodes of series 4.  She did those three Trochwood episodes, and was supposed to do the upcoming five-episode third series, but at the last minute she had signed on to do ITV's British edition of Law And Order, which records at the same time as Torchwood.  So it now seems unlikely we'll be seeing any more of Martha Jones in the near future, if ever again at all.

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Cheesy effects r us

afhickman

"It takes a village (to make Village People)"

I give it a 7, if only because of the two Doctors.  I loved it when they were both in the same frame, and you could tell the one with his back to the camera was a double.  It makes one long for the pre-CGI days.  But I didn't like the way the writers so cavalierly disposed of Donna.  I have been critical of her character--too much of a nag for my tastes--but for the writers to strip her of all her great memories of the Tardis (which is an anagram for Astrid) is cruel and unusual.  I know they can always find a way to bring her back (just as they can find a way to bring back Owen and Toshiko in "Torchwood"), but, in the meantime, her exile to suburban hell left a bad taste in my mouth.    

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Addendum

afhickman

"The mountain has wings."

According to IMDB, series writer Steven Moffat claims there may soon be a big-screen version of the program for the first time in over 40 years.  I'm assuming it would star David Tennant, if they can pull him away from Stratford, that is.

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The IMDB got it wrong.

The IMDB got it wrong. Here, clipped from the Outpost Gallifrey news page, is what he actually said: 

Also at the festival, incoming showrunner Steven Moffat said he had no objection to a Doctor Who film - but it would have to be "great and fantastic".

Giving cautious backing to the notion, he emphasised that if it did happen filming should not interfere with the series.

In the BBC News report, Moffat said: "I'm not against it. I don't think it's the most important thing for Doctor Who.

"A movie is one 90 minutes a year. So yes, so long as it never gets in the way of the show. If it gets in the way of the show that's appalling.

"It's been in the cinema, with Peter Cushing. It would be good to see it in the cinema so long as it's great and fantastic."


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