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ATWT -- Luke/Noah SPOILERS For The Week of Dec. 15th

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What is it with Luke Snyder and the terminally closeted?  He's either dating and/or related to them.    And on the Tuesday Dec. 16th episode, Luke's latest closet case, Brian Wheately, is in the mood for confessing and admits he's got a thing for his flaxen haired step-grandson.   Luke and Brian have a heart to heart and Brian convinces Luke that despite his yen for dudes half his age, he truly loves Lucinda and wants to stay married to her.  Luke and Brian make peace and Luke promises to keep mum about Brian's clumsy make out moves.  Though how long can this stay hidden?  Brian's feelings for Luke certainly aren't going to go away.  And how long can Brian keep avoiding the sex with Lucinda?  Meanwhile, Luke's mom Lily gets the word that her niece Jade Taylor is on the run from the law with an armed robbery rap hanging over her pretty little head.  So when, on the Thursday, Dec. 18th episode, Luke's favorite cousin and his BFF asks for his help with her legal troubles, will he give it?

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HenryZ's picture

If Brian needs more excuses

If Brian needs more excuses to stay celibate, he could borrow a few from Luke and Noah's romantic playbook. He's too sad about something, he wants the timing to be just right, he doesn't think it would be right to do it in someone else's house, he'd rather make horny conversation about sandwiches, etc.
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Antinoos's picture

Lol. You're so right.

Good idea HenryZ. Exactly what Brian should be doing. Lol.

By the way, the writers should know a little better about the appetites of elder people, grandmothers in this case. They are not so keen to demand sex as younger people. For them affection is more important than sex. And they can have their mind more excited about eating a tasty ice cream rather than having sex, if any at all. So for me, Lucinda being such a demanding kitty is not quite credible. Not imposible, but well...

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seanb's picture

If ever someone shouldn't be stereotyped....

....it's Lucinda Walsh.  The stereotype you present about older women is no doubt true for many of them, but like all stereotypes its limitations should be recognized.  Lucinda is one older woman who IS credible wanting and demanding sex.
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Antinoos's picture

Well, may be.

Seanb, may be you are right and a 74 (seventy four) could have her sexual eager appetite... well, somewhere there. May be you are a young guy or girl, but believe, usually the body doesn't demand as much as in young age. Have you talked to a -real- old people? I'm not one, but -in this one- I think I know it better. Sometimes the real stereotype is making elder people act as youngsters, in a society that punish behaving -or even being- naturally old. Nip Tuck in a call. I don’t mean to be cruel or sardonic, but at that age, even a hard hustle could break her hip, if she has osteoporosis, that is more often the norm -in some degree- than the exception.

The main point -for me- is that a woman that age definitively wouldn't wed based on sex. Unless -that is- that she is a little coocoo. 

Just my opinion. 

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Anthony D. Langford's picture

The Only Problem.....

Hey, who could blame Lucinda for wanting to have sex with her hubby.  Brian is a good looking fella and well put together for someone in his mid-50's (well, that's how old the actor is, I think the character of Brian is probably closer to 40).  The only problem I have with her wanting sex is that I can't imagine her doctors would approve of it so soon after her mascectomy.
Cat's picture

Yah think?

The only problem I have with her wanting sex is that I can't imagine her doctors would approve of it so soon after her mascectomy.

I was amazed - and grossed out - that they would even suggest sex for a woman just two weeks shy of a mastectomy. Even if the woman is the indomitable Lucinda.

As for Brian. There's something so tentative and apologetic in his moves on Luke it makes me wonder. I don't get a predator vibe. Could this be a case of gay virgin vs. gay virgin?

Anthony D. Langford's picture

Hmmm......

I never saw Brian as a predator.  The way it's playing out on screen it seems as if Brian hasn't had experience with men before and he doesn't go around deflowering teenage boys.  I mean, if he'd had a string of young guys in his wake, he'd be a little smoother in his seduction techniques.  I'd also think he'd not bring it so close to home and not chase after his step-grandson.  The actor who plays Brian said he's playing it as if Brian is just now realizing is attraction to men so that's probably why he seems so awkward and clumsy.  I'm looking forward to Tuesday's show because I want to see how this conversation between Luke and Brian plays out and how Brian explains himself.
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Cat's picture

Brian's a complicated guy

Well, truth be told, I never saw him as a predator either. I guess my comment was colored by my initial reaction to this whole new Brian SL. Which was - they really can't be going there, can they? And if they are, they'll screw it up and play it in the broadest, most stereotypical strokes. Which is to say, the straight world's perception that older man/much younger guy has to be de facto predatory. I mean, can we really trust ATWT to approach this kind of subject with nuance? So this tentative, kind of sweet Brian caught me off guard. Laurence Lau's comments - which I wasn't aware of - bring it to a whole other, very interesting level. Interesting too, is that the fan boards aren't as squeamish about the idea of a Luke/Brian relationship as I'd supposed they would be. What a delicious complication this pairing would make. Oh, ham-fisted ATWT! Get it right for once!
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Janet's picture

Good grief...

...if Brian's character is suppose to be 40 then he really has missed all those boats!! His wife is 40 years older than him and his crush is 20 years younger! That's hysterically funny in a sick sort of way. But I agree, Lucinda would easily want to have sex with her young handsome and apparently devoted husband. Who wouldn't? 

I just flashed to a possible story line where Brian and Luke get together, and then Brian is in the exact same situation as Lucinda. Lusting for his young spouse while Luke is bored and interested in his old boyfriend or a new boy next door. It would be the worst kind of poetic justice. 

 

 

I say we take the warning labels off everything and let nature take it's course.

Liz T's picture

gay?

i wonder if brian will confess if he's gay as well. (and no, just because you have a thing for someone, that doesnt automatically make you straight or gay)

...and if he is gay, i really feel bad for the viewers, this being ATWT, the show will probably have another coming out story from a man who's been holding it in, yadda yadda.....he and luke will bond/possibly hook up (ew), yadda yadda.....

 

BORING

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Insideguy's picture

Give me a F***ing break

This is the kind of crap ATWT writers got nominated for by the Writers Guild. Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for ATWT; no shark necessary.

That's all I am saying... 

INSIDEGUY

Hideaki's picture

ATWT

Wow. I think Luke and Brian would be kinda cute together after he divorces Lucinda. Didn't know she had a masectomy, but it kinda makes since with the cancer and all. I hope this storyline gets better over time
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Nate's picture

Welcome back Jade!

I am so glad Jade is back, even if it's a new actress. I look forward to her getting up in everyone's business, and classic "Jade hiding behind a bush" scenes. Bring it!!
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nordic balance's picture

Um, Lesbian Calls BullPucky!

Not to be indelicate but there's lots of sex Brian and Lucinda could be having (well into her 90s I might add) that would in no way endanger her stiches, hip or anything else.  It's not like we have to see it on the tv screen.

Either Brian just doesn't wanna (which may very well be the case given the givens) or he's got no moves in the bedroom.   Wonder what former Mrs. Wheatley would have to say?

In general folks in the US seem to have some very antiquated ideas about female sexual desire (ahem, sorry guys) older sexual desire and who should get to have sex with whom.

If single older folks weren't doing it big time, there wouldn't be nearly as much issues with STDs and such in retirement communities as there are.

Far as I'm concerned, you stop having sex when you die (which should be even more true on a Soap).  

You wanna have a go with someone 20 years older or younger?  Long as everyone is of legal age, I say, HAVE AT IT. See what happens. Take the plunge.  Coule be lovely.

Straight men have been depicted as taking up with pretty young things since the history of tv/fim with narry a sideward glance. 

It's only when women or gay men get intergenerational with their dating that everyone gets their knickers in a knot over propriety and appearances.

But not Luke and Brian. NEVER Luke and Brian. Not Ever.

Stone me, cuss me, call me naive but there is just nothing right about that!

Love Laurence Lau, love him and Van acting together, but he'd better keep his married, almost-kinda-sorta-legally grandpaws off of Luke.

I want NUKE back together.  Period.

It's just a waste of poor Jake whom I adore.  This is only his second real regular acting.  He should get to be more integrated into the show and get some real dialogue and storylines to tackle. He shoud get some scenes with other folks (I mean they have to ship Maddie into town just so he has someone to talk to that isn't a Snyder)

Perhaps if Luke and Noah could get to have some scenes in a room together, alone, that didn't involve accusations and alcohol, the writers of ATWT might actually be able to bring them back together with some simblance of continuity and sense.

Whatever the writers do, however they make it happen though, Back Together NUKE Should Go.

And I am Unanimous in That! 

 P.S. And out of tremendous respect for my gay breathern and the sanctity of all that is A.E. (and i'm not making fun even a little bit) I will vow to never, ever  bring up the wherefores and hows of sex with women ever again on this site.  ;)  I have plenty of other lezzie virtual and actual places for that kind of talk.

"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." (Dorothy Parker)

syrus's picture

I am none too pleased that

I am none too pleased that the writers de-SORASED Jade. Lily refers to her as being 19 in an upcoming episode. Jade is supposed to be in her early '20s. They better bring back Elena Goode stat!
ceares's picture

Awesome!

Frankly, I think Luke and Brian as a couple either in the forbidden love or the sleazy affair sense would rock. It would be very much the typical soap obstacle to the OTP couple of Nuke. Couples typically break up and get involved with other people to add to the complications and I'd love to see them treat Nuke the same way.  I was afraid they'd never go there, but having it be Brian instead of some random hot guy, makes it deliciously...well soapy.

As for the almost incest thing, well let's not forget that Luke's father is his mother's uncle. Among the many, many other convoluted familial relationships in their family. Almost incest is one of the most prevalent aspects of soap life

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Hideaki's picture

Lily and Hilden aren't

Lily and Hilden aren't related biologically though
fast.cars's picture

Yes!

I hoped Brian would hook up with Luke well before the first kiss.  I'm sooo happy that the writers made Brian more sympatheic and that Laurence (Larry?) Lau is such a good actor to pull off some of that material.  That means that the hook up will happen soon (or as soon as can be on a soap schedule).

I've come to terms with Brian and Luke being together only long enough for Lucinda to catch them in bed together, but if that's all I'll get I'll take it.  Luke can work it out with Noah later.